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who says it is unchecked?

We can argue semantics here until the cows/wildebeest/lions/elephants come home. South Africans find it disgusting, I find it disgusting - make of that what you will. And yes I know what they (South African) think.

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We can argue semantics here until the cows/wildebeest/lions/elephants come home. South Africans find it disgusting, I find it disgusting - make of that what you will. And yes I know what they (South African) think.

The hunting industry in South Africa brings in more than $744 million each year. The industry employs about 70,000 people. And about 9,000 trophy hunters travel to South Africa every year. Ninety percent of them come from the United States. In 2012, foreign hunters spent $115 million in South Africa. Trophy hunting is the most profitable form of commercial land use in the country.

Herman Meyeridricks is the president of the Professional HuntersAssociation of South Africa. He argues that legal hunting is important to wildlife protection.

The only way there will be incentive for those landowners to protect and keep on investing in rhino is if they have an economic value. They can only have an economic value if there is an end-user that is willing to pay for that and that is the trophy hunter.

http://learningenglish.voanews.com/content/trophy-hunting-south-africa/2412610.html

An awful lot of folks don't find it disgusting in S Africa

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The hunting industry in South Africa brings in more than $744 million each year. The industry employs about 70,000 people. And about 9,000 trophy hunters travel to South Africa every year. Ninety percent of them come from the United States. In 2012, foreign hunters spent $115 million in South Africa. Trophy hunting is the most profitable form of commercial land use in the country.

Herman Meyeridricks is the president of the Professional HuntersAssociation of South Africa. He argues that legal hunting is important to wildlife protection.

The only way there will be incentive for those landowners to protect and keep on investing in rhino is if they have an economic value. They can only have an economic value if there is an end-user that is willing to pay for that and that is the trophy hunter.

http://learningenglish.voanews.com/content/trophy-hunting-south-africa/2412610.html

An awful lot of folks don't find it disgusting in S Africa

Well apart from them?

My guess is that most have no strong views on the issue.

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Well apart from them?

My guess is that most have no strong views on the issue.

Trophy hunting is the most profitable form of commercial land use in the country.

They would rather people live in poverty

If more citizens were armed, criminals would think twice about attacking them, Detroit Police Chief James Craig

Florida currently has more concealed-carry permit holders than any other state, with 1,269,021 issued as of May 14, 2014

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You are misinformed my friend. When last were you in South Africa? I go regularly. I would not read articles and glean my "facts" from there. I am sorry you are so un-informed.

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You are misinformed my friend. When last were you in South Africa? I go regularly. I would not read articles and glean my "facts" from there. I am sorry you are so un-informed.

How much money does it bring in ?

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Basically similar sort of deal as in the US, vast majority of the population live in cities and have no day to day involvement and unless you ask them no interest.

And the hunting system, fees, money generated pays for the conservation here.

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How much money does it bring in ?

Please call Sabi-Sabi, Phinda, Londolozi, SingIta and many other if you don't believe me. Viewing game is far more lucrative than hunting them.

EDIT: I will no longer be arguing with someone who knows nothing of viewing these magnificant animals in their natural habitats.

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perhaps one should read this before making an opinion.
http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

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perhaps one should read this before making an opinion.

http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

makes you think these folks that are anti hunting would step up and donate a few hundred thousand to their cause every year.

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makes you think these folks that are anti hunting would step up and donate a few hundred thousand to their cause every year.

Not likely!

I have put in for an Elk and a Deer this year, fingers crossed.

I met some guys who managed an Elk on their last day, out of State so paid a fortune for their tag then processing and finally shipment. Hate to think how much a pound that came out.

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I get trophy hunting makes alot of money for conservation. I would rather people just donate money to SEE the animals rather than kill them.

I don't really like hunting when it doesn't equate to food and direct conservation (like controlling the species).

The other thing that bothers me is the hunting is sort of fake. If it was more like - here's your rifle, go walk out into the bush on your own and get your lion, oh and by the way, the lion may eat you and we aren't going to help, I might support that. Life and Death, circle of life sort of thing.

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As I understand it is the same as in the US, a certain number have to be culled, some say like Moose in Colorado the numbers of tags are very small, there is a lot of Elk and Deer around and no natural predators.

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As I understand it is the same as in the US, a certain number have to be culled, some say like Moose in Colorado the numbers of tags are very small, there is a lot of Elk and Deer around and no natural predators.

Lions and especially rhinos and animals in that category are not like elk, moose or impala. They are endangered species. "Hunting" is not necessary, we are not cavemen. We have no reason to stalk and hunt these animals anymore. Anyone who feels they are entitled to do so is laboring under a false, outdated belief. Now you are free to argue with me.

I suppose most of the blood thirsty so-called "hunters" on this thread don't even possess the means to travel to Africa, not to mention the means to "hunt" game. And I am thrilled to know that.

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Just buy a ticket? Expedia?

If you mean paying hundreds of thousand of dollars that is not worth it. Well to most.

Like any other past time, some people spend a lot more than others.

As I understand it these are animals that would be culled anyway, so might as well make the money.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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