Tourist Visa Declined, confused and deflated!

[pddp 240]

I am not paranoid….. I am just tired when I question OP’s motive most ppl on VJ seem its not nice.

Not just this post but in other ones too other VJ members start attacking back why cannot you take OP account at face value.

Unfortunately that’s not the case all the time and nor the consulates and CO’s work that way.

Also MODs have taken that approach that all the OP’s are telling truth and complete story.

I get annoyed when ppl are looking to break the rules or come here and are looking for free healthcare and I believe I have right to be annoyed when my (tax payer) money is used in wrong way.

It's not your place to question anyone's motives or second guess their story. You're not the sheriff saving the little town from the bad guys. Get over yourself. People are looking to live their lives, have fun, travel, visit friends. You should try it too.

Free healthcare, what are you even talking about?! Your tax payer money I have no doubt is being used in all kinds of wrong ways but people here on VJ have nothing to do with that. Get over it and stop barking at the wrong tree.

[Noah Lot 387]

Who said he was paying for shelter? He said he was going to go live with friends. Shelter is most likely free. Since he goes to the US so often, he probably wont be doing too much tourist-y things. My husband spends about $200 a month on food. Less some months. $1000/month is totally doable if not paying for shelter.

Shelter is NOT free....how long will his friend tolerate his free loading? about two weeks...and then.....'Oh, 'OP' could you perhaps mow the grass, make dinner, repaint the house or.....be the bartender at my next party to repay our hospitality?"....Leeching off 'friends' for an extended period of time just does not happen...why? Because we are human beings....how much does it cost to go to the movies? ($10 min plus popcorn and soda)...to a restaurant? ($20 a person)...to sightsee? who knows? But the OP is NOT going to spend 6 months at a monastery, praying 18 hours a day....he plans to be a tourist...and being a tourist is EXPENSIVE...even in New Orleans....

[Noah Lot 387]

It's not your place to question anyone's motives or second guess their story. You're not the sheriff saving the little town from the bad guys. Get over yourself. People are looking to live their lives, have fun, travel, visit friends. You should try it too.

Free healthcare, what are you even talking about?! Your tax payer money I have no doubt is being used in all kinds of wrong ways but people here on VJ have nothing to do with that. Get over it and stop barking at the wrong tree.

Remind those patriotic Americans again....why are we REQUIRED to accept the OP's story at face value????? How do YOU know what his/her true motives are? Answer: You don't. Just because somebody SAYS something does NOT make it true....(disbelievers....please...contact me thru PM so I can sell you a used car)...

Bottom line: To all those American citizens responding to this topic: when was the last time YOU took off for SIX MONTHS to 'goof off' in a foreign country??????? Answer: NEVER....so .... why should a bartender from the UK/Scotland be able to do this realistically???? I'd love to read a LOGICAL, COHERENT explanation as to how this could take place..........................

[Noel194 53]

I have said it before I will say it again. Normal people do not go on vacation for 90-180 days. If you have a job and ties to your country how could you? I have a very flexible job when it comes to time off but other matters such as pets, children, family, etc would prevent me from taking a 90 day vacation.

[pddp 240]

Bottom line: To all those American citizens responding to this topic: when was the last time YOU took off for SIX MONTHS to 'goof off' in a foreign country??????? Answer: NEVER....so .... why should a bartender from the UK/Scotland be able to do this realistically???? I'd love to read a LOGICAL, COHERENT explanation as to how this could take place..........................

Clearly you're just jealous. Sad. There's plenty of Americans "goofing off" all over the world. Realistically. Travel a bit, broaden your mind, meet your fellow Americans "goofing off" in the most random places. They're not bad people!

[Boiler 43,397]

Bartending in Scotland is a minimum wage type job and unlike the US it is not normal to tip in the UK, even more so in Scotland!

On the other hand you can pick up work quite easily, unlike in the US where a good bar man can earn very nice money.

[Noah Lot 387]

Clearly you're just jealous. Sad. There's plenty of Americans "goofing off" all over the world. Realistically. Travel a bit, broaden your mind, meet your fellow Americans "goofing off" in the most random places. They're not bad people!

And those Americans are either independently wealthy or have a trust fund....the average American wage earner does NOT take a six month vacation in europe, backpacking or not.....welcome to the real world....

Bartending in Scotland is a minimum wage type job and unlike the US it is not normal to tip in the UK, even more so in Scotland!

On the other hand you can pick up work quite easily, unlike in the US where a good bar man can earn very nice money.

Like I said.......the real world.

[pddp 240]

And those Americans are either independently wealthy or have a trust fund....the average American wage earner does NOT take a six month vacation in europe, backpacking or not.....welcome to the real world....

No, that's often not the case. Americans can be as resourceful as people of any other nationalities when it comes to low budget traveling. Granted, the "average" American probably doesn't have a passport and would be scared to go anywhere but luckily there's plenty who do. You don't need a trust fund to travel overseas for a few months.

[aaydrian 479]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/324138-some-guidance-needed/ BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!! I figured something like this would happen when I read that the interviewer asked OP why 6 months and the OP 'ifed' one too many times. This guy wants to live in the US not visit so he's looking for a loophole where he doesn't have to marry some brod he finds repulsive to get some form of residence.

Right now anyone who attempts to justify anything in Ross_s' story after checking out the linked posted I assume would take a dollar right out of my pocket.

Edited May 16, 2012 by aaydrian

[Tygrys 143]

>:-| Why do so many people from VWP seem to abuse the program?

*end rant*

Because they can

[Tygrys 143]

It's not your place to question anyone's motives or second guess their story. You're not the sheriff saving the little town from the bad guys. Get over yourself. People are looking to live their lives, have fun, travel, visit friends. You should try it too.

Free healthcare, what are you even talking about?! Your tax payer money I have no doubt is being used in all kinds of wrong ways but people here on VJ have nothing to do with that. Get over it and stop barking at the wrong tree.

Maybe yoiu should really read OP's earlier thread http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/324138-some-guidance-needed/ before you post anything defending him.

Unless you're so clueless that 2+2=?

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

I have many friends who have taken months off and travelled. This is more common in other countries where vacation is greater. The Uk gets normally what, 6 weeks paid vacation to our standard 2?

It's too bad the OP had this other thread, but the facts as being presented by some are not accurate. OP said he wanted to visit 4 months, not 6. OP said he had a place to stay. OP never said his vacation was paid. Many people have a job they can go back to... replacing and then firing a bartender is not too difficult. He was obviously able to save up some money.

I think people posting here must be on in years and never went to college or something, because many 20-somethings are able to take months off of work and are used to living in a house with other people. Think of college students who get 4 months off for summer and want to travel. Not everyone is middle-aged and paying off a mortgage.

And, the US is not a scared country right now. The Officer was just acting in accordance with regulations, and made a reasonable choice. The officer also cited the reasons, which are reasonable. I do think a person with similar circumstances could be approved.

Good info on the differences in bartending, Boiler.

Clearly Noah is raving mad, judging by all of the ???????????????

[Kazulie 132]

Shelter is NOT free....how long will his friend tolerate his free loading? about two weeks...and then.....'Oh, 'OP' could you perhaps mow the grass, make dinner, repaint the house or.....be the bartender at my next party to repay our hospitality?"....Leeching off 'friends' for an extended period of time just does not happen...why? Because we are human beings....how much does it cost to go to the movies? ($10 min plus popcorn and soda)...to a restaurant? ($20 a person)...to sightsee? who knows? But the OP is NOT going to spend 6 months at a monastery, praying 18 hours a day....he plans to be a tourist...and being a tourist is EXPENSIVE...even in New Orleans....

Free loading? He and his friends had plans! Its not like he's going to show up at their door and tell his friends to get the couch ready! I would, AND HAVE, let a friend stay with me for 6 months. 8 to be exact. I didn't ask him to do anything around the house. He DID do dishes and take out the trash. But that doesn't cost him MONEY which was the whole point of my post. You are WAY off base to say that someone in the US can't live off of $1000/month. ESPECIALLY if housing is free. People with families to feed and rent to pay live off that every day in the US. You should open up your eyes and educate yourself a bit more on the way people live in this country. You sound bitter like maybe someone took advantage of you at some point.

[Clariz 2]

Why do you want to stay there longer in the USA? Are you working illegally? For B-2, getting the maximum stay of 3 or 6 months frequently plus your approved extensions of additional 3 or more months is already raising eyebrows to consul officer . When your visa expires, it may no longer be renewed. I doubt if it will be included in new "drop box for visa" law. They will be asking questions how come these full 3 months? Why the extension? What hotel, etc. ?Are you paid to do work in your US relatives home? Can you reason that out?

[Sirdaniel42 86]

Sorry, but that woman did NOT do anything....YOU did....look at the totally illogical nature of your request...

(a) a bartender does NOT get 6 months paid vacation

(b) there is no realistic possibility that your 'job' will be kept on hold during your 6 month 'vacation.'

© bartending is a very portable job....one that can easily be continued in the US

(d) $7000 would not last 8 weeks while 'vacationing' in the US...and no, no one is going to believe that your friends will foot the bill for your food, housing and entertainment for that entire period....no one has friends like that.

(e) your uncertain, shifting answer as to why you 'must' spend 6 months in the US, backtracking to 90 days or maybe more than 90, etc...did little to establish confidence in the VO.

the denial is NOT the fault of the VO....after all, who was the applicant? You. Who has the responsibility of convincing a VO of your true intentions? You.

Whose 'fault' was this denial? Yours. Period. Trying to blame a nameless, faceless person won't (a) change the decision nor (b) generate any useful sympathy.

Bottom line: a six month 'vacation' for someone of working age makes little sense. And $7000 is a pittance for supporting one's self for six months in the US.

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