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I have a quick question that I am not 100% on.

First a little background on the situation:

My fiancee (the beneficiary) lives in England, and we are trying to get everything prepared for when we get approval from USCIS. I am sure we still have a few months minimum before that day, but we have a small issue that I want to make sure won't become a problem.

She moved in with her parents after we got engaged, to prepare for our visit, and we assumed that they'd still be there as they've lived there for many years (She grew up in that place). Recently, circumstances with ownership changed (they rent) and they may be forced to move in the near future.

My question is two-fold.

First, we are wanting to get the police certificate sorted, does moving after she gets the police certificate affect it's validity at all?

Second, does USCIS send a packet to the beneficiary after approval or only to the embassy? If they do send to the beneficiary, is it a simple process to change her address in case it needs to be changed really close to the NOA2 date?

Last thing I want is for us to get approved only to find out the police certificate isn't valid or her packet gets mailed to the wrong place or something like that.

Thanks in advance for any answers.


FILE FOR K-1 Adjustment of Status Removal of Conditions

January 31.2010 - Met Online April 10, 2014 - Mailed in I-485 + I-765 March 19, 2016 - Mailed I-751 to CSC

February 20, 2011 - Met in Person April 14, 2014 - Forms arrived at Chicago Lockbox March 23, 2016 - I-751 arrived at CSC

July 28, 2012 - Engaged April 17, 2014 - Acceptance email arrived stating case forwarded to NBC March 23, 2016 - NOA1 Date (received March 28)

February 5, 2013 - Mailed I-129F to Lewisville, TX April 27, 2014 - Received letter for Biometrics appointment April 20, 2016 - Biometrics scheduled (incomplete due to dry cracked skin)

February 6, 2013 - USPS Receipt/Delivered I-129F April 28, 2014 - Received Acceptance NOA1 hard copies for AOS and EAD May 13, 2016 - Walk in Biometrics Completed

February 8, 2013 - NOA1 Notice Date May 12, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment Done September 27, 2016 - ROC Approved (Checked status via website w/receipt #)

February 11, 2013 - Bank shows check cashed today May 15, 2014 - Interview Schedule Letter (received May 17, 2014) October 6, 2016 - Card Arrived

February 11, 2013 - E-Mail Notification of Case Acceptance and June 5, 2014 - Interview Scheduled at Local office 8:15 a.m.

Case Number (Routed to California Service Center) June 11, 2014 - USCIS Status updated to show Greencard in the mail

February 12, 2013 - E Mail Notification of Alien Registration Number Change w/USPS tracking showing it scheduled to arrive

February 15, 2013 - Hard Copy NOA1 received June 14, 2014

June 5, 2013 - Email notice of RFE June 13, 2014 - GreenCard arrived

June 6, 2013 - RFE postmarked

June 10, 2013 - RFE arrived in the mail

June 11, 2013 - RFE mailed back Express USPS

June 12, 2013 - RFE received @ CSC / USCIS website updated to reflect this

June 20, 2013 - I-129F Approved

June 24, 2013 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

June 28, 2013 - NVC Assigned Case Number

July 2, 2013 - NVC shipped case to London

July 9, 2013 - London Received Case File

July 13, 2013 - Packet 3 Instructions Received

July 17, 2013 - Packet 3 Forms Mailed (Except DS-2001)

July 30, 2013 - DS-2001 sent (arrived July 31)

July 30, 2013 - Medical Scheduled (and completed w/no issues)

August 5th - Medical Results Logged in

August 8th - DS-2001 Logged in

August 20, 2013 - Interview Date Set

September 17, 2013 - Interview at 8:00 a.m. (APPROVED)

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October 8, 2013 - POE Las Vegas, NV

October 11, 2013 - Married

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My question is two-fold.

First, we are wanting to get the police certificate sorted, does moving after she gets the police certificate affect it's validity at all?

Second, does USCIS send a packet to the beneficiary after approval or only to the embassy? If they do send to the beneficiary, is it a simple process to change her address in case it needs to be changed really close to the NOA2 date?

Last thing I want is for us to get approved only to find out the police certificate isn't valid or her packet gets mailed to the wrong place or something like that.

Thanks in advance for any answers.

Nothing new to do for the police certificate if she moves, unless it's to another country.

There is no packet. USCIS mails her nothing. The Embassy mails her a letter. Read about it here http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/350185-london-2012-k1s-from-noa2-to-interview-thread/?p=5137390

See what the letter looks like and says here http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/350185-london-2012-k1s-from-noa2-to-interview-thread/?p=5180175

I wouldn't even bother to try a last minute change of address. It'll probably get screwed up anyway. She doesn't need that letter. Print off Dan's copy for her reference. The letter lets her know London is ready for her to send in forms. You can get that same bit of information by calling the Dept of State and asking if London has logged your file (the whole file that comes from USCIS). If it is logged, then proceed sending in her London forms.

Meanwhile fill out all forms for London with the new address. They will send her interview letter to the (new) address on her forms. She needs the interview letter to get in the door (but there are ways around that too).

DOS 202-663-1225 press 1, then 0

Either of you can call. It's a US number. They can find your info by using your WAC or LND number. If you did t get the LND number from the NVC, they can tell you your new case number.


England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Thanks for the reply. I thought about my wording of the packet question after I'd submitted it, and thought I might have been thinking of the letter sent by the embassy, but wasn't 100% so figured I'd just leave it as is.

We are hoping they don't have to move until it's all said and done, but that may be out of our hands. I guess it should be ok, as long as they don't move during the embassy portion of the process. Seems like that would be the worst timing for it.

Do you think it would be feasible to use a friend or nearby relative at the embassy stage in case they may be in process of moving and not have a new address? In other words is any address ok on the forms she fills out for the embassy, or does it absolutely have to be where she lives?


FILE FOR K-1 Adjustment of Status Removal of Conditions

January 31.2010 - Met Online April 10, 2014 - Mailed in I-485 + I-765 March 19, 2016 - Mailed I-751 to CSC

February 20, 2011 - Met in Person April 14, 2014 - Forms arrived at Chicago Lockbox March 23, 2016 - I-751 arrived at CSC

July 28, 2012 - Engaged April 17, 2014 - Acceptance email arrived stating case forwarded to NBC March 23, 2016 - NOA1 Date (received March 28)

February 5, 2013 - Mailed I-129F to Lewisville, TX April 27, 2014 - Received letter for Biometrics appointment April 20, 2016 - Biometrics scheduled (incomplete due to dry cracked skin)

February 6, 2013 - USPS Receipt/Delivered I-129F April 28, 2014 - Received Acceptance NOA1 hard copies for AOS and EAD May 13, 2016 - Walk in Biometrics Completed

February 8, 2013 - NOA1 Notice Date May 12, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment Done September 27, 2016 - ROC Approved (Checked status via website w/receipt #)

February 11, 2013 - Bank shows check cashed today May 15, 2014 - Interview Schedule Letter (received May 17, 2014) October 6, 2016 - Card Arrived

February 11, 2013 - E-Mail Notification of Case Acceptance and June 5, 2014 - Interview Scheduled at Local office 8:15 a.m.

Case Number (Routed to California Service Center) June 11, 2014 - USCIS Status updated to show Greencard in the mail

February 12, 2013 - E Mail Notification of Alien Registration Number Change w/USPS tracking showing it scheduled to arrive

February 15, 2013 - Hard Copy NOA1 received June 14, 2014

June 5, 2013 - Email notice of RFE June 13, 2014 - GreenCard arrived

June 6, 2013 - RFE postmarked

June 10, 2013 - RFE arrived in the mail

June 11, 2013 - RFE mailed back Express USPS

June 12, 2013 - RFE received @ CSC / USCIS website updated to reflect this

June 20, 2013 - I-129F Approved

June 24, 2013 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

June 28, 2013 - NVC Assigned Case Number

July 2, 2013 - NVC shipped case to London

July 9, 2013 - London Received Case File

July 13, 2013 - Packet 3 Instructions Received

July 17, 2013 - Packet 3 Forms Mailed (Except DS-2001)

July 30, 2013 - DS-2001 sent (arrived July 31)

July 30, 2013 - Medical Scheduled (and completed w/no issues)

August 5th - Medical Results Logged in

August 8th - DS-2001 Logged in

August 20, 2013 - Interview Date Set

September 17, 2013 - Interview at 8:00 a.m. (APPROVED)

Waiting for VISA...

September 25, 2013 - Visa Delivered

October 8, 2013 - POE Las Vegas, NV

October 11, 2013 - Married

October 13th - HOME

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Thanks for the reply. I thought about my wording of the packet question after I'd submitted it, and thought I might have been thinking of the letter sent by the embassy, but wasn't 100% so figured I'd just leave it as is.

We are hoping they don't have to move until it's all said and done, but that may be out of our hands. I guess it should be ok, as long as they don't move during the embassy portion of the process. Seems like that would be the worst timing for it.

Do you think it would be feasible to use a friend or nearby relative at the embassy stage in case they may be in process of moving and not have a new address? In other words is any address ok on the forms she fills out for the embassy, or does it absolutely have to be where she lives?

Moving in the middle of the process is always a pain and ups the chance for things to go to the wrong places. I would go with the real family address. It's asked for in terms of how long you have lived there (from [date] to [date] ) and other biographical info. If she has to move between forms and interview, call the embassy to make the change. It'll cost per minute to call them, but a price she'll have to pay if the move happens at the wrong time.

Another work around is DOS will also know when her interview is scheduled. If she absolutely fails to get the interview letter she will still know the date and time by calling DOS (no charge for them to talk to you). The embassy can email her interview confirmation if she pays to call them again reporting letter was confirmed sent but not received.

If that fails, the guy at the head of the security line outside the embassy will have her name on his list and should let her in if she explains her attempts to get the address changed and that she never got her letter.

It all really depends on the timing of the move. Most people don't wake up one morning and move out of their long established home with no prior planning. If they know the move is going to happen for sure within a week or two of sending forms, then hold off the forms. Or send the forms and hold off the DS-2001 and put a big 'ol ATTENTION : I have moved, in the cover letter.


England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Thanks again.

We are hoping they are able to stay. Basically the situation is that the owner of the place they are renting passed away and the family who inherited it are talking about selling it. If they do sell it, it's likely they would have to move. It's all out of their hands at the moment and we really don't know if or when it will happen. I just want to be prepared and try to stay ahead of the problems that may be incurred.

Again, I can't thank you enough for your replies. Your posts have been the most helpful of anyone specific to the UK journey and it really is appreciated by those of us working our way through the system. I'm getting a pretty good handle on this side of things, but the UK side is more confusing for me since I've never had any dealings with their government and have only even been to the UK one time.


FILE FOR K-1 Adjustment of Status Removal of Conditions

January 31.2010 - Met Online April 10, 2014 - Mailed in I-485 + I-765 March 19, 2016 - Mailed I-751 to CSC

February 20, 2011 - Met in Person April 14, 2014 - Forms arrived at Chicago Lockbox March 23, 2016 - I-751 arrived at CSC

July 28, 2012 - Engaged April 17, 2014 - Acceptance email arrived stating case forwarded to NBC March 23, 2016 - NOA1 Date (received March 28)

February 5, 2013 - Mailed I-129F to Lewisville, TX April 27, 2014 - Received letter for Biometrics appointment April 20, 2016 - Biometrics scheduled (incomplete due to dry cracked skin)

February 6, 2013 - USPS Receipt/Delivered I-129F April 28, 2014 - Received Acceptance NOA1 hard copies for AOS and EAD May 13, 2016 - Walk in Biometrics Completed

February 8, 2013 - NOA1 Notice Date May 12, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment Done September 27, 2016 - ROC Approved (Checked status via website w/receipt #)

February 11, 2013 - Bank shows check cashed today May 15, 2014 - Interview Schedule Letter (received May 17, 2014) October 6, 2016 - Card Arrived

February 11, 2013 - E-Mail Notification of Case Acceptance and June 5, 2014 - Interview Scheduled at Local office 8:15 a.m.

Case Number (Routed to California Service Center) June 11, 2014 - USCIS Status updated to show Greencard in the mail

February 12, 2013 - E Mail Notification of Alien Registration Number Change w/USPS tracking showing it scheduled to arrive

February 15, 2013 - Hard Copy NOA1 received June 14, 2014

June 5, 2013 - Email notice of RFE June 13, 2014 - GreenCard arrived

June 6, 2013 - RFE postmarked

June 10, 2013 - RFE arrived in the mail

June 11, 2013 - RFE mailed back Express USPS

June 12, 2013 - RFE received @ CSC / USCIS website updated to reflect this

June 20, 2013 - I-129F Approved

June 24, 2013 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

June 28, 2013 - NVC Assigned Case Number

July 2, 2013 - NVC shipped case to London

July 9, 2013 - London Received Case File

July 13, 2013 - Packet 3 Instructions Received

July 17, 2013 - Packet 3 Forms Mailed (Except DS-2001)

July 30, 2013 - DS-2001 sent (arrived July 31)

July 30, 2013 - Medical Scheduled (and completed w/no issues)

August 5th - Medical Results Logged in

August 8th - DS-2001 Logged in

August 20, 2013 - Interview Date Set

September 17, 2013 - Interview at 8:00 a.m. (APPROVED)

Waiting for VISA...

September 25, 2013 - Visa Delivered

October 8, 2013 - POE Las Vegas, NV

October 11, 2013 - Married

October 13th - HOME

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One thing I might mention about the Police Certificate is it's valid for 12 months. Therefore, I would suggest that she orders it now. She would have to provide 2 pieces of 'official' correspondence with her address on it to prove that she lives there. If she moves with her parents, that might be more difficult in the short term.

I speak from experience When I applied for my PC, I had just moved in with a friend after selling my flat. She had to provide 2 pieces of correspondence and a letter to say she was my landlady and why I couldn't provide the required correspondence. In your situation, it may be even more difficult as your fiancee and her parents would be moving at the same time.

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One thing I might mention about the Police Certificate is it's valid for 12 months. Therefore, I would suggest that she orders it now. She would have to provide 2 pieces of 'official' correspondence with her address on it to prove that she lives there. If she moves with her parents, that might be more difficult in the short term.

I speak from experience When I applied for my PC, I had just moved in with a friend after selling my flat. She had to provide 2 pieces of correspondence and a letter to say she was my landlady and why I couldn't provide the required correspondence. In your situation, it may be even more difficult as your fiancee and her parents would be moving at the same time.

Thanks for the information.

We were already looking at ordering the Police Certificate now, and that was part of what prompted my questions. I wasn't sure if it would affect it's validity if she moved to a new address. Knowing it will still be valid even after the move (within the same UK, same town most likely) made that decision rather simple. Hearing your experience makes it a little more important to hurry and get it done before it becomes more complicated. Thanks again


FILE FOR K-1 Adjustment of Status Removal of Conditions

January 31.2010 - Met Online April 10, 2014 - Mailed in I-485 + I-765 March 19, 2016 - Mailed I-751 to CSC

February 20, 2011 - Met in Person April 14, 2014 - Forms arrived at Chicago Lockbox March 23, 2016 - I-751 arrived at CSC

July 28, 2012 - Engaged April 17, 2014 - Acceptance email arrived stating case forwarded to NBC March 23, 2016 - NOA1 Date (received March 28)

February 5, 2013 - Mailed I-129F to Lewisville, TX April 27, 2014 - Received letter for Biometrics appointment April 20, 2016 - Biometrics scheduled (incomplete due to dry cracked skin)

February 6, 2013 - USPS Receipt/Delivered I-129F April 28, 2014 - Received Acceptance NOA1 hard copies for AOS and EAD May 13, 2016 - Walk in Biometrics Completed

February 8, 2013 - NOA1 Notice Date May 12, 2014 - Biometrics Appointment Done September 27, 2016 - ROC Approved (Checked status via website w/receipt #)

February 11, 2013 - Bank shows check cashed today May 15, 2014 - Interview Schedule Letter (received May 17, 2014) October 6, 2016 - Card Arrived

February 11, 2013 - E-Mail Notification of Case Acceptance and June 5, 2014 - Interview Scheduled at Local office 8:15 a.m.

Case Number (Routed to California Service Center) June 11, 2014 - USCIS Status updated to show Greencard in the mail

February 12, 2013 - E Mail Notification of Alien Registration Number Change w/USPS tracking showing it scheduled to arrive

February 15, 2013 - Hard Copy NOA1 received June 14, 2014

June 5, 2013 - Email notice of RFE June 13, 2014 - GreenCard arrived

June 6, 2013 - RFE postmarked

June 10, 2013 - RFE arrived in the mail

June 11, 2013 - RFE mailed back Express USPS

June 12, 2013 - RFE received @ CSC / USCIS website updated to reflect this

June 20, 2013 - I-129F Approved

June 24, 2013 - NOA2 Hard Copy Received

June 28, 2013 - NVC Assigned Case Number

July 2, 2013 - NVC shipped case to London

July 9, 2013 - London Received Case File

July 13, 2013 - Packet 3 Instructions Received

July 17, 2013 - Packet 3 Forms Mailed (Except DS-2001)

July 30, 2013 - DS-2001 sent (arrived July 31)

July 30, 2013 - Medical Scheduled (and completed w/no issues)

August 5th - Medical Results Logged in

August 8th - DS-2001 Logged in

August 20, 2013 - Interview Date Set

September 17, 2013 - Interview at 8:00 a.m. (APPROVED)

Waiting for VISA...

September 25, 2013 - Visa Delivered

October 8, 2013 - POE Las Vegas, NV

October 11, 2013 - Married

October 13th - HOME

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