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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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As someone else who has come from Australia I think if you have a current pending K1 application, I believe it would be taking advantage of the luxuries offered to us by the US to use the VWP as a means to bypass the application process and speed up the adjust process.

By all means you can do this and it would be ok, but don't expect people to be happy or OK with your choice.

My AOS Journey

11/11/14 - POE

12/12/14 - Married

12/15/14 - AOS/EAD Submitted

12/22/14 - NOA 1

01/13/15 - Biometrics

03/20/15 - Notice Of Potential Interview Waiver Received - 6 Month Delay

09/21/15 - NPIW Expired

10/16/15 - Service Request 1 submitted - Local office past my case

10/17/15 - Service Request Response - Currently being adjudicated, No timeline. Please wait

10/19/15 - Contacted Local Congressman. Request Submitted

11/19/15 - Response from congressman. Currently being adjudicated. Please wait. No Timeline

11/27/15 - Letter from Local Field office requesting missing I-693.

12/21/15 - Infopass Appointment regarding notice - I-693 not required for K1 Visa. Officer stated he would request local officer to contact me

12/22/15 - 1 Year since NOA 1

12/29/15 - Had original K1 I-693 medical form transcribed by US panel doctor and submitted to USCIS.

01/06/16 - Service request 2 submitted

01/19/16 - Interview Appointment Received

02/09/16 - Interview - APPROVED

02/12/16 - 2 Year Green Card In Hand

12/26/17 - ROC Submitted

01/08/18 - ROC NOA1 Recieved

10/06/18 - Received 18 Month Extension Letter

01/17/19 - Removal of Conditions - Approved

01/23/19 - Received 10 year Green Card.

 

My Citizenship Journey

12/06/18 - N400 Submitted

12/18/18 - N400 Biometrics Appointment Received

12/26/18 - Biometrics Complete - Expected completion Feb 2020 (13 Months)

04/28/19 - So far lots of USCIS "nothing has changed" bi weekly status update e-mails.

05/07/19 - Received notification that my N400 interview had been scheduled.

05/08/19 - N400 Interview letter was available to view online.

05/13/19 - Received physical copy of N400 interview letter in mail.

06/14/19 - N400 Interview Passed. Recommended for citizenship.

06/22/19 - N400 Approved

07/24/19 - Oath ceremony scheduled

 

 

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As someone else who has come from Australia I think if you have a current pending K1 application, I believe it would be taking advantage of the luxuries offered to us by the US to use the VWP as a means to bypass the application process and speed up the adjust process.

By all means you can do this and it would be ok, but don't expect people to be happy or OK with your choice.

Fortunately USCIS doesn't share your point of view.

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Do it and AOS.

Hi VJ Family! I have a quick, very specific question. My Australian fiancé and I have applied for a K1 visa and are in Texas Service Center purgatory. She's currently in the U.S. visiting me having entered via the Visa Waiver Program. We have lightly toyed with the idea of getting married while she's already here and adjusting for status later. I know people have strong emotions and feelings towards this, but my question is this-- if we get in that interview room and have to defend the fact that she did not enter the country under false pretenses, will the fact that we had a K1 visa application pending be held against us? Does anyone have any specific experience or insights into this? Thank you so much for your help!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Greece
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Somewhat shockingly, a lawyer friend of mine told me that those that come on tourist visas and adjust status can file for Advanced Parole. So if there were any loose ends, they could be tied later..

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***Thread back open. Several posts that were non-responsive to the OP's query have been removed along with posts quoting. Another post that was advocating fraud (a TOS violation) has been removed along with post quoting. Either answer the OP's questions or do not post. Thread bans as well as any additional actions as necessary will be imposed for anymore non-responsive posts in this thread.***

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Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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Who cares that people will be happy or not.

The law allows them to adjust.

If you don't like it, then petition Congress to change the law.

I could not care whether the law lets them adjust or not. If they want to use the system like that then good on them. This is my opinion. I followed the system and waited like everyone else. Other countries do not have the luxury of the VWP, so people like me are extremely thankful to have the VWP and do not abuse such a privilege. People who abuse the VWP to utilize it for something for which it was NEVER intended gives the impression that it's a way to circumvent the requirements, and promoting additional abuse! Edited by TheCaptain

My AOS Journey

11/11/14 - POE

12/12/14 - Married

12/15/14 - AOS/EAD Submitted

12/22/14 - NOA 1

01/13/15 - Biometrics

03/20/15 - Notice Of Potential Interview Waiver Received - 6 Month Delay

09/21/15 - NPIW Expired

10/16/15 - Service Request 1 submitted - Local office past my case

10/17/15 - Service Request Response - Currently being adjudicated, No timeline. Please wait

10/19/15 - Contacted Local Congressman. Request Submitted

11/19/15 - Response from congressman. Currently being adjudicated. Please wait. No Timeline

11/27/15 - Letter from Local Field office requesting missing I-693.

12/21/15 - Infopass Appointment regarding notice - I-693 not required for K1 Visa. Officer stated he would request local officer to contact me

12/22/15 - 1 Year since NOA 1

12/29/15 - Had original K1 I-693 medical form transcribed by US panel doctor and submitted to USCIS.

01/06/16 - Service request 2 submitted

01/19/16 - Interview Appointment Received

02/09/16 - Interview - APPROVED

02/12/16 - 2 Year Green Card In Hand

12/26/17 - ROC Submitted

01/08/18 - ROC NOA1 Recieved

10/06/18 - Received 18 Month Extension Letter

01/17/19 - Removal of Conditions - Approved

01/23/19 - Received 10 year Green Card.

 

My Citizenship Journey

12/06/18 - N400 Submitted

12/18/18 - N400 Biometrics Appointment Received

12/26/18 - Biometrics Complete - Expected completion Feb 2020 (13 Months)

04/28/19 - So far lots of USCIS "nothing has changed" bi weekly status update e-mails.

05/07/19 - Received notification that my N400 interview had been scheduled.

05/08/19 - N400 Interview letter was available to view online.

05/13/19 - Received physical copy of N400 interview letter in mail.

06/14/19 - N400 Interview Passed. Recommended for citizenship.

06/22/19 - N400 Approved

07/24/19 - Oath ceremony scheduled

 

 

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I could not care whether the law lets them adjust or not. If they want to use the system like that then good on them. This is my opinion. I followed the system and waited like everyone else. Other countries do not have the luxury of the VWP, so people like me are extremely thankful to have the VWP and do not abuse such a privilege. People who abuse the VWP to utilize it for something for which it was NEVER intended gives the impression that it's a way to circumvent the requirements, and promoting additional abuse!

You may want to read this thread here: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/542316-aos-from-tourist-visa-threads-being-shut-down/

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Not a VWP issue, vast majority on those entering on non immigrant visas can adjust in these circumstances.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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I could not care whether the law lets them adjust or not. If they want to use the system like that then good on them. This is my opinion. I followed the system and waited like everyone else. Other countries do not have the luxury of the VWP, so people like me are extremely thankful to have the VWP and do not abuse such a privilege. People who abuse the VWP to utilize it for something for which it was NEVER intended gives the impression that it's a way to circumvent the requirements, and promoting additional abuse!

Where is the abuse when the law allows them to adjust?

Lots of things in the law is unintended. The 401(k) for example.

Please explain how it's abuse when the law specifically (Matter of Battista & Matter of Cavazos) allows for the adjustment?

As you stated, you don't care whether the law allows them to adjust or not. You seem hurt that someone is getting here faster than the way you did it.

Jealousy is an ugly thing.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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How is any of this speculation answering the OPs question?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Four more posts have been removed and two members have been thread-banned, for violating the previous moderation directive herein. Two of the four post-removals were for quoting the removed material.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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How is any of this speculation answering the OPs question?

The OP's question has already been answered by the BIA in Matter of Battista and Matter of Cavazos.

They can adjust and immigrant intent alone does not matter.

The rest of the discussion is how many are butttt hurt that someone else is getting here faster than them or their love ones.

The law has a way to deal with people adjusting from the VWP. People are buttt hurt that the government allows them to adjust rather than punish them for "abusing the VWP."

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Hi VJ Family! I have a quick, very specific question. My Australian fiancé and I have applied for a K1 visa and are in Texas Service Center purgatory. She's currently in the U.S. visiting me having entered via the Visa Waiver Program. We have lightly toyed with the idea of getting married while she's already here and adjusting for status later. I know people have strong emotions and feelings towards this, but my question is this-- if we get in that interview room and have to defend the fact that she did not enter the country under false pretenses, will the fact that we had a K1 visa application pending be held against us? Does anyone have any specific experience or insights into this? Thank you so much for your help!

TB

People change their minds and things can be decided in a moment.

I would think that the fact you kave K1 actually does help prove that this was a sudden decision.

However, the logistics might be tricky, since AOS will take some time to get travel documentation and your spouse will be stuck here until that is processed. In the meantime, jobs, family and stuff down under will have to be on the side.

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No advice about if its allowed. But we filed for K1 visa in april 2014 - in may 2014 I found out my old job in the US was available again I applied and got it. I got a L1 visa to work in the us for the next 3 years. We moved in august 2014. Got married in october 2014 and filed for the AOS a few weeks ago. I know its not the same - but my personal believe (not backed up by proof) is that since our marriage is genuine( we have 2 kids together , lived in canada for the past 3 years together) we will not have an issue getting approved. if I don't get approved then there is something wrong with the system. I personally would check in your proof of genuine marriage if its strong - don't worry about marrying now and going the AOS route. But again this my personal opinion not law.

03/18/15: Send application

03/22/15: Application received

03/25/15: NOA 1 emails/texts

04/13/15: biomnetrics appointment letter

04/16/15: successful biometrics appointment

06/10/15: Received email - EAD picked up by post office!

06/11/15: Received EAD

06/18/15: Received interview notice in the mail for July 20th 2015 (was send on 06/12/15)

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