Aug. 2016: Chicago's Bloodiest Month in Two Decades

[lostinblue 1,989]

Aug. 2016: Chicago's Bloodiest Month in Two Decades

Chicago saw its bloodiest month in two decades this August, after police recorded a staggering 90 murders, 384 shootings and 472 total shooting victims.

So far this year, police in the Windy City have logged at least 468 murders and 2,848 shooting victims. This works out to nearly 12 shooting victims, on average, every single day and 59 murders every month.

Chicago is on pace for its highest overall murder count since at least 2008, when 513 were recorded in the entire year. Overall annual murders in Chicago hit a peak of 940 in 1992, according to police statistics, and last topped 600 in 2003.

Police have pointed the blame at gang members, many of whom have rap sheets and have committed repeat offenses using illegal guns.

Nearly 40 percent of suspects arrested for homicide in 2015 had prior arrests for gun crimes, according to a study by the University of Chicago cited by police.

Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said earlier last month that about 1,400 people -- many of them affiliated with gangs -- are driving 85 percent of the city's gun violence.

"The historical cycle of violence we have seen in some communities must come to an end," said CPD Superintendent Eddie Johnson. "Repeat gun offenders who drive the violence on our streets should not be there in the first place and it is time to changes the laws to ensure these violent offenders are held accountable for their crimes."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aug-2016-chicagos-bloodiest-month-decades/story?id=41792681

Here is their solution.....Illinois Rep: Put Serial Numbers on Bullets to Fight Chicago Gun Violence

According to Fox 32, Harper said, “We just want to know how the guns and the bullets are getting into the hands of our youth and causing senseless harm and murder on our streets.” Her measure would require a unique number on all bullet casings and the base of the bullet itself, so police could theoretically run numbers of recovered bullets/casings to figure out where the ammunition was sold. Officers would then go to the retailer to find out who purchased the ammunition

It is worth noting that a similar system was in place in Maryland for five years but was abandoned after $15 million was spent and no crimes solved

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/01/illinois-rep-pushes-serial-numbers-bullets-fight-chicago-gun-violence/

How about you keep these folks that terrorize Chicago with guns locked up in the first place rather than blaming legal gun owners...

[Jacque67 7,328]

Who is the "you" you refer to? Trump?

For years, Mexican politicians have said lax US gun laws help to arm the countrys drug cartels.

At a press conference with Donald Trump on Wednesday in Mexico City, President Enrique Peña Nieto said: Every year, thousands of weapons and millions of US dollars in cash enter illegally into Mexico from the north, strengthening the cartels and other criminal organizations that create violence in Mexico.

The National Rifle Association (NRA), one of Trumps key conservative backers, has long rejected such claims, arguing that guns sold by American dealers and smuggled across the border are not a major driver of crime in Mexico.

On Wednesday, however, in a largely conciliatory speech in Mexico City that preceded a more aggressive address on immigration at home in Arizona, Trump did not question Peña Nietos comment about guns. Instead, the Republican presidential candidate echoed the Mexican presidents longtime talking points.

No one wins in either country when human smugglers and drug traffickers prey on innocent people, when cartels commit acts of violence, when illegal weapons and cash flow from the United States into Mexico, Trump said.

'Like a joke gone bad': Trump faces wide range of criticism for 'assassination' line

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The NRA did not immediately comment. The organization has been one of Trumps most consistent supporters, endorsing him for president in May and investing in major anti-Hillary Clinton television ad campaigns.

Before the NRAs endorsement, at its annual meeting in Louisville, Kentucky, some of the groups members said they questioned whether Trumps support for gun rights was genuine, and said they were concerned he might compromise on the issue if it proved politically expedient. Several prominent gun rights advocates, including some closely allied to the NRA, have spoken out against Trump.

(The Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/01/donald-trump-mexico-visit-guns-drug-cartels-nra

[smilesammich 10,727]

Officers would then go to the retailer to find out who purchased the ammunition

you don't think this would be beneficial in figuring out just who to charge with the crime, lib?

[Teddy B 17,251]

All these guns gotta be coming from somewhere and the majority of them sure as heck aren't stolen.

[lostinblue 1,989]

All these guns gotta be coming from somewhere and the majority of them sure as heck aren't stolen.

A vast majority are stolen ted

[smilesammich 10,727]

A vast majority are stolen ted

you might be interested in this episode of black market. or not. probably not.

http://www.vice.com/read/gun-running-black-market-cyberwar-spyware-tonight-on-viceland

[lostinblue 1,989]

you don't think this would be beneficial in figuring out just who to charge with the crime, lib?

It is worth noting that a similar system was in place in Maryland for five years but was abandoned after $15 million was spent and no crimes solved

every gun sold had to be test fired and an empty shell sent to the state for recording for ballistics ....After collecting all that information for 15 million Dollars ... not one crime was solved with it. Not going to do a thing.. I can make hundreds of rounds in my cellar in a very short period of time ... casting my own bullets .. So can a terrorist from the hood in Chicago ... Not will solve a thing.

[smilesammich 10,727]

It is worth noting that a similar system was in place in Maryland for five years but was abandoned after $15 million was spent and no crimes solved

every gun sold had to be test fired and an empty shell sent to the state for recording for ballistics ....After collecting all that information for 15 million Dollars ... not one crime was solved with it. Not going to do a thing.. I can make hundreds of rounds in my cellar in a very short period of time ... casting my own bullets .. So can a terrorist from the hood in Chicago ... Not will solve a thing.

hmm. i wonder how many bullets are manufactured by DIYers in chicago. probably not too many. casting bullets is a bit labor intensive when you can simply buy them. everywhere.

[lostinblue 1,989]

you might be interested in this episode of black market. or not. probably not.

http://www.vice.com/read/gun-running-black-market-cyberwar-spyware-tonight-on-viceland

Judge Rudolph Randa

By Nicholas Erickson of the Journal Sentinel

Aug. 19, 2015 0

In giving probation with no jail time to a Milwaukee man charged with 55 counts of buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license,

http://archive.jsonline.com/news/crime/milwaukee-man-to-be-sentenced-on-gun-fraud-charge-b99560011z1-322283481.html:

This person should be serving 30 -40 years in prison .. not getting probation ... If someone is killed with that gun ....life in prison . Laws are on the books and judges are soft on crime ...

[smilesammich 10,727]

Judge Rudolph Randa

By Nicholas Erickson of the Journal Sentinel

Aug. 19, 2015 0

In giving probation with no jail time to a Milwaukee man charged with 55 counts of buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license,

http://archive.jsonline.com/news/crime/milwaukee-man-to-be-sentenced-on-gun-fraud-charge-b99560011z1-322283481.html:

This person should be serving 30 -40 years in prison .. not getting probation ... If someone is killed with that gun ....life in prison . Laws are on the books and judges are soft on crime ...

this particular article doesn't support your position very well. small potatoes. in reading about this case i think the judge made a good call.

[lostinblue 1,989]

this particular article doesn't support your position very well. small potatoes. in reading about this case i think the judge made a good call.

But Mills, Randa said, did not come across as a typical defendant because of his good behavior since the charges and his life ambitions, which include becoming a rap musician. While on bail, Mills twice traveled to Los Angeles to work on a film and to pursue his musical aspirations.

Randa said he had seen plenty of people facing similar charges who bought firearms for friends and then took no responsibility for their actions. Mills, he said, has accepted responsibility.

So who were his rap friends ?

He was a gun runner filled out false statements on a federal form ... any of the guns could have caused the death of a child .

buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license, Then what is your definition of a gun runner ?... So saying after he got caught .. I did wrong please let me go .. He is good to move about the country.

He should be doing years in prison ...He lied what ......55 counts of buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license... over 2 years ... He should be doing 50 years in prison at least... or more .

[smilesammich 10,727]

But Mills, Randa said, did not come across as a typical defendant because of his good behavior since the charges and his life ambitions, which include becoming a rap musician. While on bail, Mills twice traveled to Los Angeles to work on a film and to pursue his musical aspirations.

Randa said he had seen plenty of people facing similar charges who bought firearms for friends and then took no responsibility for their actions. Mills, he said, has accepted responsibility.

So who were his rap friends ?

He was a gun runner filled out false statements on a federal form ... any of the guns could have caused the death of a child .

buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license, Then what is your definition of a gun runner ?... So saying after he got caught .. I did wrong please let me go .. He is good to move about the country.

He should be doing years in prison ...He lied what ......55 counts of buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license... over 2 years ... He should be doing 50 years in prison at least... or more .

rap friends? please tell me what that has to do anything. are people only to pursue their artistic goals if they're of a musical style you prefer or rather, respect? come on.

that's mighty draconian of you..50 years in prison for going to gander mountain and the like and purchasing guns to sell to others isn't really what i think of when considering 'gun running'. like i said, small potatoes and the judge believed that he knew he'd made a mistake and also (from your own quote above) "Randa said he had seen plenty of people facing similar charges who bought firearms for friends and then took no responsibility for their actions. Mills, he said, has accepted responsibility."

[lostinblue 1,989]

rap friends? please tell me what that has to do anything. are people only to pursue their artistic goals if they're of a musical style you prefer or rather, respect? come on.

that's mighty draconian of you..50 years in prison for going to gander mountain and the like and purchasing guns to sell to others isn't really what i think of when considering 'gun running'. like i said, small potatoes and the judge believed that he knew he'd made a mistake and also (from your own quote above) "Randa said he had seen plenty of people facing similar charges who bought firearms for friends and then took no responsibility for their actions. Mills, he said, has accepted responsibility."

Moving that amount of guns is not being a gun runner ...Right .

[smilesammich 10,727]

Moving that amount of guns is not being a gun runner ...Right .

i'm sure you can find examples of non rap artists purchasing guns and selling them without a license. but, just because you can do something doesn't mean you will.

[Merle 458]

hmm. i wonder how many bullets are manufactured by DIYers in chicago. probably not too many. casting bullets is a bit labor intensive when you can simply buy them. everywhere.

But it can be done, and a lot easier than you think. Reloaders have been doing it for decades. It's a cheap way to make target ammunition for high volume target shooting. The Viiet Cong were able to manufacture weapons underground in tunnels during wartime conditions. Im pretty sure the gangbangers in Chicago could figure out how to make ammunition if they had to. A simple youtube search yields tons of how to videos unbolt casting, reloading, etc.