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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: France
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Hey guys,

I'm a CGC Holder, issued through a K-1 visa. My wife (US Citizen) is goind to leave the US for something like 2 yearsor 3 to attend a master's degree in Europe and have some work experience abroad, around europe and/or the middle east in hotels. And obviously, we are planing to fill out the ROC jointly (while she is abroad) because we can't get divorced for this story... Do you have any advices in case of an interview is scheduled ? We are not sure how things will be going for her there, if she can take a few days to come back for the interview or not...

Thank's !!

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If called to an I-751 interview and your US citizen spouse fails to attend, it will probably result in an automatic denial.

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The good news is that they do not give a lot interviews for ROC applicants. However, living separately could possibly trigger one. If you submit plenty of evidence of your marriage though, you might be ok. If you are scheduled for an interview, your wife will need to return to the US long enough to attend with you.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: France
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Are you accompanying her on this adventure?

Hi, No I'm not. I still didn't graduate yet, and I will graduate in a while, I can't ditch everything again and start from the beginning one more time, we are getting old lol and we must start building our life seriously now. Since she is leaving just for a period of time and for a good reason, we can manage that and visit each other everytime we get a chance.

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
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I tend to believe in "out of sight...out of mind".

Unless there is rock solid trust and bonding in the relationship,

I think for a newlyweds to live separately for extended period like 2 to 3 years

is going to really strain the relationship.

Is there a way for you to join her or her to achieve her goals in US together?

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I tend to believe in "out of sight...out of mind".

Unless there is rock solid trust and bonding in the relationship,

I think for a newlyweds to live separately for extended period like 2 to 3 years

is going to really strain the relationship.

Is there a way for you to join her or her to achieve her goals in US together?

I second that! I cannot understand how a relatively newly married couple would seperate for 2-3 years but that's just me. It's not the norm, and it certainly isn't natural.

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As a current student, I can understand why it may be necessary to seperate for a few years while you finish school and she begins school. My question for you is this... when you graduate are you planning to join her? I did not see it mentioned if you are currently working as well as attending school.

If there is no way for you to physically move with her while she attends school, I would suggest you make a preliminary check of your documents now to see where you stand as it regards ROC. What do you have and what will they be looking for (the guides will help with this)? Also, how far into the move will you be filing ROC? Will it be a year (or more) after she leaves or just a few months?

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Simple ques to ask yourself:

Do you two plan to stay married, in a bona fide, continual relationship until ROC? Submit documentary evidence to that effect, and you might be good to hopefully avoid triggering an interview.

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Country: Germany
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we are planing to fill out the ROC jointly (while she is abroad) because we can't get divorced for this story...

This is the part I don't get... Why would you get divorced for this after finally obtaining a K-1, moving to the US and getting married to the person you love? Don't get me wrong, I do understand the situation you're in and it's important to achieve your professional goals... but why would you want that?

 

 
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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: France
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As a current student, I can understand why it may be necessary to seperate for a few years while you finish school and she begins school. My question for you is this... when you graduate are you planning to join her? I did not see it mentioned if you are currently working as well as attending school.

If there is no way for you to physically move with her while she attends school, I would suggest you make a preliminary check of your documents now to see where you stand as it regards ROC. What do you have and what will they be looking for (the guides will help with this)? Also, how far into the move will you be filing ROC? Will it be a year (or more) after she leaves or just a few months?

I'm glad you understand our issue that only the ones who attended or are currently attending school can get. She is studying tourism and hotels management, a good international knowledge is very important for her studies and futur jobs in the US. I defenitly can't move with her, she will have her master's degree in Paris (in one year) and then have some experience in a few other countries and I will graduate in 3 years, I have a job here as well. she will leave approximately 7 months before ROC. We can visit each other during this separation, but nothing more. And I'm not happy about this story trust me...it's not that easy for us to get separate plus we have to deal with the immigration as well... We think we will hire a lawyer. We will never let the immigration show us the way we have to live together. Thank's a lot for your precious response.

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Simple ques to ask yourself:

Do you two plan to stay married, in a bona fide, continual relationship until ROC? Submit documentary evidence to that effect, and you might be good to hopefully avoid triggering an interview.

Of course we do and we will submit the evidence and see what's gonna happen.

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This is the part I don't get... Why would you get divorced for this after finally obtaining a K-1, moving to the US and getting married to the person you love? Don't get me wrong, I do understand the situation you're in and it's important to achieve your professional goals... but why would you want that?

We don't want that ! I said, we won't divorce, that means that I want her to go achieve her goals and professional plans then come back. It's not a conflictual situation between us. And we will visit each other everytime we get a chance.

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Country: Germany
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We don't want that ! I said, we won't divorce, that means that I want her to go achieve her goals and professional plans then come back. It's not a conflictual situation between us. And we will visit each other everytime we get a chance.

Ok, good :) When you said "we can't", it sounded as if you wanted, but weren't able to for some reason. Being from Europe, I know that your wife's major is a tough one and she does need the experience. I wish you both all the best and hope everything works out in the end!

 

 
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