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There are actually lots of CBP checkpoints inside the US.

Most of them are, technically, but I've never had to go through a cbp checkpoint when travelling by air domestically. Beyond that, it's not an issue for the OP because they will have a valid green card until the expiration date.

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Because he'd have to remove the conditions, and then wait here after that (likely for another 2 years) to get citizenship.

He wants to go back to England... why get US citizenship?

Because everybody in the world wants US citizenship, of course.

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Because everybody in the world wants US citizenship, of course.

Sure.

<<<<< doesn't.

Lol

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***Moved from Working & Traveling During US Immigration forum to Effects of Major Family Changes on Immigration Benefits forum.***

**Moderator hat off**

OP, after your return to the UK, if the expiration date on your green card has not yet passed, voluntarily surrender it to the Embassy in London.

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June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
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no one can mess anything up for you. Your green card is valid until the date printed on it. Period. Stop letting your ex try to scare you.

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Have a great trip, and enjoy seeing the sights.

The only reason it really matters if you surrender your green card is because the USA claims the right to tax you on all your worldwide income as long as you hold USA residency.

As a British citizen, you almost surely won't have trouble re-entering the USA as long as you were never here illegally. You shouldn't need a visa, you can just show your British passport at the port of entry. In theory they can deny you admission but in practice why would they?

In my entire life I've seen only one border patrol checkpoint other than at the border, which was somewhere in Vermont on a major highway, maybe they figured some people were being smuggled in from Canada.

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Because everybody in the world wants US citizenship, of course.

Possibly but I don't have the crystal ball to tell. But of this I know I'll wager that most that left everything behind to seek bette life with a loved one in the USA would want citizenship.

It's only an intelligent end result.

Thank you all for your kind words, support and advice. My green card doesn't expire until December 4, 2016, and I'm planning to leave the Country on October 27, 2015. So, now I have clarified with you all, I know I'm absolutely fine. On my return to London, I already planned to surrender my greencard at the Embassy. I'm incredibly relieved to know my ex can't do anything to me. Now I can look forward to my mini adventure, and leave America with positive memories as opposed to my current ones.

Thank you all!

Excellent. The best decision is always the one from within after considering all options.

I do have a question for even keeled experts. So OP has definitely expressed intent to migrate to the US. Would this affect future travels as a visitor to the US?

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Thank you all for your kind words, support and advice. My green card doesn't expire until December 4, 2016, and I'm planning to leave the Country on October 27, 2015. So, now I have clarified with you all, I know I'm absolutely fine. On my return to London, I already planned to surrender my greencard at the Embassy. I'm incredibly relieved to know my ex can't do anything to me. Now I can look forward to my mini adventure, and leave America with positive memories as opposed to my current ones.

Thank you all!

Just to let you know, the weather back here in Blighty is pants. Make sure you make the most of a bit of sunshine before getting on the freedom bird back home :)

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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Possibly but I don't have the crystal ball to tell. But of this I know I'll wager that most that left everything behind to seek bette life with a loved one in the USA would want citizenship.

It's only an intelligent end result.

Not everybody in the world considers the US as being a 'better life' and the OP is no longer with his former loved one.

So no real point in prolonging things to get citizenship.

I do have a question for even keeled experts. So OP has definitely expressed intent to migrate to the US. Would this affect future travels as a visitor to the US?

Excellent point that has been brought up in previous threads. General thoughts are that by surrendering the greencard at your home countries US embassy you are demonstrating that you no longer have intent to immigrate to the US.

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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Not everybody in the world considers the US as being a 'better life' and the OP is no longer with his former loved one.

So no real point in prolonging things to get citizenship.

Excellent point that has been brought up in previous threads. General thoughts are that by surrendering the greencard at your home countries US embassy you are demonstrating that you no longer have intent to immigrate to the US.

My opinions were directed to the OP, it clearly doesn't apply to you.

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As a British citizen, you almost surely won't have trouble re-entering the USA as long as you were never here illegally. You shouldn't need a visa, you can just show your British passport at the port of entry. In theory they can deny you admission but in practice why would they?

Just a small point but British Citizens certainly can NOT just rock up at a POE and show their passport.

They have to have a valid ESTA and be admissable under the terms of the VWP.

One thing I'm curious about although I'm quite sure it doesn't apply to the OP.

Everyone knows that overstays are forgiven for spouses of USCs when adjusting status for a greencars. But does that forgiveness still apply if the overstayer then returns to their own country and surrenders their greencard?

Say Mr X visits the US on VWP, overstays 5 years, marries a USC and adjusts to LPR successfully.

Little bit later and the marriage fails so Mr X returns home and hands in GC.

Would he then be hit with the 10 year ban he would have incurred if he hadn't adjusted status?

And if not that would he still forfeit VWP privileges for the future?

Just a curious question for the more learned forum members.

My opinions were directed to the OP, it clearly doesn't apply to you.

What does that have to do with it?

The OP stated that he had no wish to live in the US any longer

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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For the record, I didn't seek a "better life" in America. I'm from London, the quality of life is pretty high. I only came over here for my soon to be ex-wife. They are both great places to live though, it's just I can develop my career far further and quicker in the UK than I can here, and my family is over there!

Haha. MacUK, I'll definitely be soaking up the Californian sun before I head back!! :D

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