Jesus was born years earlier than thought, claims Pope

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The entire Christian calendar is based on a miscalculation, the Pope has declared, as he claims in a new book that Jesus was born several years earlier than commonly believed.

The 'mistake' was made by a sixth century monk known as Dionysius Exiguus or in English Dennis the Small, the 85-year-old pontiff claims in the book 'Jesus of Nazareth: The Infancy Narratives', published on Wednesday.

"The calculation of the beginning of our calendar – based on the birth of Jesus – was made by Dionysius Exiguus, who made a mistake in his calculations by several years," the Pope writes in the book, which went on sale around the world with an initial print run of a million copies.

"The actual date of Jesus's birth was several years before."

The assertion that the Christian calendar is based on a false premise is not new – many historians believe that Christ was born sometime between 7BC and 2BC.

But the fact that doubts over one of the keystones of Christian tradition have been raised by the leader of the world's one billion Catholics is striking.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9693576/Jesus-was-born-years-earlier-than-thought-claims-Pope.html

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The entire Christian calendar is based on a miscalculation, the Pope has declared, as he claims in a new book that Jesus was born several years earlier than commonly believed.

The 'mistake' was made by a sixth century monk known as Dionysius Exiguus or in English Dennis the Small, the 85-year-old pontiff claims in the book 'Jesus of Nazareth: The Infancy Narratives', published on Wednesday.

"The calculation of the beginning of our calendar – based on the birth of Jesus – was made by Dionysius Exiguus, who made a mistake in his calculations by several years," the Pope writes in the book, which went on sale around the world with an initial print run of a million copies.

"The actual date of Jesus's birth was several years before."

The assertion that the Christian calendar is based on a false premise is not new – many historians believe that Christ was born sometime between 7BC and 2BC.

But the fact that doubts over one of the keystones of Christian tradition have been raised by the leader of the world's one billion Catholics is striking.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9693576/Jesus-was-born-years-earlier-than-thought-claims-Pope.html

I knew this when I was 10. lol.

Leave it to the media to hype it up, though. It's not a keystone to Christian tradition, though. It was merely an educated guess. "Keystones to Christian traditions" imply that this is somehow key to understanding the Christian faith. It isn't.

Edited November 21, 2012 by bsd058

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Jesus was not born on December 25 either. The Roman Census would have been conducted after the first of Spring, not at the start of winter, when it would be difficult to travel.

[웃 910]

The bottom line is a God lived back then. His name, Jesus. If you do not believe it then I feel sorry for you after you die!

[sly_wolf 199]

Jesus was not born on December 25 either. The Roman Census would have been conducted after the first of Spring, not at the start of winter, when it would be difficult to travel.

I wanna see a birth certificate.

[zahrasalem 114]

The bottom line is a God lived back then. His name, Jesus. If you do not believe it then I feel sorry for you after you die!

Jesus was a great human prophet, not God. God never had and doesn't have a human body or presence, so how could God be the same as Jesus (a human).

Ma'a Salama

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Jesus was a great human prophet, not God. God never had and doesn't have a human body or presence, so how could God be the same as Jesus (a human).

Ma'a Salama

Source?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I believe in one God, the Father almighty,

maker of heaven and earth,

of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,

the Only Begotten Son of God,

born of the Father before all ages.

God from God, Light from Light,

true God from true God,

begotten, not made, consubstantial

with the Father;

Through him all things were made.

For us men and for our salvation

he came down from heaven,

and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate

of the Virgin Mary,

and became man.

For our sake he was crucified

under Pontius Pilate,

he suffered death and was buried,

and rose again on the third day

in accordance with the Scriptures.

He ascended into heaven

and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory

to judge the living and the dead

and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,

the Lord, the giver of life,

who proceeds from the Father and the Son,

who with the Father and the Son

is adored and glorified,

who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic,

and apostolic Church.

I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins

and I look forward to the resurrection

of the dead and the life of the world to come.

Amen.

[웃 910]

Jesus was a great human prophet, not God. God never had and doesn't have a human body or presence, so how could God be the same as Jesus (a human).

Ma'a Salama

Source?

1.5 billion Muslims.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

1.5 billion Muslims.

So they know more than the Christians?

[zahrasalem 114]

Source?

Source of what? That Jesus existed and he was a human? All 3 major religious holy books in Islam, Christianity and Judaism beleive Jesus existed as a human being. He lived and died as a human who was a great prophet.

I'm not here to be convinced otherwise and I'm not here to convince anyone of anything they don't want to beleive.

Peace

So they know more than the Christians?

Not necessarily more, but it's logic and common sense.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Jeremiah! Now there was a prophet!

[JoBri 545]

"one of the keystones of Christian tradition"? Huh? You...or whoever...better think again.

[quote name=' timestamp='1353540351' post='5836393]

The entire Christian calendar is based on a miscalculation, the Pope has declared, as he claims in a new book that Jesus was born several years earlier than commonly believed.

The 'mistake' was made by a sixth century monk known as Dionysius Exiguus or in English Dennis the Small, the 85-year-old pontiff claims in the book 'Jesus of Nazareth: The Infancy Narratives', published on Wednesday.

"The calculation of the beginning of our calendar – based on the birth of Jesus – was made by Dionysius Exiguus, who made a mistake in his calculations by several years," the Pope writes in the book, which went on sale around the world with an initial print run of a million copies.

"The actual date of Jesus's birth was several years before."

The assertion that the Christian calendar is based on a false premise is not new – many historians believe that Christ was born sometime between 7BC and 2BC.

But the fact that doubts over one of the keystones of Christian tradition have been raised by the leader of the world's one billion Catholics is striking.

http://www.telegraph...laims-Pope.html

[Pooky 3,348]

Must be a slow news millenium

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Source of what? That Jesus existed and he was a human? All 3 major religious holy books in Islam, Christianity and Judaism beleive Jesus existed as a human being. He lived and died as a human who was a great prophet.

I'm not here to be convinced otherwise and I'm not here to convince anyone of anything they don't want to beleive.

Not necessarily more, but it's logic and common sense.

No disrespect intended, but why is Mohammad considered a greater prophet than Jesus?