Relationship evidence for K1

[*Gi* 0]

When my fiancée submitted the I-129F he sent only a U.S. birth certificate of our daughter to prove our relationship.

Also,he submitted only his U.S. birth certificate not the passport coz what he read from the I-129F instruction it says we can send either birth certificate or passport.

- Will it be enough or you think CSC going to ask for more evidence?

Thanks.

[amykathleen2005 441]

You'll probably need more.

[Lalo & Susana 50]

You are supposed to prove you met within the last two years. Did he send any passport stamps, itineraries, boarding passes, anything like that? They do not care whether or not you two have a child. The I-129F packet requires that you two have met within the last two years. If you did not send in any of that information then unfortunately you will receive an RFE. Later on in the interview process having a child will def help you but as for the first stage the thing they really care about is whether or not you've met within the last two years.

This was taken directly from VJ guidelines.

Documentary Proof of Having Met in Person in the Past Two Years and an Ongoing Relationship:

Use as many of these items are possible. There is no minimum, but the more you can provide the less likely you are that you will receive an RFE. Additionally, please note that providing proof of your ongoing and genuine relationship in this package may benefit you by allowing the consulate to have access to this information prior to them formally contacting the non US Citizen fiance. Many high risk consulates approach cases with a skeptical eye and providing this information early on in the original I-129F package will help them in their preliminary review of your case.

1. Copies of all airline boarding passes, train passes, itineraries, hotel receipts, passport stamps (make sure you can read the dates on the stamps), and other documentary evidence that you have met within the last two years. You may want to highlight or place post-it notes indicating the dates and locations on the copies (to make the adjudication easier) for the person reviewing your file.

2. Color Photo's of you and your fiance(e) together. Make sure you write your names, date, and location on the back of every photo. Provide two to five photo's. If you only have a single copy of the photo, then make a color copy and send that. If it is a digital photo, have it printed at a company such as kodakgallery.com. You can also make duplicates of photo's at your local photo store (Walgreeens, CVS, etc). Place photo's in a plastic bag or photo sheet and label the sheet. Note that you may not receive originals of photo's back.

3. The following items will not typically show proof of having met in the last two years however will show proof of an ongoing relationship: Copies of land line and cell phone bills, appropriate letters and emails, stamps on the letters (to document the date they were sent), and other written documentary proof. Provide a reasonable amount; two to four of each type. Pick a range of dates up to and including the present. You can also include a copy of engagement ring receipt (this is something that is a big optional - do not worry if you do not have a ring yet!)

Good luck!

Edited July 8, 2012 by Lalo & Susana

[Xanax 349]

Unfortunately, I do believe a child does not constitute (enough) evidence.

Take a look at the K-1 guide above and that will give you ideas for evidence; photos, affidavits from friends and or family, emails, phone call logs, letters-- just off the top of my head these are some of items of evidence. You also need proof of meeting in the last 2 years.

[Lalo & Susana 50]

Here are the guidelines for the K-1 visa.

http://www.visajourney.com/content/k1guide

[JimVaPhuong 4,864]

When my fiancée submitted the I-129F he sent only a U.S. birth certificate of our daughter to prove our relationship.

Also,he submitted only his U.S. birth certificate not the passport coz what he read from the I-129F instruction it says we can send either birth certificate or passport.

- Will it be enough or you think CSC going to ask for more evidence?

Thanks.

You don't have to prove you have a relationship until the consulate interview. To get a petition approved you have to prove you've met at least once in the past two years.

How is that your daughter has a US birth certificate? Was she born in the US?

[Cathi 5,849]

they will want proof that you have met in person in the last 2 years. Pictures, boarding passes, passports stamps of visas things of this nature.

[*Gi* 0]

You don't have to prove you have a relationship until the consulate interview. To get a petition approved you have to prove you've met at least once in the past two years.

How is that your daughter has a US birth certificate? Was she born in the US?

Thank you for all of the answers.

Well my fiancée and I have lived together in Thailand since Jan last year.

Our baby was born in Thailand and the document of Birth certificate was issued by US consulate in BKK as well as passport and she already has her SSN.

The thing is that we thought the birth certificate would be enough as there are my name and my fiancée's name as a mother and a father of the baby.

Our baby was born this year in Feb. So I thought it proved that we have met in the last 2 years.

However, I understood now that it prolly not met the requirement of the on going relationship. For example. the two prolly have a kid together but did not stay together. So I will just wait if the CSC ask for more evidence.

Actually I prepared other evidence such as our pictures, condo rental which have his name and my name together bla bla bla.

Thank you very much everyone.

[QueenE 174]

Thank you for all of the answers.

Well my fiancée and I have lived together in Thailand since Jan last year.

Our baby was born in Thailand and the document of Birth certificate was issued by US consulate in BKK as well as passport and she already has her SSN.

The thing is that we thought the birth certificate would be enough as there are my name and my fiancée's name as a mother and a father of the baby.

Our baby was born this year in Feb. So I thought it proved that we have met in the last 2 years.

However, I understood now that it prolly not met the requirement of the on going relationship. For example. the two prolly have a kid together but did not stay together. So I will just wait if the CSC ask for more evidence.

Actually I prepared other evidence such as our pictures, condo rental which have his name and my name together bla bla bla.

Thank you very much everyone.

I think your going that route ( I'm just guessing though) you should of submitted evidence of DNA along with the birth certificate, because just having a man's name on the birth certificate doesn't automatically mean they are biologically the father of the child. I know some people say that being pregnant isnt enough but if the child is within two years and DNA is shown can't that be used to prove that the couple have met within the past two years?

[Cathi 5,849]

I think your going that route ( I'm just guessing though) you should of submitted evidence of DNA along with the birth certificate, because just having a man's name on the birth certificate doesn't automatically mean they are biologically the father of the child. I know some people say that being pregnant isnt enough but if the child is within two years and DNA is shown can't that be used to prove that the couple have met within the past two years?

there is no need to submit DNA evidence unless it is actually requested.

[*Gi* 0]

Thank you for all of the answers.

Well my fiancée and I have lived together in Thailand since Jan last year.

Our baby was born in Thailand and the document of Birth certificate was issued by US consulate in BKK as well as passport and she already has her SSN.

The thing is that we thought the birth certificate would be enough as there are my name and my fiancée's name as a mother and a father of the baby.

Our baby was born this year in Feb. So I thought it proved that we have met in the last 2 years.

However, I understood now that it prolly not met the requirement of the on going relationship. For example. the two prolly have a kid together but did not stay together. So I will just wait if the CSC ask for more evidence.

Actually I prepared other evidence such as our pictures, condo rental which have his name and my name together bla bla bla.

Thank you very much everyone.

Oops..please let me correct myself.

Actually it is a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a citizen of the United States of America. So it means my baby is a US Citizen.

The process to obtain the certificate was so easy, I just had to give the following documents to the consular in BKK;

- my passport

- my baby Thai birth certificate & translated version

- my fiancée's passport

- my fiancée and I and my baby had to go to the US Embassy by making appointment with them.

Then, we had an interview with the consulate and that's it. They did not required the DNA test or anything.

They would if the child is 15 or 18 years old I cannot remember which age exactly.

So that's why I think the report of birth of US Citizen should be enough to prove that my fiancée and I have met in the past 2 years.

This is the document that the US government issued for us so if they do not believe in their own paper, it will be pretty weird.

The statement in the certificated said that;

This is to certify that:

XXX XXXX XXXXXXXXXXX

Sex, Female, born at BANGKOK, THAILAND.

On February 01, 2012

Acquired United States CITIZENSHIP at birth as established by documentary evidence.

Presented to the Consular Service of the United States at

BANGKOK, THAILAND

on MARCH 21, 2012

MOTHER/FATHER/PARENTS

My fiancée's name My name

********** **********

Date of birth: xxxx xx xxxxx Date of birth: xxxx xx xxxxx

By the way, this is our baby....Her name is Aria

[Memphis 26]

It is much better to be well prepared by sending all related evidences to avoid RFE's, thus causing unnecessary delays in the process..

[*Gi* 0]

It is much better to be well prepared by sending all related evidences to avoid RFE's, thus causing unnecessary delays in the process..

Yes I believe so. I hope CSC won't ask for more but if they do, I will submit more evidence.

Thank you!

Edited July 9, 2012 by *Gi*

[dm559 34]

Do you know if that also includes those who are married?

You don't have to prove you have a relationship until the consulate interview. To get a petition approved you have to prove you've met at least once in the past two years.

How is that your daughter has a US birth certificate? Was she born in the US?