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KierenHby   897

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And unfortunately (fairly or not) Vietnam visa applicants don't have a good track record with B2 visas to the US.

But she wont know until she tries and shells out the $165.


Thanks for the correction.

The answer is the same. A J-1 boyfriend paying for her trip is not a strong tie to VN.

agreed

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JacksonNY   0

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And unfortunately (fairly or not) Vietnam visa applicants don't have a good track record with B2 visas to the US.

according to the wikipedia link in my first post and its official source the refusal rates for Vietnam are not that bad.

Actually, they are quite good compared to most other countries. it was different in 2013 though.

@Boiler -- as far as I understand, a J2 is only issued for a "spouse" or your children. As long as we are not married, she wont be able to get a J2, correct?

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Correct

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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The refusal rates according to that link are about the same as Germany and much better than the UK.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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JacksonNY   0

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@Boiler -- I saw that too. First of all UK and Germany have a VWP, so most people can easily travel to the US without B2. Probably, only those who wish to stay longer than VWP allows might want to apply for a B1/B2 (and thus get refused sometimes). also there might be legal foreigners living in Germany and the UK who cant use the VWP but wish to visit the US with a B2 and get refused. But actually the PDF says its by nationality and not by country - so that rules out my last idea.

anyhow, maybe somebody can bring light into that "ADJUSTED REFUSAL RATE" - especially, what ADJUSTED means here. That would be interesting

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@Boiler -- I saw that too. First of all UK and Germany have a VWP, so most people can easily travel to the US without B2. Probably, only those who wish to stay longer than VWP allows might want to apply for a B1/B2 (and thus get refused sometimes). also there might be legal foreigners living in Germany and the UK who cant use the VWP but wish to visit the US with a B2 and get refused. But actually the PDF says its by nationality and not by country - so that rules out my last idea.

anyhow, maybe somebody can bring light into that "ADJUSTED REFUSAL RATE" - especially, what ADJUSTED means here. That would be interesting

That was sort of my point, for the data to be of any use you would need the refusal rate for young single females with no money and no ties.

On here you do not see the average applicant who wants to go to Disney for 2 weeks and has a good job and has to go back.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Probably, only those who wish to stay longer than VWP allows might want to apply for a B1/B2 (and thus get refused sometimes). also there might be legal foreigners living in Germany and the UK who cant use the VWP but wish to visit the US with a B2 and get refused. But actually the PDF says its by nationality and not by country - so that rules out my last idea.

There's also us who abused the VWP in the past who have to try for B-2s (and get refused), and anyone with a criminal history.

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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JacksonNY   0

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Just a feedback to that:

she went to the interview, after some questions she got denied.

they didnt look into any of her documents, especially not my sponsoring documents.

the worst part is however, they didnt even bother to look in her passport.

so her travel history was irrelevant.

very sad.

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I thought that was one of the things you were asked about on your application

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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@Boiler -- I saw that too. First of all UK and Germany have a VWP, so most people can easily travel to the US without B2. Probably, only those who wish to stay longer than VWP allows might want to apply for a B1/B2 (and thus get refused sometimes). also there might be legal foreigners living in Germany and the UK who cant use the VWP but wish to visit the US with a B2 and get refused. But actually the PDF says its by nationality and not by country - so that rules out my last idea.

anyhow, maybe somebody can bring light into that "ADJUSTED REFUSAL RATE" - especially, what ADJUSTED means here. That would be interesting

The adjusted refusal rate accounts for applicants who were originally denied (usually under 221g for missing documents, administrative processing, etc.) but later issued a visa on that same application. There is no adjustment if the person was denied and later applied again, with a new application and a new fee, and is approved. Edited by jan22
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