Illegal Alien/Undocumented Random Act of Violence

[Jacque67 7,328]

You could post one of those every day.

How is the ISIS flag?

[Boiler 43,430]

How is the ISIS flag?

How is your eyesight?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

All illegal aliens are Illegal.

Real simple.

So simple even the left Muddy ditch PC, all white Muricans are evil crowd should be able to comprehend

You have once again missed the point entirely. I have no idea how you got the idea that I have an issue with the term alien as applicable to both legal and illegal aliens in the US. I have never said that nor in fact do I have a problem with that.

I do take issue with the Donalds blanket statement regarding the people who have crossed our borders being rapists and murderers. Allowing that given the sheer numbers alone a few'might perhaps' be good people doesn't make his comment any more acceptable for me.

[Rob L 3,811]

Time for less of the don and more of the data....

http://immigrationpolicy.org/special-reports/criminalization-immigration-united-states

Nationwide, Immigrants are Five Times Less Likely to be in Prison Than the Native-Born

• A 2007 study by University of California, Irvine, sociologist Rubén G. Rumbaut, found that for every ethnic group, without exception, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants, even those who are the least educated. This holds true especially for the Mexicans, Salvadorans, and Guatemalans who make up the bulk of the undocumented population.
  • The 3.5 percent incarceration rate for native-born men age 18-39 was five times higher than the 0.7 percent rate for immigrant men in 2000{Figure 5}. Among male high-school dropouts, 9.8 percent of the native-born were behind bars in 2000, compared to only 1.3 percent of immigrants.
  • In 2000, 0.7 percent of foreign-born Mexican men and 0.5 percent of foreign-born Salvadoran and Guatemalan men were in prison. Among male high-school dropouts, 0.7 percent of foreign-born Mexicans and 0.6 percent of foreign-born Salvadorans and Guatemalans were behind bars in 2000.

• Economists Kristin Butcher and Anne Morrison Piehl used data from the 1980, 1990, and 2000 Censuses to demonstrate that the lower incarceration rate for immigrants could not be explained away with the argument that there are so few immigrants in prison because so many of them are deported, or by the argument that harsher immigration laws are deterring immigrants from committing crimes because they are afraid of getting deported.
  • Instead, Butcher and Piehl conclude that, during the 1990s, “those immigrants who chose to come to the United States were less likely to be involved in criminal activity than earlier immigrants and the native born.”

Research in New Jersey and California Found Immigrants Less Likely to be in Prison

• An analysis of data from the New Jersey Department of Corrections and U.S. Census Bureau by New Jersey’s Star-Ledger found that “U.S. citizens are twice as likely to land in New Jersey’s prisons as legal and illegal immigrants.” According to the Star-Ledger’s analysis, released in April 2008, “non-U.S. citizens make up 10 percent of the state’s overall population, but just 5 percent of the 22,623 inmates in prison as of July 2007.”

• A June 2008 report from the Public Policy Institute of California found that foreign-born adults in California have lower incarceration rates than their native-born counterparts. Based on data from 2005, the report found that “the incarceration rate for foreign-born adults is 297 per 100,000 in the population, compared to 813 per 100,000 for U.S.-born adults. The foreign-born, who make up roughly 35% of California’s adult population, constitute 17% of the state prison population, a proportion that has remained fairly constant since 1990.”

Immigration Violations, Not Violent Acts, Account for Most Immigrants in Federal Prison

• In an attempt to get around low immigrant incarceration rates, many anti-immigrant activists turn to a frequently cited estimate that over one quarter of inmates in federal prisons are “criminal aliens.” This is highly misleading for two reasons:
  • Many of the immigrants in federal prison are being criminally charged with an immigration violation and nothing more. In other words, they may be in federal prison even though they have not committed a violent crime or even a property crime. Their only crime might be entering the country without permission. The federal government has chosen to prosecute more and more unauthorized immigrants for “unlawful entry” rather than simply deporting them, which means that they end up in federal prison.
  • The federal prison population is a small share of the total prison population. One cannot make generalizations about the incarceration rates of immigrants based on the immigrant share of the federal inmate population since, according to data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, only about 9 percent of the U.S. prison population was in federal prisons as of 2011. At the state and local level, where most U.S. prisoners are held, the incarceration rates for immigrants are lower than for the native-born.

Conclusion

The problem of crime in the United States is not caused or even aggravated by immigrants, regardless of their legal status. This is hardly surprising since immigrants come to the United States to pursue economic and educational opportunities not available in their home countries and to build better lives for themselves and their families. As a result, they have little to gain and much to lose by breaking the law. Undocumented immigrants in particular have even more reason to not run afoul of the law given the risk of deportation that their lack of legal status entails. Public policies must be based on facts, not anecdotes or emotions. And the fact is that the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals

Edited July 10, 2015 by Rob L

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Uh oh Rob! No facts in the CEHST pool please!

[lostinblue 1,989]

as legal and illegal immigrants .... Legal immigrants have undergone fairly extensive background checks in most cases. A person with a record would be flagged as a no go. .........This is why legal immigrants have been included in this study. They NEED to skew the results . Trump talked about illegal immigrants and crime

[Rob L 3,811]

as legal and illegal immigrants .... Legal immigrants have undergone fairly extensive background checks in most cases. A person with a record would be flagged as a no go. .........This is why legal immigrants have been included in this study. They NEED to skew the results . Trump talked about illegal immigrants and crime

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When do we beat Mexico at the border? They're laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they're killing us economically.

The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people."

What did I miss?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

“

When do we beat Mexico at the border? They're laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they're killing us economically.

The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people."

What did I miss?

You missed that Trump has issues with them, but they can work for him anytime...

[JohnR! 5,495]

In in at least one instance he married them...

You missed that Trump has issues with them, but they can work for him anytime...

Edited July 10, 2015 by JohnR!

[Rob L 3,811]

You missed that Trump has issues with them, but they can work for him anytime...

Which ones? The legals or the illegals? The legal rapists or the illegal good people?