Visa requirements? (merged)

[Throwaway3882828 0]

Hello, I'm only 20 years old and my fiance is only 21. He lives with his parents to save rent and he's making around $18,000 a year I think. Do we have a chance on being approved? I'm from the Philippines so cosponsors aren't allowed I think.. He's from Wisconsin BTW..

[aleful 1,905]

hi

he needs a joint sponsor, and as I have read, it is allowed

[Hank_ 9,174]

Hello, I'm only 20 years old and my fiance is only 21. He lives with his parents to save rent and he's making around $18,000 a year I think. Do we have a chance on being approved? I'm from the Philippines so cosponsors aren't allowed I think.. He's from Wisconsin BTW..

USEM does accept co-sponsors with the K-1 visa, on a case by case basis. No guarantees like with an immigrant visa but I know of a number of couples that were approved with a K-1 visa and a co-sponsor

[Kastrs 723]

But I believe they are required to accept cosponsors for a CR1

[Greenbaum 12,259]

Throwaway3882828, on 07 Jan 2016 - 8:53 PM, said:

Hello, I'm only 20 years old and my fiance is only 21. He lives with his parents to save rent and he's making around $18,000 a year I think. Do we have a chance on being approved? I'm from the Philippines so cosponsors aren't allowed I think.. He's from Wisconsin BTW..

His salary is over the poverty level for the two of you so you will not need a co-sponsor. Yes, USEM does except cosponsors but like Hank says, it's not easy but some have been approved. BTW, say hi to the "cheese head" from someone who grew up in the next state over, Minnesota where we say Yah Sure.... a lot.

Kastrs, on 07 Jan 2016 - 9:04 PM, said:

But I believe they are required to accept cosponsors for a CR1

Yes. The Embassy in the Philippines must and does except co-sponsor for a CR-1.

[toddriegel 2]

For 2 people the poverty guideline is $19912.00. That amount has to be 125% over the poverty guideline. You multiply the two together (19912X1.25)= $24890. He needs to produce an income of 24890. If there's children involved its going to be even higher. I don't know if co-sponsors are allowed for a k-1 visa. He will need to check. Hopefully his parents will do it.

You can find the poverty guidelines on the uscis website and double check yourself. Good luck.

[Tahoma 2,292]

For 2 people the poverty guideline is $19912.00. That amount has to be 125% over the poverty guideline. You multiply the two together (19912X1.25)= $24890. He needs to produce an income of 24890. If there's children involved its going to be even higher. I don't know if co-sponsors are allowed for a k-1 visa. He will need to check. Hopefully his parents will do it.

You can find the poverty guidelines on the uscis website and double check yourself. Good luck.

125% of the poverty guideline in the lower 48 states is $19,912 for a household of two.

Link: http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864p.pdf

[Tahoma 2,292]

Hello, I'm only 20 years old and my fiance is only 21. He lives with his parents to save rent and he's making around $18,000 a year I think. Do we have a chance on being approved? I'm from the Philippines so cosponsors aren't allowed I think.. He's from Wisconsin BTW..

Similar topic: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/581227-is-there-really-a-0-chance-to-be-approved-for-k1-using-a-co-sponsor-in-philippines/#entry7959455

[Greenbaum 12,259]

toddriegel, on 07 Jan 2016 - 9:47 PM, said:

For 2 people the poverty guideline is $19912.00. That amount has to be 125% over the poverty guideline. You multiply the two together (19912X1.25)= $24890. He needs to produce an income of 24890. If there's children involved its going to be even higher. I don't know if co-sponsors are allowed for a k-1 visa. He will need to check. Hopefully his parents will do it.

You can find the poverty guidelines on the uscis website and double check yourself. Good luck.

Wrong

Do the Same Income Requirements Apply to Form I-134 as Apply to Form I-864?

No. The 125 percent of the federal poverty guideline minimum income requirement, the most recent year's tax return, and other requirements only apply when Form I-864 is needed. Applicants presenting Form I-134 will need to show that their U.S. sponsor's income is 100 percent of the federal poverty guideline.

From http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/types/family/fiance-k-1.html

[toddriegel 2]

Wrong

Do the Same Income Requirements Apply to Form I-134 as Apply to Form I-864?

No. The 125 percent of the federal poverty guideline minimum income requirement, the most recent year's tax return, and other requirements only apply when Form I-864 is needed. Applicants presenting Form I-134 will need to show that their U.S. sponsor's income is 100 percent of the federal poverty guideline.

From http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/types/family/fiance-k-1.html

NO. I'M NOT. LEARN TO DO SIMPLE MATH. MORE THAN ONE PERSON HAS THE SAME FIGURES. WHEN I SENT MY APPLICATION IN, I EVEN DOUBLE CHECKED WITH THE NVC AND KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO HELP THE PERSON POSTING A QUESTION. GOT IT?

[Greenbaum 12,259]

toddriegel, on 08 Jan 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:

Greenbaum, on 08 Jan 2016 - 08:20 AM, said:

Wrong

Do the Same Income Requirements Apply to Form I-134 as Apply to Form I-864?

No. The 125 percent of the federal poverty guideline minimum income requirement, the most recent year's tax return, and other requirements only apply when Form I-864 is needed. Applicants presenting Form I-134 will need to show that their U.S. sponsor's income is 100 percent of the federal poverty guideline.

From http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/types/family/fiance-k-1.html

NO. I'M NOT. LEARN TO DO SIMPLE MATH. MORE THAN ONE PERSON HAS THE SAME FIGURES. WHEN I SENT MY APPLICATION IN, I EVEN DOUBLE CHECKED WITH THE NVC AND KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO HELP THE PERSON POSTING A QUESTION. GOT IT?

The income level requirement for a I-134 is 100%

The income level requirement for an I-864 Is 125%.

And you can verify MY INFROMATION with a direct quote from http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/types/family/fiance-k-1.html. Yours right now is hearsay, until such time you can produce a link to where anyone can verify what you say is fact. Until then I don't "Got it!!"

[Hank_ 9,174]

And the income level for USEM is 125% even if you are using the I-134

[Hank_ 9,174]

There is a form, it is the government after all. I-864P , dollar amounts are clearly stated there.

http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864p.pdf

And USEM requires 125% even with the I-134

[sevenrider860 9]

Wrong

Do the Same Income Requirements Apply to Form I-134 as Apply to Form I-864?

No. The 125 percent of the federal poverty guideline minimum income requirement, the most recent year's tax return, and other requirements only apply when Form I-864 is needed. Applicants presenting Form I-134 will need to show that their U.S. sponsor's income is 100 percent of the federal poverty guideline.

From http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/immigrate/types/family/fiance-k-1.html

NO. I'M NOT. LEARN TO DO SIMPLE MATH. MORE THAN ONE PERSON HAS THE SAME FIGURES. WHEN I SENT MY APPLICATION IN, I EVEN DOUBLE CHECKED WITH THE NVC AND KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO HELP THE PERSON POSTING A QUESTION. GOT IT?

Your math is correct - 125% of $19,912 is $24,890. I believe it is how you applied that math for this situation that is incorrect. The the 2015 HHS Poverty Guideline for a household size of 2 is $15,930. 125% of that value is $19,912.

For a fiancé visa, If a Form I-134 is requested by the consular officer during the interview, you need to show your income is 100 percent of the federal poverty guideline. This is clearly documented by the State Department. To be honest, a number of people (and my experience also) have not been asked to show evidence of income during the interview for the Fiance visa. I have heard that if you are asked for form I-134 you need to show the 125% value which is $19,912. However unless things have changed again, the USEM was not asking for these forms to be submitted.

After you and your fiancé are married and you apply for Adjustment of Status, you need to submit form Form I-864 and then you need to show that your income is 125% of the HHS Poverty Guideline...which is $19,912. The government tried to make it easy for anybody that may be math challenged and included the 125% value on the form I-864P itself.

Edited January 8, 2016 by sevenrider860

[Hank_ 9,174]

Your math is correct - 125% of $19,912 is $24,890. I believe it is how you applied that math for this situation that is incorrect. The the 2015 HHS Poverty Guideline for a household size of 2 is $15,930. 125% of that value is $19,912.

For a fiancé visa, If a Form I-134 is requested by the consular officer during the interview, you need to show your income is 100 percent of the federal poverty guideline. This is clearly documented by the State Department. To be honest, a number of people (and my experience also) have not been asked to show evidence of income during the interview for the Fiance visa. I have heard that if you are asked for form I-134 you need to show the 125% value which is $19,912. However unless things have changed again, the USEM was not asking for these forms to be submitted.

After you and your fiancé are married and you apply for Adjustment of Status, you need to submit form Form I-864 and then you need to show that your income is 125% of the HHS Poverty Guideline...which is $19,912. The government tried to make it easy for anybody that may be math challenged and included the 125% value on the form I-864P itself.

Your math is good but your thinking is off the reservation. $19,912 IS the 125% amount for two people READ the I-864P!!

http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-864p.pdf