The true Gaza story that Israelis are hiding

[mota bhai 2,675]

The true Gaza story that Israelis are hiding
By Robert Fisk

Now for the Gaza story you won’t be hearing from anyone else.

It’s about land. The Israelis of Sederot are coming under rocket fire from the Palestinians of Gaza and now the Palestinians are getting their comeuppance. Sure. But wait, how come all those Palestinians — all 1.5 million — are crammed into Gaza in the first place?

Well, their families once lived, didn’t they, in what is now called Israel? And got chucked out — or fled for their lives — when the Israeli state was created.

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The people who lived in Sederot in early 1948 were not Israelis, but Palestinian Arabs. Their village was called Huj. Nor were they enemies of Israel. Two years earlier, these same Arabs had actually hidden Jewish Haganah fighters from the British Army. But when the Israeli army turned up at Huj on May 31, 1948, they expelled all the Arab villagers — to the Gaza Strip!

Refugees, they became. David Ben Gurion (Israel’s first prime minister) called it an “unjust and unjustified action”.

Too bad. The Palestinians of Huj were never allowed back.

And today, well over 6,000 descendants of the Palestinians from Huj — now Sederot — live in the squalor of Gaza, among the “terrorists” Israel is claiming to destroy and who are shooting at what was Huj. Interesting story.

And same again for Israel’s right to self-defence. We heard it again this week. What if the people of London were being rocketed like the people of Israel? Wouldn’t they strike back? Well yes, but we Brits don’t have more than a million former inhabitants of the UK cooped up in refugee camps over a few square miles around Hastings.

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And now let’s cross to the West Bank. First of all, Benjamin Netanyahu said he couldn’t talk to Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas because he didn’t also represent Hamas. Then when Abbas formed a unity government, Netanyahu said he couldn’t talk to Abbas because he had unified himself with the “terrorist” Hamas. Now he says he can only talk to him if he breaks with Hamas — even though he won’t then represent Hamas.

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Meanwhile, that great leftist Israeli philosopher Uri Avnery — 90 years old and still, thankfully, going strong — has picked up on his country’s latest obsession: the danger that Isis will storm west from its Iraqi/Syrian “caliphate” and arrive on the east bank of the Jordan river.

“And Netanyahu said,” according to Avnery, “if they are not stopped by the permanent Israeli garrison there (on the Jordan river), they will appear at the gates of Tel Aviv.” The truth, of course, is that the Israeli air force would have crushed Isis the moment it dared to cross the Jordanian border from Iraq or Syria.

The importance of this, however, is that if Israel keeps its army on the Jordan (to protect Israel from Isis), a future “Palestine” state will have no borders and will be an enclave within Israel, surrounded on all sides by Israeli-held territory.

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Even more to the point, if Isis is heading towards the edge of the West Bank, why is the Israeli government still building colonies there - illegally, and on Arab land - for Israeli civilians?

This is not just about the foul murder of three Israelis in occupied West Bank or the foul murder of a Palestinian in occupied East Jerusalem. Nor about the arrest of many Hamas militants and politicians in the West Bank. Nor about rockets. As usual, it’s about land.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1118204/

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The true Gaza story that Israelis are hiding

By Robert Fisk

Now for the Gaza story you won’t be hearing from anyone else.

It’s about land. The Israelis of Sederot are coming under rocket fire from the Palestinians of Gaza and now the Palestinians are getting their comeuppance. Sure. But wait, how come all those Palestinians — all 1.5 million — are crammed into Gaza in the first place?

Well, their families once lived, didn’t they, in what is now called Israel? And got chucked out — or fled for their lives — when the Israeli state was created.

...

The people who lived in Sederot in early 1948 were not Israelis, but Palestinian Arabs. Their village was called Huj. Nor were they enemies of Israel. Two years earlier, these same Arabs had actually hidden Jewish Haganah fighters from the British Army. But when the Israeli army turned up at Huj on May 31, 1948, they expelled all the Arab villagers — to the Gaza Strip!

Refugees, they became. David Ben Gurion (Israel’s first prime minister) called it an “unjust and unjustified action”.

Too bad. The Palestinians of Huj were never allowed back.

And today, well over 6,000 descendants of the Palestinians from Huj — now Sederot — live in the squalor of Gaza, among the “terrorists” Israel is claiming to destroy and who are shooting at what was Huj. Interesting story.

And same again for Israel’s right to self-defence. We heard it again this week. What if the people of London were being rocketed like the people of Israel? Wouldn’t they strike back? Well yes, but we Brits don’t have more than a million former inhabitants of the UK cooped up in refugee camps over a few square miles around Hastings.

...

And now let’s cross to the West Bank. First of all, Benjamin Netanyahu said he couldn’t talk to Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas because he didn’t also represent Hamas. Then when Abbas formed a unity government, Netanyahu said he couldn’t talk to Abbas because he had unified himself with the “terrorist” Hamas. Now he says he can only talk to him if he breaks with Hamas — even though he won’t then represent Hamas.

...

Meanwhile, that great leftist Israeli philosopher Uri Avnery — 90 years old and still, thankfully, going strong — has picked up on his country’s latest obsession: the danger that Isis will storm west from its Iraqi/Syrian “caliphate” and arrive on the east bank of the Jordan river.

“And Netanyahu said,” according to Avnery, “if they are not stopped by the permanent Israeli garrison there (on the Jordan river), they will appear at the gates of Tel Aviv.” The truth, of course, is that the Israeli air force would have crushed Isis the moment it dared to cross the Jordanian border from Iraq or Syria.

The importance of this, however, is that if Israel keeps its army on the Jordan (to protect Israel from Isis), a future “Palestine” state will have no borders and will be an enclave within Israel, surrounded on all sides by Israeli-held territory.

...

Even more to the point, if Isis is heading towards the edge of the West Bank, why is the Israeli government still building colonies there - illegally, and on Arab land - for Israeli civilians?

This is not just about the foul murder of three Israelis in occupied West Bank or the foul murder of a Palestinian in occupied East Jerusalem. Nor about the arrest of many Hamas militants and politicians in the West Bank. Nor about rockets. As usual, it’s about land.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1118204/

Revisionist history by a biased know-nothing. Please get your history from respected sources. It is very complicated. That area was predominantly Jewish first. And how could Israelis have been living on the land in 1948 when the country was formed in 1948?

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Edited July 10, 2014 by Kathryn41

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I believe the writer, is far from a no-nothing.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

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WOW. I really don't have a dog in the fight, but if you had made that statement about almost any other wide demographic i.e Muslims, minorities etc. You would be on a long time out .

Edited July 10, 2014 by Kathryn41

[mota bhai 2,675]

WOW. I really don't have a dog in the fight, but if you had made that statement about almost any other wide demographic i.e Muslims, minorities etc. You would be on a long time out .

VJ is run by Muslims and Communists, neither of whom like Jews very much.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

VJ is run by Muslims and Communists, neither of whom like Jews very much.

don't forget blood thirsty Caba chicks

VJ is run by Muslims and Communists, neither of whom like Jews very much.

Must be cause I have seen less earn people long term bans

[mota bhai 2,675]

Must be cause I have seen less earn people long term bans

VJ today resembles, in many ways, the early years of the Third Reich.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

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As spelled out at the end of the second paragraph of page #1 of Mein Kampf (if memory serves correctly) that we were discussing yesterday.

Edited July 10, 2014 by Kathryn41

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

VJ today resembles, in many ways, the early years of the Third Reich.

So does America

[mota bhai 2,675]

So does America

VJ is more important.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Many Jewish people are anti-Zionist . Get with it.

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[The Nature Boy 4,224]

VJ today resembles, in many ways, the early years of the Third Reich.

I guess. It did not even earn a thread ban it appears. I have gotten 3 days for way less, when it came to one of the largest religions in the world.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I guess. It did not even earn a thread ban it appears. I have gotten 3 days for way less, when it came to one of the largest religions in the world.

Why do you give a dusty fuque?

[Jacque67 7,328]

I guess. It did not even earn a thread ban it appears. I have gotten 3 days for way less, when it came to one of the largest religions in the world.

I was not attacking a religion. FYI Zionism is not a religion.

http://rense.com/general68/releig.htm

Thanks for keeping tabs though;)