Why Are You Selling Out African-Americans?

[JohnR! 5,495]

How specifically?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Illegals can't take jobs from black people that black people don't have. ... They don't have any jobs because the illegals are doing that work .

Nearly Half Of Detroit's Adults Are Functionally Illiterate, Report Finds

If you are functionally illiterate your ability to find a job is very slim . Now you bring in a horde of illegals that function at that same level your chances of finding work have not improved .

Or it could be that the Detroit school system is terrible and all the industry moved out.

How many jobs are there in Detroit these days?

[Darnell 8,478]

This has less to do with supporting AAs and more to do with supporting the Trump agenda. Illegals can't take jobs from black people that black people don't have. When Bush's Great Depression first came who was the first group to be hit by high un-employment rates? A lot of black people will not support trying to "get rid of" or deport illegals because we understand what it feels like to be a hated class.

sorry, although it's your opinion, I'll posit that if you keep that opinion,

then no upward mobility will exist for these groups of black Americans across the usa,

as

the bottom remains gone.

You can't get into the upwardly mobile queue when the bottom, the last rung, is removed. I ask that you reformulate your opinion during the new semester, based on your further research.

Thanks so much, and Thanks in advance !

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

No she's right. Illegals can't take jobs from black people in detroit if those jobs don't exist to begin with.

Illegals aren't the problem, the collapse of industry and the city economy is.

[Expat1 971]

Could you summarize that with a couple of short powerpoint slides?

[Darnell 8,478]

No she's right. Illegals can't take jobs from black people in detroit if those jobs don't exist to begin with.

Illegals aren't the problem, the collapse of industry and the city economy is.

Detroit is a singularity, and it's disengenuous (sp?) to use it as an example. It's an outlier (sp?) and you knew that already. Shift a bit, or more, or totally elsewhere, as

to include Detroit in the problem-scope, is specious and disengenuous (sp?) .

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The OP brought up Detroit...

He also brought failings in the education system. That has nothing to do with I legal immigration either.

If you have a specific example you want to discuss, feel free to bring it up.

Edited August 24, 2015 by Venkman

[lostinblue 1,989]

Or it could be that the Detroit school system is terrible and all the industry moved out.

How many jobs are there in Detroit these days?

Per pupil spending in Detroit as of 2008 was $13,000, which is higher than some people pay for private schooling in other parts of the country

Must be liberals running the school system

[Boiler 43,388]

Why would you replace illegals with African Americans if you are an Employer?

[Darnell 8,478]

The OP is about Detroit...

hahahaahaha... wrong...

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Or it could be that the Detroit school system is terrible and all the industry moved out.

How many jobs are there in Detroit these days?

Hello and thank you.

It is a known fact that schools in low socioeconomic areas do not have the same resources as schools in well off neighborhoods. While the public schools in well off neighborhoods are using macbooks in their computer labs the poor kids are rocking windows 98.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

With a population that is 83 percent African American, Detroit is blacker than any big city in America.Mar 10, 2014

Detroit Doesn't Need Hipsters To Survive, It Needs Black ...

www.huffingtonpost.com/.../saving-detroit-thomas-sug...

The Huffington Post

Nearly Half Of Detroit's Adults Are Functionally Illiterate, Report Finds

Detroit's population fell by 25 percent in the last decade. And of those that stuck around, nearly half of them are functionally illiterate, a new report finds.

According to estimates by The National Institute for Literacy, roughly 47 percent of adults in Detroit, Michigan -- 200,000 total -- are "functionally illiterate," meaning they have trouble with reading, speaking, writing and computational skills. Even more surprisingly, the Detroit Regional Workforce finds half of that illiterate population has obtained a high school degree.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/07/detroit-illiteracy-nearly-half-education_n_858307.html

Granting amnesty to illegal immigrants will only further harm African-American workers. Not only will the low-skilled labor market continue to experience a surplus of workers, making it difficult for African-Americans to find job opportunities, but African-Americans will be deprived of one of their few advantages in this market.

50.9 percent of native-born blacks had not continued their education beyond high school.6 The same report found that 75.5 percent of foreign-born Hispanics had not been educated beyond high school, although it does not disaggregate foreign-born Hispanics who are legal immigrants from those who are illegal immigrants.7 However, Professor Briggs estimated that illegal immigrants or former illegal immigrants who received amnesty constitute a third to over a half of the total foreign-born population.8 Foreign-born Hispanics who are in the United States illegally are disproportionately male.9 African-Americans who have not pursued education beyond high school are also disproportionately male.10 These poor educational attainment levels usually relegate both African-American men and illegal immigrant men to the same low-skilled labor market, where they must compete against each other for work.11

The folks that cry we need jobs after they burn down al the businesses in the riots are the same folks that will be affected by illegal immigration . The same folks that say we need open borders and it is impossible to send an illegal back to their home country.

have made this point on here for years and beenI called racist for it.

Actually, you've been called a racist for a myriad of reasons, not for being concerned about immigration. A few examples:

Your constant referring to the "hood" whenever you speak to Janelle or I, even though we've said on more than one occasion that neither of us live in there

Your lack of empathy whenever the victim is Black, Hispanic, Muslim, or Gay. In the SC thread you actually sympathized with the killer based on his horrible reasoning.

Every post you put up deals with black people, Muslims, or some combination of the two, and it's never a positive article.

The constant generalizations of being animals, thugs, and rioters that seep into every thought, even when black people aren't the focus of the OP.

The allegation that we all speak ebonics, and deserve to be treated as inferior.

So don't get it confused. You're being called a racist because you make racist comments on the regular here.

People hate you because you bring up facts that make them uncomfortable. It is easier for them to call you a racist rather than look at the truth.

Not really. We hate it when we're called names or using stereotypical statements to define all of us. If you want to talk truth, try it without the bigoted attitude. You'd get further.

I have been concerned about the welfare of black folks on here for years.

What have you done? Since you're concerned about our welfare, what programs do you partake in? Do you help with the youth, since you can't keep them out of your mouth? Do you go places and try to help out?

Please show me what you've done besides make a bunch of asinine comments.

sorry, although it's your opinion, I'll posit that if you keep that opinion,

then no upward mobility will exist for these groups of black Americans across the usa,

as

the bottom remains gone.

You can't get into the upwardly mobile queue when the bottom, the last rung, is removed. I ask that you reformulate your opinion during the new semester, based on your further research.

Thanks so much, and Thanks in advance !

hahahaahaha... wrong...

I'm curious. Why do you seem determined to deem Janelle's experience as not good enough? Or Venkman's for that matter?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Per pupil spending in Detroit as of 2008 was $13,000, which is higher than some people pay for private schooling in other parts of the country

Must be liberals running the school system

It sounds to me like the money isn't being spent very well and it isn't resulting in favourable outcomes to black youth.

If you want to blame that on liberals (therefore by extension presumably I am somehow guilty) you go right ahead. An insightful analysis of a complex problem it is not.

You need to come up with some arguments that don't involve partisan finger pointing. That's your weakness right there.

[JohnR! 5,495]

The entire rhetoric that 'they are stealing our jobs' is very much like Hitler convinced the German people that Jews were the cause of all of Germany's problems, as opposed to putting a mirror to their faces and telling them the truth.

The same is true today. Blaming 12 million people for the problems created by our own government for the last 30 years is not only disingenuous - it's downright imbecilic.

Some need to wake up and realize it will never trickle down. That's not how the capitalism works.

No she's right. Illegals can't take jobs from black people in detroit if those jobs don't exist to begin with.

Illegals aren't the problem, the collapse of industry and the city economy is.

[Expat1 971]

Illegals can't take jobs from black people that black people don't have. ... They don't have any jobs because the illegals are doing that work .

Nearly Half Of Detroit's Adults Are Functionally Illiterate, Report Finds

If you are functionally illiterate your ability to find a job is very slim . Now you bring in a horde of illegals that function at that same level your chances of finding work have not improved .

I don't think the illegals are running the pay-by-the hour hotels, pawnshops, payday loan offices, liquor stores, and doing the EZ check cashing in Detroit.

? Is there other (legal) work or business going on up there that we don't know about ?