Illegal Alien/Undocumented Random Act of Violence

[VOL 425]

So you disagree with the Declaration of Independence?

Well is was written for White Man

I think it a very good document.

I believe Thomas Jefferson had slaves, and he had a slave mistress that he fathered children.

I wasn't there when it was written, but from the history I was taught it was very risky to sign it or to even write it. USA declared independence from England and fought hard to maintain their freedom.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

Well is was written for White Man

I think it a very good document.

I believe Thomas Jefferson had slaves, and he had a slave mistress that he fathered children.

I wasn't there when it was written, but from the history I was taught it was very risky to sign it or to even write it. USA declared independence from England and fought hard to maintain their freedom.

Sorry, are you saying that you believe that the spirit of the declaration of independence should only ever be applied to white people? Specifically white men?

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Sorry, are you saying that you believe that the spirit of the declaration of independence should only ever be applied to white people? Specifically white men?

I suggest you study the history of the Declaration of Independence.

It was signed by 56 White Males.

At the time Woman had no rights, nor did slaves, and Thomas Jefferson who wrote the DOI was a major slave owner in Virginia.

It was written for White Male in practice, but meant for all Americans in Theory .........

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I don't want any special treatment. Just treat me like an illegal alien.

[Not a Tailor 1,370]

I suggest you study the history of the Declaration of Independence.

It was signed by 56 White Males.

At the time Woman had no rights, nor did slaves, and Thomas Jefferson who wrote the DOI was a major slave owner in Virginia.

It was written for White Male in practice, but meant for all Americans in Theory .........

That is not what I asked.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

7 time felon ....The system is running as it was intended . You arrest them and they get a slap on the wrist. We will send you home and please stay in your country for at least

a week or two....This is the person Trump was talking about this week.

No. Trump was saying that this exception is the rule and painting all illegal immigrants with a broad brush. The OP is very sad and a tragedy but I think you give the Donald way too much credit trying to use it for an 'I told you so.'

[JohnR! 5,495]

The system has been broke for a while - there are way too many guns on the streets. She'll become just another number in the deaths by gun statistics in our country.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3147942/Woman-randomly-shot-death-popular-San-Francisco-pier.html

Apparently, the system broke down. Too bad for the victim, may she rest in peace.

[Rob L 3,811]

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[Rob L 3,811]

Well is was written for White Man

I think it a very good document.

I believe Thomas Jefferson had slaves, and he had a slave mistress that he fathered children.

I wasn't there when it was written, but from the history I was taught it was very risky to sign it or to even write it. USA declared independence from England and fought hard to maintain their freedom.

You are not wrong about it being there when signed but it was there when written.

Jefferson, the slave owner, included this in his initial draft:

"He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the Christian King of Great Britain. Determined to keep open a market where Men should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or restrain this execrable commerce. And that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people on whom he has obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed again the Liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.

Southern slave owners and Northern slave traders fought to have this replaced with "“He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us,...."

[lostinblue 1,989]

http://sfist.com/2015/07/02/news_crews_robbed_at_gunpoint_camer.php

[update] News Crews Robbed At Gunpoint, Camera Man Pistol Whipped While Reporting Live From The Scene Of Pier 14 Homicide

This morning just after 6 a.m., television news crews from KTVU and KNBC became embroiled in the news themselves while reporting from the scene of yesterday's fatal shooting at Pier 14.

That homicide, a possibly random attack on a 31-year-old Pleasanton woman, occurred at around 6:30 p.m. last night. This morning, as CBS SF and the Chronicle report, armed robbers made off with equipment and pistol whipped a KTVU camera operator who were at the scene of the previous crime.

“Hold on, hold on, wait,” said KTVU reporter Cara Liu to anchor Brian Flores who was in the process of introducing the story and going live to Liu. At that moment, KNTV reporter Kris Sanchez and camera operator Alan Waples were menaced with a gun by a suspect being reported as a young man.

“Don’t shoot! Don’t shoot!” Sanchez yelled. Then Waples, who is 54, was pistol whipped. “Take the camera!” he recalls saying while "waiting for the click of the gun." Indeed, the assailant made off with a camera and a tripod, which he reportedly struggled to put into a black BMW before hitting Waples again and ordering Sanchez to the ground.

Though no shots were fired, an ominous ammo magazine from one gun lay on the ground at the scene. Neither of the crews had security details, which many such outfits employ for covering similar stories due to a long history of such robberies. Liu, for example, has had particularly bad luck while reporting from crime scenes, with a woman hitting her in the head while she was working the story of a shooting death at an East Oakland swap meet.

CBS notes that stations are mostly likely to use security officers outside of San Francisco, now an ironic reflection on the presumption of safety within city limits. KTVU was robbed as recently as February, that time in Hayward, and here in SF, an attempt to rob a crew in the Bayview failed back in 2013.

For those wondering what, exactly, becomes of stolen high-tech TV equipment, The New York Times tells of a black market for which hauls can fetch as much as $50,000.

Update: SFPD has alerted media outlets that the "suspects are described as three black males, all wearing dark clothing, with onesuspect having dreadlocks. The suspect vehicle is described as a black BMW 7 series with upgraded BMW rims, no plates."

S.F.Liberals need security officers to feel safe but want to deny the average person a CC permit .

[Dashinka 23,241]

Sorry, are you saying that you believe that the spirit of the declaration of independence should only ever be applied to white people? Specifically white men?

Actually, to be more specific, it was written for landowners of European decent. It just happens to be that at that time, only white men were landowners. I don't think women could own land, and certainly slaves did not, and I don't believe they recognized the Native American titles either.

Regardless, times have changed and the spirit Jefferson showed in his words pertains to everyone as it should. One thing that I wish would still be the same is that only landowners would be able to vote for property tax questions. I know renters do pay some property taxes as part of their rent, but it is not the same in my opinion.

Lastly, Trump was not talking about persons that come to this country through legal means which is part of the TOS here at VJ. But the PC police don't care to parse the feelings, and in their opinion he is speaking of all aliens from the South.

[Dashinka 23,241]

http://sfist.com/2015/07/02/news_crews_robbed_at_gunpoint_camer.php

[update] News Crews Robbed At Gunpoint, Camera Man Pistol Whipped While Reporting Live From The Scene Of Pier 14 Homicide

This morning just after 6 a.m., television news crews from KTVU and KNBC became embroiled in the news themselves while reporting from the scene of yesterday's fatal shooting at Pier 14.

That homicide, a possibly random attack on a 31-year-old Pleasanton woman, occurred at around 6:30 p.m. last night. This morning, as CBS SF and the Chronicle report, armed robbers made off with equipment and pistol whipped a KTVU camera operator who were at the scene of the previous crime.

Hold on, hold on, wait, said KTVU reporter Cara Liu to anchor Brian Flores who was in the process of introducing the story and going live to Liu. At that moment, KNTV reporter Kris Sanchez and camera operator Alan Waples were menaced with a gun by a suspect being reported as a young man.

Dont shoot! Dont shoot! Sanchez yelled. Then Waples, who is 54, was pistol whipped. Take the camera! he recalls saying while "waiting for the click of the gun." Indeed, the assailant made off with a camera and a tripod, which he reportedly struggled to put into a black BMW before hitting Waples again and ordering Sanchez to the ground.

Though no shots were fired, an ominous ammo magazine from one gun lay on the ground at the scene. Neither of the crews had security details, which many such outfits employ for covering similar stories due to a long history of such robberies. Liu, for example, has had particularly bad luck while reporting from crime scenes, with a woman hitting her in the head while she was working the story of a shooting death at an East Oakland swap meet.

CBS notes that stations are mostly likely to use security officers outside of San Francisco, now an ironic reflection on the presumption of safety within city limits. KTVU was robbed as recently as February, that time in Hayward, and here in SF, an attempt to rob a crew in the Bayview failed back in 2013.

For those wondering what, exactly, becomes of stolen high-tech TV equipment, The New York Times tells of a black market for which hauls can fetch as much as $50,000.

Update: SFPD has alerted media outlets that the "suspects are described as three black males, all wearing dark clothing, with onesuspect having dreadlocks. The suspect vehicle is described as a black BMW 7 series with upgraded BMW rims, no plates."

S.F.Liberals need security officers to feel safe but want to deny the average person a CC permit .

Sounds like the assailants themselves could afford security details if they are driving a BMW 7 Series.

[Dashinka 23,241]

San Fran is a sanctuary city.

So true. SF officials admit that they do not always comply with USCIS requests.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3149706/Family-Californian-woman-shot-dead-random-illegal-Mexican-immigrant-deported-FIVE-TIMES-condemn-officials-let-stay.html

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Actually, to be more specific, it was written for landowners of European decent. It just happens to be that at that time, only white men were landowners. I don't think women could own land, and certainly slaves did not, and I don't believe they recognized the Native American titles either.

Regardless, times have changed and the spirit Jefferson showed in his words pertains to everyone as it should. One thing that I wish would still be the same is that only landowners would be able to vote for property tax questions. I know renters do pay some property taxes as part of their rent, but it is not the same in my opinion.

Lastly, Trump was not talking about persons that come to this country through legal means which is part of the TOS here at VJ. But the PC police don't care to parse the feelings, and in their opinion he is speaking of all aliens from the South.

So, what is it that you really want to say?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I don't want any special treatment. Just treat me like an illegal alien.

Then renounce your citizenship. So you can be treated like one.