RFE to prove Match.com is not an International Marriage Broker

[Toronto Roots Fla 1]

Hi All,

We received a sort of surprising RFE today. The relevant portion is as follows:

"Circumstances of Meeting

You indicated that you met the beneficiary through a dating website online called Match.com. However, you did not provide any specific details about the website. Submit information regarding this website, including the circumstances under which you and beneficiary met to establish the relationship.

International Marriage Broker

You stated that you met the beneficiary on-line. It is not known if you met the beneficiary through an International Marriage Broker. An International Marriage Broker is considered a business that charges fees for providing dating.....between United States Citizens and foreign nationals. As such, such please submit evidence that you did not meet the beneficiary through services of an International Marriage Broker...."

I am trying not to get upset that this is the stupidest RFE in the history of RFEs and just focus on getting USCIS what they want. Here's our plan of attack for the two categories in which they're seeking more information.

1) Circumstances of Meeting - print out "About Match.com" description from their website. Submit the e-mails from Petitioner to me using the site. (Unfortunately, we don't have my e-mails back to him, since he erased the e-mails and we no longer have accounts online.) Re-iterate how we met in person for the first time and our meetings in person since (even though this was sent along with boarding passes in the original application).

2) International Marriage Broker - we e-mailed Match.com Customer Care to ask them whether they were an IMB. Hopefully, their response is enough to prove that they are not.

Has anyone else gone through this for Match? Am I missing anything that should be included?

Thanks in advance.

[kareelina 42]

That's really strange, I wonder why they interfere that much in people's private affairs , you and your mate already met no matter where , it is none of their business , all what I understand is that, they want to make things hard for all of us.

[TBoneTX 43,058]

It's been happening recently in regard to many websites. The "fix" is easy.

*** Thread moved from K-1 Case Progress forum to the IMBRA subforum, where similar matters are discussed. ***

[Rick&Alina 6]

The whole thing is dumb. If you answered no to the question then that is all that should be required.

[Shauneg 762]

Just print out their terms of service it should state implicitly that they are not a marriage broker, this RFE happens all the time when people say they met online. If I can catch people before they send the petition I tell them to send the T.O.S. with their package.....just in case this happens.

That's really strange, I wonder why they interfere that much in people's private affairs , you and your mate already met no matter where , it is none of their business , all what I understand is that, they want to make things hard for all of us.

It matters because of IMBRA, not to make matters hard.

[Toronto Roots Fla 1]

Just print out their terms of service it should state implicitly that they are not a marriage broker, this RFE happens all the time when people say they met online. If I can catch people before they send the petition I tell them to send the T.O.S. with their package.....just in case this happens.

It matters because of IMBRA, not to make matters hard.

I might be missing something, but I read Match's terms of use and it doesn't seem to indicate explicitly or implicitly that they are not an IMB. From reading other posts on here, this seems to be explicitly stated in some other sites' terms of use, but not Match. Do you know what language in the terms of use I should be looking for to indicate they are not an IMB?

[TBoneTX 43,058]

See the advice from the fabulous pushbrk, who sadly is all too inactive on VJ:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/553538-elenas-models-rfe-for-imb/?p=7688172

[sailorgal 33]

Me and my fiancé met online too over eharmony.com but he did not receive any such RFE. Thankfully. I do agree it is one crazy RFE and this is just me but may be match.com sounds like a match making website name so they generated that RFE for you?! But yea don't bother/worry too much about it and just send USCIS what they need. Also you've answered your question for yourself; I think those evidences you mentioned be enough along with the terms and conditions part like someone here stated.

[Shauneg 762]

I might be missing something, but I read Match's terms of use and it doesn't seem to indicate explicitly or implicitly that they are not an IMB. From reading other posts on here, this seems to be explicitly stated in some other sites' terms of use, but not Match. Do you know what language in the terms of use I should be looking for to indicate they are not an IMB

I apologize. I was thinking of another site that comes up alot on here. People have had success with match.com by emailing them and receiving a written reply from them stating they are not IMB.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/70728-is-matchcom-considered-a-marriage-broker/page-2

[Toronto Roots Fla 1]

See the advice from the fabulous pushbrk, who sadly is all too inactive on VJ:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/553538-elenas-models-rfe-for-imb/?p=7688172

Thanks for linking that thread. I will wait for Match's response to my e-mail and submit that along with a further explanation about site and how we met.

[Toronto Roots Fla 1]

I apologize. I was thinking of another site that comes up alot on here. People have had success with match.com by emailing them and receiving a written reply from them stating they are not IMB.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/70728-is-matchcom-considered-a-marriage-broker/page-2

No worries! Super helpful thread, thanks for linking it here. Hopefully, we are the anomaly and there is not a new/renewed interest in sending RFEs to people who have used Match.

[Shauneg 762]

Sadly it's becoming more frequent for even the big name sites that everyone should know already aren't IMBs. And of course the burden is on the petitioners to provide proof...

[Adil & Jeanne 296]

First go to either of your profiles on the site and print out profile and first message.

Second write up an affidavit and have your signature notarized.

(exmaples of affidvits can be found online) Pretty easy to print one up. Any problems contact me as I can do an example for you.Not stating my former job but trust me this is not hard.

[Cathi 5,610]

Seriously? How can they NOT know what Match.com is? Totally ridiculous

See the advice from the fabulous pushbrk, who sadly is all too inactive on VJ:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/553538-elenas-models-rfe-for-imb/?p=7688172

pushbrk is awesome

[Toronto Roots Fla 1]

First go to either of your profiles on the site and print out profile and first message.

Second write up an affidavit and have your signature notarized.

(exmaples of affidvits can be found online) Pretty easy to print one up. Any problems contact me as I can do an example for you.Not stating my former job but trust me this is not hard.

Unfortunately, we no longer have acess to our profiles on Match. We only have the e-mails from him to me. We're going to include Match's About Us page, their Terms of Service, the Match e-mails from him to me, some of the 300 pages of our whatsapp chat, and our skype logs to describe how the relationship started. I'm hoping this will be enough to satisfy the RFE as it realtes to details about Match and our "Circumstances of Meeting" because we don't really have anything else.

We're still waiting to hear from Match about it not being an IMB.

Thanks for your repsonse and your offer to help us write affidavits. If we need help along the way, we'll definitely reach out.