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I have a friend, from Romania, who is not well off financially. I'd love to visit Bucharest, but it, at the time, seemed more sensible for her to visit first as I have nearly 6 months of vacation days saved up. We're figuring 4-5 months of goofing off all on my dime. We had planned to hit Philly (closest to me), Washington, Pittsburgh, MD, Dayton, and NYC as well as a cabin that is owned by a group I belong to. I never would have imagined the types of grief folks here have gone through just to have a friend come to share the sights.

The problem, from what I see, is her lack of having a dreamjob, a house, and a lack of many family members. She has a Mom nearby and she left a job teaching English to elementary school Romanians. The cost will be mostly mine. She has a few thousand rubles in her account. I made the invite, I feel like I should shoulder most of the costs (as well as most of the trips being my idea).

From what I've read, this is Red Flag central. Is there any way to allow her to visit? She will surely be returning home, but I'd love if she visited again in a year or two.

Has anyone else dealt with this?

I'm new to this. I've only been to the 18 states and my only trip outside the US was to the Dominican Republic. How has everyone else dealt with this?

Best wishes,

Colesy

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There is a chance she could get a visa, but it is not a great chance. Probably less than 50/50. Only one way to find out and that is to have her apply.

You should be thinking more about going there to visit as this is how most of us have dealt with the problem,

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I have a friend, from Romania, who is not well off financially. I'd love to visit Bucharest, but it, at the time, seemed more sensible for her to visit first as I have nearly 6 months of vacation days saved up. We're figuring 4-5 months of goofing off all on my dime. We had planned to hit Philly (closest to me), Washington, Pittsburgh, MD, Dayton, and NYC as well as a cabin that is owned by a group I belong to. I never would have imagined the types of grief folks here have gone through just to have a friend come to share the sights.

The problem, from what I see, is her lack of having a dreamjob, a house, and a lack of many family members. She has a Mom nearby and she left a job teaching English to elementary school Romanians. The cost will be mostly mine. She has a few thousand rubles in her account. I made the invite, I feel like I should shoulder most of the costs (as well as most of the trips being my idea).

From what I've read, this is Red Flag central. Is there any way to allow her to visit? She will surely be returning home, but I'd love if she visited again in a year or two.

Has anyone else dealt with this?

I'm new to this. I've only been to the 18 states and my only trip outside the US was to the Dominican Republic. How has everyone else dealt with this?

Best wishes,

Colesy

Young, poor, single, and recently left her job are all negative factors in your friend getting a visitor visa. With you paying for her trip, it makes it even less likely that she will get a visitor visa. It doesn't seem that she has much that would indicate she would return to Romania. Her mother, father, and siblings are not strong ties for a young and single woman. You paying for her trip indicates she cannot afford her trip on her own, and you could be a resource if she decides to illegally stay in the US.

Your friend will not know if she qualify for a visitor visa without applying. She should apply. She should also be aware her chances are low for getting a visa.

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She can apply for a tourist visa and may get lucky. But most likely as she's a young woman with only minimal ties it will be denied.

If you have up to six months vacation time you could consider a long vacation in Europe. As a Romanian she will be able to travel to lots of different countries in Europe with no visa issues. You could have an amazing time together visiting lots of different countries - it doesn't have to be very expensive if you plan well and book some things in advance etc.

Or if you don't fancy Europe how about an extended vacation around Central and South America? That could be amazing.

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Here is a fun fact.

Romania is one of four countries designated to join the VWP. To be a VWP country, the visitor visa denial rate must be less than 3%. Currently, the Romanian rate for visitor visa denial is about 25%. As long as the denial rate is above 3%, Romania cannot be a VWP country.

With every bad case, the chances of Romania becoming a VWP decreases.

If only people with good chances of getting visitor visas apply and the denial rate drop below 3%, the chances the Romania will become a VWP will increase.

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Here is a fun fact.

Romania is one of four countries designated to join the VWP. To be a VWP country, the visitor visa denial rate must be less than 3%. Currently, the Romanian rate for visitor visa denial is about 25%. As long as the denial rate is above 3%, Romania cannot be a VWP country.

With every bad case, the chances of Romania becoming a VWP decreases.

If only people with good chances of getting visitor visas apply and the denial rate drop below 3%, the chances the Romania will become a VWP will increase.

No Romanian gets 5 months of paid vacation....and the abuse rate from Romania is far above what is required to join the VWP...(and the country's currency is NOT the ruble; it's the lei)

Her chances are nil....because how could a VO justify giving a visa to someone who has absolutely no reason to return? If she can 'goof off' for several months, leaving her parents behind, her former students, etc, then why not permanently?

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2 options

1 - Have your friend apply for tourist via.

2 - goof off in friend's home country instead. The friend can work on establishing stronger ties to home country while you're there, or before you get there if she decides to later on visit the US.

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How did you meet :innocent:

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Traveling and goofing off in Europe sounds better in many ways. And with her chances...for you too. Can she visit other European countries? Hungary, Germany, Croatia...all sound fun for your nearly 6 months saved up Vacation!!! Plus "your dime" would stretch out more in these countries. Train rides. Villas. Photographic moments...wow I have sold it to myself. :thumbs:

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I know of 2 people in Romania who were young , in college , no strong ties To Romania who were denied visitor visa and were told that college students rarely are approved visitor visas. I also know of 2 young girls, college students, zero money or property in their name with family both in US and Romania and they were approved visitor visas with no issues, one of them for 10 years. The IOs were rights in those cases as they both visited family and returned to school so you never know until you try.

It`s true that lack of strong ties decrease chances significantly but if she never applies chances are zero :). Good luck!

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Traveling and goofing off in Europe sounds better in many ways. And with her chances...for you too. Can she visit other European countries? Hungary, Germany, Croatia...all sound fun for your nearly 6 months saved up Vacation!!! Plus "your dime" would stretch out more in these countries. Train rides. Villas. Photographic moments...wow I have sold it to myself. :thumbs:

Yes, Romanians can travel anywhere in the EU/Schengen area visa free.

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As can be evidenced by a quick trip on the Tube......

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Honestly, if you have a few months off visit her in Bucharest... It's a beautiful city and there is so much to do. Your savings will also go much further there than it will here. The currency exchanges to about 3 to 1so for every hundred dollars you're looking at about 300 Romanian Lei which is a lot of money! I would say just visit her and possibly travel Europe.

As far as her visa application - I highly doubt you have any chance of being granted a visitors visa. Sorry! :(

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