K-1 visa I-129 form & proof of relationship

[Rinara 5]

Oh, I just came across this information on an unrelated website.

I was born in Northern Ireland. Am I British?

If you were born before 1 January 1983, the answer is yes (unless your father was an Irish diplomat).

If you were born on or after 1 January 1983, the position is more complex. You will be automatically British if one of your parents was a British citizen (but not a British subject) at the time of your birth. This applies whether they had a British passport or not.

If neither parent was a British citizen, you will still be British automatically if either of your parents was ‘settled’ in the UK. This is defined as being ordinarily resident and having permission to stay indefinitely in the UK. Irish citizens are given this permission automatically, so the only issue would be whether your parents were living in Northern Ireland at the time you were born. If that was the case, then you are British automatically, if not (eg they were on holidays) then you will not be British from birth.

So a person's nationality depends on when they were born, and their parents' nationality, too. Good to keep in mind.

[2ndMessiah 184]

Oh, I just came across this information on an unrelated website.

I was born in Northern Ireland. Am I British?

If you were born before 1 January 1983, the answer is yes (unless your father was an Irish diplomat).

If you were born on or after 1 January 1983, the position is more complex. You will be automatically British if one of your parents was a British citizen (but not a British subject) at the time of your birth. This applies whether they had a British passport or not.

If neither parent was a British citizen, you will still be British automatically if either of your parents was ‘settled’ in the UK. This is defined as being ordinarily resident and having permission to stay indefinitely in the UK. Irish citizens are given this permission automatically, so the only issue would be whether your parents were living in Northern Ireland at the time you were born. If that was the case, then you are British automatically, if not (eg they were on holidays) then you will not be British from birth.

So a person's nationality depends on when they were born, and their parents' nationality, too. Good to keep in mind.

So a lot of words saying if your born in UK soil your British...... With a few minor get out clauses.

[2ndMessiah 184]

On a slightly related note. It is silly that the ROI is still dishing out Irish passports to Northern Ireland citizens if they want one. The countries have been separate for approaching 100 years.

Rinara, if you are resident in the ROI you will be processed through Dublin.

[Rinara 5]

On a slightly related note. It is silly that the ROI is still dishing out Irish passports to Northern Ireland citizens if they want one. The countries have been separate for approaching 100 years.

Rinara, if you are resident in the ROI you will be processed through Dublin.

It's not "silly". Kindly do not belittle the laws, traditions and constitution of someone else's country. It's rude, and uncalled for. It's how things are. As was stated in my last post. The countries are separated in as many ways as they are not. People can live, work, study, etc, on either side of the border interchangeably. The laws are still being changed and reviewed so that the UK government and laws work in harmony with the Irish ones. It's not an easy feat, and not one to be sniffed at.

As for said previous post, yes, "a lot of words saying.... you're British" and, ways saying you're not or don't have to be. I was attempting to help the OP see that the confusion over nationality is valid and that there are many factors that can influence whether or not her partner is Irish.

The "minor get-out clauses" are anything but, when it comes to citizenship in a country that has been through as much unrest as Ireland has.

The OP and I could very well have been born in the same town less than a few years apart, and depending on the date of birth, our parents' nationality and current residences, have different entitlements to citizenship, or exactly the same.

Please, don't be disrespectful.

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I have to agree in saying that it is not silly at all and that's a very simplistic way of looking at it. My fiancé takes deep pride in his irish citizenship and is one of just many individuals who believe in a united Ireland and not one that is split and ruled over by British government. His being born in the UK does mean that he sees himself as less irish and the fact that he is given the right to claim irish citizenship is far from silly.

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[2ndMessiah 184]

Ummmmm. I need to apologize to Rinara. I let my heart rule my head. I have reread some things on Irish/British Citizenship and I stand corrected. I have asked for my previous post to be deleted. I wish the OP the best of luck with their journey.

Thank you Ontarkie for deleting my post.

Edited June 6, 2015 by 2ndMessiah

[Rinara 5]

Ummmmm. I need to apologize to Rinara. I let my heart rule my head. I have reread some things on Irish/British Citizenship and I stand corrected. I have asked for my previous post to be deleted. I wish the OP the best of luck with their journey.

Thank you Ontarkie for deleting my post.

I'll say I'm surprised that you apologised, NOT because I didn't think that much of you, but because it's a topic that there are rarely apologies over.

So I want to say thank you for the apology. It's a big thing to do on a public forum. So thank you. And if I caused any irritation I apologise, too. It's a tricky subject even between Irish people, let along anyone else who has some knowledge on the matter, too.

I wish you and the OP the best of luck with everything.

[2ndMessiah 184]

I'll say I'm surprised that you apologised, NOT because I didn't think that much of you, but because it's a topic that there are rarely apologies over.

Its good you hold me in such High esteem....

Well lets put my ignorance on the matter in the past.

[Ryan H 3,790]

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Edited June 7, 2015 by Ryan H