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 Either way, a liar is a liar. If you'd like me to go more in depth with sources regarding what he's said in the past and how his organization operates, I'd be happy to provide it.

 

So you provide this:rofl:

 

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

Since I'm not really good at shorthand, and going into greater depth would probably be beyond most cellphone attention spans: a short summary:

A man goes to a coffee shop, and there waiting for him is an envelope with his name on it every day.

He looks at the contents, but doesn't care how he obtained them, where they might have come from, or if they are real.

He publishes them for all to see and becomes famous.

When asked who gave him these documents, he says he doesn't know. In fact he says he likes not knowing, that way it protects himself and whomever gives him these envelopes every day. Otherwise things could get very dangerous for him really quick. It's all by some genius design, supposedly.

He repeats this mantra many times. Sometimes saying he will never comment as to whom the source is - either in positive or negative terms.

He says that no one should trust anyone, least of all him at any time.

Suddenly he starts being a little too tactical. Starts doing things a little out of character. He's prone to being paranoid in this game you know.

He starts acknowledging what some sources are and what some aren't, contrary to his previous promises that before he did not know any sources, so as to protect the sources and himself.

 

So, at this point we come full circle. At what point did the coffee shop man lie?

Those who demand proof from a liar and those who traffic in illegal activity are asking for the truth from professional lairs, the kind of which you will never get a straight up answer for. In espionage, if someone tries to make it look like subject A is the cause, it may very well be subject B, subject C, all of the above, or actually subject A all along. The goal is confusion afterall. Therefore I do not choose to believe in what Assange says because he is a liar. He was either lying before, or he was lying now.

 

Thanks for the cute little made up story:rofl:  Proof? I will give you proof!!!! Here let me make some #### up:ot2:

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4 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Not made up. An example analogy based on real things that Assange has stated himself, which proves at some point and time he has been either: lying all along, lying in the beginning, lying now, or all three. Do you deny the things he has stated about his organization and sources in the past? Or are you only going to believe in him today because it fits your narrative? I'm sorry it upsets you, and you can continue to believe as you wish.

Upset? You must have me confused with someone else. Your stories are cracking me up.

 

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3 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Link us up with proof he isn't lying, Ms. Conway saying Assange is saying it was not the Russians is mighty thin soup and a little lacking in substance and gravitas for most.

 

Trouble is, that soup has about the same viscosity as the soup you are lapping up about the Russians actually doing anything that influenced the election.  Believing the DNC was hacked by the Russians fits your expectations of the world around you, so it's cool to assume it to be true.  The same way that some here like to expound on how there is no voter fraud, and choose to believe it cannot happen in America.  Does it happen?  Sure it does.  Does it make a difference in any elections?  Probably not.  Is it wrong?  Yup.  Wait a minute.  Are we talking about voter fraud or Russians hacking us?

 

Do they spy on us?  Well DUH.  Perhaps you heard of the Cold War?  KGB?  They've been doing it since long before any of us were alive.  Pssssttttt.... America does it TOO!  To every single nation out there.  And don't I seem to recall where Obama put his fingers into some foreign elections in the past 8 years?  Or do we just not talk about that?

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2 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Not made up. An example analogy based on real things that Assange has stated himself, which proves at some point and time he has been either: lying all along, lying in the beginning, lying now, or all three. Do you deny the things he has stated about his organization and sources in the past? Or are you only going to believe in him today because it fits your narrative? I'm sorry it upsets you, and you can continue to believe as you wish.

So you got nothing. Got it 

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11 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So you got nothing. Got it 

No no no….she had a story involving a coffee shop. It was almost written in the washington post…. or a bathroom wall…..or something.

 

Definitely something:rofl:

 

 

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10 minutes ago, eieio said:

No no no….she had a story involving a coffee shop. It was almost written in the washington post…. or a bathroom wall…..or something.

 

Definitely something:rofl:

 

 

A man walked into a coffee shop. He like Honest Abe never told a lie. 

 

There is your proof 

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So you got nothing. Got it 

Didn't see you offering any proof. So about Assange's own words in the past vs what he's saying now. Care to answer when his lies began?

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1 hour ago, IDGAF said:

Trouble is, that soup has about the same viscosity as the soup you are lapping up about the Russians actually doing anything that influenced the election.  Believing the DNC was hacked by the Russians fits your expectations of the world around you, so it's cool to assume it to be true.  The same way that some here like to expound on how there is no voter fraud, and choose to believe it cannot happen in America.  Does it happen?  Sure it does.  Does it make a difference in any elections?  Probably not.  Is it wrong?  Yup.  Wait a minute.  Are we talking about voter fraud or Russians hacking us?

 

Do they spy on us?  Well DUH.  Perhaps you heard of the Cold War?  KGB?  They've been doing it since long before any of us were alive.  Pssssttttt.... America does it TOO!  To every single nation out there.  And don't I seem to recall where Obama put his fingers into some foreign elections in the past 8 years?  Or do we just not talk about that?

None of that was being discussed, no. Thanks for creatively filling in the blanks with snarky assumptions of what I think and believe, and adding in conclusions to your little fantasy. Kudos!

 

 

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So you got nothing. Got it 

Actually...

 

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29 minutes ago, ready4ONE said:

None of that was being discussed, no. Thanks for creatively filling in the blanks with snarky assumptions of what I think and believe, and adding in conclusions to your little fantasy. Kudos!

 

 

 

Sorry, didn't mean to sound snarky.  So as I don't assume anything incorrectly... do you believe the Russians influenced the election of Trump?

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Sorry, didn't mean to sound snarky.  So as I don't assume anything incorrectly... do you believe the Russians influenced the election of Trump?

I don't know. It does sound plausible but I'm sure not taking Assange's word via Trump's spokesperson that they didn't. If I were Putin I could certainly understand the allure of Trump for Russia's best interest. A little flattery and Trump will do whatever they want.

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18 minutes ago, ready4ONE said:

I don't know. It does sound plausible but I'm sure not taking Assange's word via Trump's spokesperson that they didn't. If I were Putin I could certainly understand the allure of Trump for Russia's best interest. A little flattery and Trump will do whatever they want.

Fair enough.  We wait and see.  But just as you aren't ready to just take Assange's word, neither am I ready to trust that the three-letter organizations that Obama is still in charge of are telling the public the whole truth.  I doubt we'll EVER know the truth, in fact.

 

I also think (or maybe it's hope?) that Trump isn't quite so ready to do Putin's bidding.  OTWT

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Assange said a 14 year old could have hacked Podesta.  Maybe he is right.  I am not a hacker, and most of these amateur or pro hackers live in the shadows so it is possible.  The real story is that like who shot JFK, there will be years and years of conspiracy stories out there with no way to prove anything.

 

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