Walker wants Boy Scouts ‘protected’ from gay people

[JohnR! 5,495]

What predicament?

I would not. I would not want to put my daughter in that type of predicament no matter how much I trust this scout.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Sorry to hear that Janelle. I know you went through hell to try to get him here. Sometimes life just isn't fair. I wish you the best.

Awww you are so sweet. Thanks Teddy B.

What predicament?

This would require for me to go back and read and I'm too lazy to do that today.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

The other moms would chip in and help out. Quite normal.

2nd, my husband isn't getting here. We have abandoned all hope and are splitting into 2, you know, like our lives have been for the last 4 years we have been at this.

3rd, my kids are older.. If I did bring a step father into the home my kids are statistically at a safer age which is 7-13, except for my youngest which is 11. Doors in my house are to be locked at night and I am a very, very light sleeper. Also, I know my husband. This is different than sending them camping by themselves for days with a complete stranger.

Thank you for thinking I am a good person Not a Tailor and you are as well. I am happy for all of the progress that is being made and I know you and your wife will be happy.

So sorry about this J. You moved mountains to make it work. If anyone deserves to be happy, it's most certainly you.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

So sorry about this J. You moved mountains to make it work. If anyone deserves to be happy, it's most certainly you.

Thank you Marv. I appreciate it.

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

Oh Janelle, I am so sorry to read your news. You have been an inspiration I'm sure to so many waiting the separation out.

Hugs from the left coast, beautiful lady.

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Oh Janelle, I am so sorry to read your news. You have been an inspiration I'm sure to so many waiting the separation out.

Hugs from the left coast, beautiful lady.

Thank you Mav. I will continue to try and be an inspiration to everyone waiting out this harsh process. There's nothing that can be done about it. It is what it is.

You are awesome and I appreciate your kind words.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Sorry about your news, Janelle. Best wishes 頑張ってね❗️

[Janelle2002 3,865]

Sorry about your news, Janelle. Best wishes 頑張ってね❗️

Ganbarimashou!!! Dou yatte nihongo wakarimasu ka??

Sorry, hiragana on my computer

Edited July 16, 2015 by Janelle2002

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Ganbarimashou!!! Dou yatte nihongo wakarimasu ka??

Sorry, hiragana on my computer

This is why you're hot...

[Jacque67 7,328]

Ganbarimashou!!! Dou yatte nihongo wakarimasu ka??

Sorry, hiragana on my computer

I live in Japan...

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Yes, I posted about the Boy Scouts beginning to seriously discuss overturning their gay leadership ban the other day. This is a separate topic, as it regards the opinions of a presidential candidate regarding whether or not children should be 'protected' from gay people.

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Yup, Scott Walker thinks that gay people can't have Scout values and that children need to be protected from us. Why is this a problem? Well, many things.

1) Scouting is a leadership/mentorship type of program designed to allow young kids (especially boys in America, though Scouting IS co-ed in other nations) to have positive role models that they can look up to and identify with. Gay Scouts are now allowed in the BSA. When you exclude gay leaders from the program, explicitly, you send the message to gay Scouts that there is no such thing as a positive homosexual role model. The program also encourages a lifelong commitment to Scouting, asking youth to take junior leadership opportunities and asking youth, as they reach age of majority, to assist in maintaining leadership:youth ratios at the correct numbers. Therefore, it goes against Scout values to ban gay leaders and allow gay Scouts.

2) (more importantly) Gay people are not more likely to be abusive towards children by any measure. There is literally no non-biased study or study that followed good selection sampling that has ever been done that has concluded that homosexuals are more likely to sexually offend or abuse against children than heterosexuals. Studies have found, however, that "extensive data available from more than 30 years of research reveal that children raised by gay and lesbian parents have demonstrated resilience with regard to social, psychological, and sexual health despite economic and legal disparities and social stigma".

3) (perhaps most importantly) As many as 60% of Americans supported Same Sex Marriage the month before the supreme court ruling. Can a man who believes that children need to be protected from gay people actually represent, suitably, the needs and desires of that 60% of Americans?

I am very Pro Gay rights, but I would be against it for the same reason I would be against sending a bunch of heterosexual men in to be girl scout leaders.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

I am very Pro Gay rights, but I would be against it for the same reason I would be against sending a bunch of heterosexual men in to be girl scout leaders.

Do you also balk at the idea of heterosexual men being the primary supervising teacher of co-ed overnight field trips?

[Janelle2002 3,865]

I live in Japan...

Wakaranakatta. Tsuki?

This is why you're hot...

Didn't know I was hot. New one on me. Thanks Marv.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Do you also balk at the idea of heterosexual men being the primary supervising teacher of co-ed overnight field trips?

Hard to say. I admit it is a subject with some conflicting issues. I would say that for an overnight coed trip, you should have members of both sexes present as chaperones,

I am not suggesting that a gay scout leader wold be any more prone to be a child molester than a straight, I just think when it comes to our children you have to have safe guards. I know as a man, I would never put myself in a situation of being alone with a bunch of young girls or any kids that I was not kin to our close personal friends of the family.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Hard to say. I admit it is a subject with some conflicting issues. I would say that for an overnight coed trip, you should have members of both sexes present as chaperones,

I am not suggesting that a gay scout leader wold be any more prone to be a child molester than a straight, I just think when it comes to our children you have to have safe guards. I know as a man, I would never put myself in a situation of being alone with a bunch of young girls or any kids that I was not kin to our close personal friends of the family.

So, you realize that the days of a single Scoutmaster taking children out into the bush are over, right? Like, that's a thing that literally cannot happen for insurance reasons on top of worries of molestation.

Scouts are at an age where they are coming into their sexualities. Some of the kids in most troops are gay--some may not even know it yet. How would one gay Scouter along with a couple of hetero Scouters be any different from the situations that already happen with a hetero female Scouter coming along (more in Cubs, but I think some US troops also have female Scouters due to leadership numbers not being high enough in general)?

Imagine being a gay child and being told that people like you were too dangerous to have around children. Imagine what message that sends, to isolate children from potential gay role models.