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I am afraid the conspiracy is much bigger and far more vast than previously thought. It all began under Bush and the predecessor of F&F which was 'Gun runner'....

They are all in it together!!!! :rofl:

The awkward fact is that "walked guns" weren't found at the murder of a Border Patrol agent under BushBaby's watch, guns which were traced back to the current operation, authorized by this administration.

Now, if AG Holder had owned up to knowing about the whole operation when first questioned, he might have had a slap on the wrist, suffered a bit of criticism from the Oversight Committee and then it would have died away, to be forgotten well before the election. But he lied under oath, about when he first knew of this operation. That gave Darrell Issa a legitimate bone to chase.

Now, with the President invoking ExeHcutive Privilege, it gives the impression that the White House was involved in the decision-making process. So, not only does it look like the President is covering up his AG's mess, but also that some of the mess is his own fault.

All because AG Holder couldn't respect the oath he took before testifying to the committee. If the top law enforcement official can lie under oath, why should anyone tell the truth?

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What gun control legislation has Obama been pushing since he took office?

Did I say they were pushing legislation? No.

That doesn't change the perception of many that gun control is something this administration is interested in.

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Did I say they were pushing legislation? No.

That doesn't change the perception of many that gun control is something this administration is interested in.

There are a lot of perceptions out there about this President. That doesn't make any of them true or valid. Him wanting to take your gun away is one of those. Him having been born in Kenya is another on the same level of stupidity. If you maintain such perceptions, that says more about you than it does about the President. Sorry but this is nutter stuff. Get tin foil. Plenty of it.

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There are a lot of perceptions out there about this President. That doesn't make any of them true or valid. Him wanting to take your gun away is one of those. Him having been born in Kenya is another on the same level of stupidity. If you maintain such perceptions, that says more about you than it does about the President. Sorry but this is nutter stuff. Get tin foil. Plenty of it.

Where did I say I bought into any of it?

Your misplaced assumptions say more about your lack of comprehension than anything else. The fact that I understand various differing points of view and am prepared to explain them, in spite of the reception I might receive, does not mean I support any of them.

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Where did I say I bought into any of it?

Your misplaced assumptions say more about your lack of comprehension than anything else. The fact that I understand various differing points of view and am prepared to explain them, in spite of the reception I might receive, does not mean I support any of them.

The advice to get tin foil was targeted at those that are buying into this nutter #######. If that doesn't include you, good!

ETA: Since you don't believe in making assumptions, I'd suggest you don't make any. ;)

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The advice to get tin foil was targeted at those that are buying into this nutter #######. If that doesn't include you, good!

ETA: Since you don't believe in making assumptions, I'd suggest you don't make any. ;)

I didn't, but we covered your lack of comprehension a couple of posts ago. ;)

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I didn't, but we covered your lack of comprehension a couple of posts ago. ;)

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The awkward fact is that "walked guns" weren't found at the murder of a Border Patrol agent under BushBaby's watch, guns which were traced back to the current operation, authorized by this administration.

Now, if AG Holder had owned up to knowing about the whole operation when first questioned, he might have had a slap on the wrist, suffered a bit of criticism from the Oversight Committee and then it would have died away, to be forgotten well before the election. But he lied under oath, about when he first knew of this operation. That gave Darrell Issa a legitimate bone to chase.

Now, with the President invoking ExeHcutive Privilege, it gives the impression that the White House was involved in the decision-making process. So, not only does it look like the President is covering up his AG's mess, but also that some of the mess is his own fault.

All because AG Holder couldn't respect the oath he took before testifying to the committee. If the top law enforcement official can lie under oath, why should anyone tell the truth?

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Since we all know "more guns = less crime" how is it those who claim that the loudest don't view getting more guns into Mexico as a positive?

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Sounds like a new outdoor sport here in Texas, similar to cow-tipping....
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Since we all know "more guns = less crime" how is it those who claim that the loudest don't view getting more guns into Mexico as a positive?

oh idk. but, i think those 'who claim that the loudest' are taking for granted people aren't stupid. it would take a total moron not to realize they're talking about guns legally being in the hands of responsible citizens, and not purposely put in the hands of drug cartel soldiers.

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oh idk. but, i think those 'who claim that the loudest' are taking for granted people aren't stupid. it would take a total moron not to realize they're talking about guns legally being in the hands of responsible citizens, and not purposely put in the hands of drug cartel soldiers.

So drug cartel soldiers in Mexico, to say nothing of baddies here in the USA, only have access to weapons Obama and company supply?

But the other argument, since it is sooooo important Fast and Furious weapons wound up as murder weapons, guns aren't responsible for the carnage their misuse inflicts. Right? Isn't that the other precious gun nut pearl of wisdom in the "more guns = less crime" argument?

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  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

  • May 1, 2009 first day to file
  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS
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