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Freddie Gray's Death Ruled A Homicide; Officers Will Face Murder Charges

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To be clear, I'm not saying you deserve what you get if you don't do what the police say. But I'm not pushing it. Just like I wouldn't confront someone following me. It's one thing to talk about the way things should be. It's another to watch your butt yanno?

TBH, I think that cops have a hard enough job as it is protecting our cities and it's citizens. I'm all about following the rules when it comes to police interactions. You won't catch me mouthing off because that makes things more complicated. I guess my point is that when you're black, the police tend to handle you more aggressively versus when you're white. I know the crime stats are there, but there should be a line drawn somewhere. Kids and elderly folks are now in the same line of fire. What's next? Going to the nursing home and getting those OG's that used to gang bang back in the 50's?

There's this guy going around giving cops tickets. He checks cops on what he sees as deficiencies in their policing. There's no way a black guy could do this and get away with it.

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Good. I'm not surprised based on what has been reported thus far on this incident. I hope that the officer driving is prosecuted to the full extent of the law and any and all officers involved are at the least charged as well with accessories charges for failure to seat belt him in.

What really happened?I have not had time to follow it.

yeah. i'm feeling relieved that they decided to pursue so quickly after the report was turned in, also that they've come right out and said he never should have been arrested in the first place.

I agree. The previous 16 times was enough

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I have not read her article or anything much on it. It's gonna be interesting.

I will let the facts sort out and then read up on it.

Facts really will not matter, just like M Brown. They will have to hang no matter what or the city will burn

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Not denying or defending his criminal record, it certainly exists. However, many of the charges listed are stets or nolle prosequi. Essentially they claim to bring you in on charges, but can't really be bothered in proving those charges in a court of law. The charges remain on your record and are not exactly dropped, but yet you aren't prosecuted for them either.

Not entirely clear on the knife he was carrying. I presume since it was legal it would of been a swiss army type knife. Absolutely a farce that the BPD thought they would of gotten those charges to stick. He would of been released without charge, had he survived, in an effort to sweep the probable cause and false imprisonment charge under the rug.

Good point. How many convictions does he have

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I know there have been some with no criminal history, but it seems like the big headline cases have some sort of lengthy rap sheet. It is hard for the public to believe someone is innocent if they have been arrest dozens of times. Innocent people don't get unjustly arrested 25 times. It could happen once but dozens? No way. Again, this doesn't justify police brutality, but many of these guys are trouble makers in some way.

There is a reason Rosa Parks was selected to be the test case instead of the two before her, that got arrested for refusing to give up seats

Very nice upstanding citizen who happens to be black, gets gunned down in SC for reaching for his wallet. It barely makes the news.

Thug criminal who attacks cop gets shot in Ferguson, they burn the town down.

Go figure.

The deify the lowest common denominator of the culture

Gray was arrest something like 18 times. Does it mean he should die? NO. But it sure doesn't do his reputation much good. It seems like a lot of those arrested on killing rampages gave up without incident or didn't resist arrest.

Decent people don't have 18 arrests for no reason.

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And yet, they murdered a score of people. Homes killed 17 and wounded 70. That's an incident right there. Frien killed a state trooper and wounded another one. On the run for months. No problems when they arrested him. Even that dude who killed his fiance and best friend ran up on the cop. He's still alive and in jail. The other half of the Boston Bombers? Killed 5 and wounded 300, he sits in a jail awaiting trial.

On the other side, you have black men, some with records, others without, but with a few common factors: Unarmed, and no one was killed, but those young black men were either killed or brutalized for broken tail lights or back child support.

There's an unusual amount of restraint used in the above mentioned cases. Every precaution is used, every preventive measure taken into account. And these dudes are armed and have murdered multiple people. But the cops make sure to follow the rule book to the letter and ensure those murderers get their day in court.

There's something really wrong when you can go on a killing spree and just put your hands up and rest assured the cops won't kill you. But someone like me, reaching for my wallet could actually mean a beatdown or even death.

I thought we had a 3 strikes law. How about after the 10th felony we go ahead and pull the plug on them

reputation really shouldn't have anything to do with how police interact with you.

not really surprised..

If my life is on the line, and you are known felon, you darn skippy its going to affect how I deal with you

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TBH, I think that cops have a hard enough job as it is protecting our cities and it's citizens. I'm all about following the rules when it comes to police interactions. You won't catch me mouthing off because that makes things more complicated. I guess my point is that when you're black, the police tend to handle you more aggressively versus when you're white. I know the crime stats are there, but there should be a line drawn somewhere. Kids and elderly folks are now in the same line of fire. What's next? Going to the nursing home and getting those OG's that used to gang bang back in the 50's?

There's this guy going around giving cops tickets. He checks cops on what he sees as deficiencies in their policing. There's no way a black guy could do this and get away with it.

What a smug aHole.. The cop

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Good point. How many convictions does he have

I would have to go through the MD judiciary website and search back through the records, go through each case and see what actually charges he was ever convicted on. A little caught up on some things at the moment, but I'll dig around there later. Drugs are a way of life in the city. His mother was an addict at some point. The majority of those in the same environment are caught up in gangs or drug trade. They get the boys when they are young, either forcing them to run the drugs with the promise of helping their families, or threatening them to comply. Once you're in, it's very hard to get out. Most of them iirc were distribution charges and maybe a few possession. Typically where the cop would see you loitering on the corner, stop you and say ''I saw X hand a baggy off to X'' but there's no real evidence for it.

Three of the cops in this case are African American. One of the cops involved has an extremely concerning past, and I don't believe he should of ever been a part of the force or near weapons, period. I know many will say this is entirely to do with race, and to some degree it is. Gray was unfairly targeted, profiled, arrested without probable cause for certain reasons (racial profiling is a thing they do on the force), but the behavior across the board of the officers seem more to be of just malice and misconduct. Bad cops are bad cops. I wish the FOP wouldn't protect them and weed out corruption. They do in some ways a real disservice to the good guys at the BPD, of all races.

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It's a sad state of affairs when this place has gone so far downhill, you can't even stir some stank in a Race forum after 6 PM

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It's a sad state of affairs when this place has gone so far downhill, you can't even stir some stank in a Race forum after 6 PM

There are two phases to this situation, before Freddie went in the van, and after he went in the van. Its becoming more important here, because the three black officers were involved in the “after he went into the van” conduct, and the three white officers were involved in the before he went into the van conduct ...

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There are two phases to this situation, before Freddie went in the van, and after he went in the van. Its becoming more important here, because the three black officers were involved in the “after he went into the van” conduct, and the three white officers were involved in the before he went into the van conduct ...

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you know, if you're going to post vague statements like the above..you should really link to where you're getting your info.

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It's a sad state of affairs when this place has gone so far downhill, you can't even stir some stank in a Race forum after 6 PM

i was going to respond to you last night, but when i read that you didn't know any of the facts surrounding the case i figured it's a waste of time to try and discuss something with someone who's formed an opinion of a dead guy without knowing anything about how he died. but yeah, i'd really like for you to tell me what role you believe law enforcement should have in carrying out justice on behalf of the citizens they're to protect..it's kinda rogue to be of the thinking that cops should be tasked with picking people off the street, without cause or warrant, and taking them into the station. should that be a skill hr looks for in new recruits..ESP?

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If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

The liberal elite ... know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable -- and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way."
- A Nation Of Cowards, by Jeffrey R. Snyder

Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama

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