Federal Government Supports Voter Fraud - Attempts to Block Voter ID Law in Texas.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Seriously, F this government. The feds are out of control on this issue.

IDs ARE necessary. It's completely way too easy to just walk in and say you're someone else and vote for them.

I love how they say "registered hispanic voters" - THEY CANT REGISTER WITHOUT AN ID TO BEGIN WITH!!!!! So why can't they show it to actually vote?!?!?!?!?! --- As it stands right now, Jose can say he's Juan and vote for him because you don't have to verify your identity. It's completly open for fraud and you could honestly vote as many times as you wanted to if you know just a name that's in that polling district...

Damn this government and their support of fraud!

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/13/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-decided-idUS219289317520120313

The Texas legislature's voter ID law likely discriminates against hundreds of thousands of registered Hispanic voters, the Justice Department declared Monday in a forceful objection.

The objection means the Texas law -- which would require voters to present photo identification in order to cast a ballot -- cannot take effect until a federal court in Washington, D.C., weighs in, the Associated Press reports.

Texas lawmakers passed a voter ID law in 2011. It's one of eight states to do so, in response to alleged voter fraud. Opponents, however, see a Republican attempt to disenfranchise voters who tend to vote for more liberal candidates and causes, the AP reports.

The Justice Department seems to agree with opponents about the Texas voter ID law's discriminatory effects. Under the Texas law, Hispanic voters would be between 50% and 200% more likely than non-Hispanics to lack a valid photo ID, the Justice Department said.

An estimated 175,000 to 304,000 Hispanic voters in Texas lack driver's licenses or state-issued IDs, according to the AP.

Under the Voting Rights Act of 1965, states with a history of discrimination -- including Texas and South Carolina -- must prove that voting laws do not impose a burden on the voting power of racial or ethnic minorities, The Wall Street Journal reports. Texas failed to meet that burden, the Justice Department said in a letter to Texas' elections director.

Texas' voter ID law is the second such law to get rejected by the Justice Department. South Carolina's voter ID law -- which, like Texas, must also get "pre-clearance" under the Voting Rights Act -- was rejected in December, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

A federal court is now set to weigh in on Texas' voter ID law and whether it discriminates against minorities. A hearing could happen as soon as Wednesday, according to the NCSL.

[luckytxn 2,264]

To me it should be OK to require an ID to vote. Right now the state of Texas is trying to make free for low income or elderly to get a state issued ID. I personally say that we shouldn't even do that but the Feds want it.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

[Obama 2012 1,714]

disenfranchised? really?

Cmon now, you know better. I know you're smarter than that.

[Tim/Mav 305]

My View of the Average American Voter. No matter what .

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

disenfranchised? really?

Cmon now, you know better. I know you're smarter than that.

Voter Fraud? Really?

Cmon now, you know better. I know you're smarter than that.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Voter Fraud? Really?

Cmon now, you know better. I know you're smarter than that.

I already explained how easy it is to get by with it here in the state.

Just because people aren't prosecutes all the time, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It does and quite often at that. It's just really hard to prove because when you say you are someone, sign the name and it doesn't get checked beyond that, you can vote early and as often as you like.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I already explained how easy it is to get by with it here in the state.

Just because people aren't prosecutes all the time, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It does and quite often at that. It's just really hard to prove because when you say you are someone, sign the name and it doesn't get checked beyond that, you can vote early and as often as you like.

Good Lord. The last big voter fraud claim came from SC and - as any other - didn't stand up to scrutiny. It's a myth.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Trouble staying focused again? There is evidence of people acquiring and using fake SS cards. There's evidence of the other items you mention as well. Not surprisingly, there's no evidence of voter fraud happening all over the place. There are anecdotes of a person casting a vote said person wasn't supposed to cast. But there is no evidence - none - that the integrity of our elections is threatened by voter fraud.

That's because you can't prove it without taking each individual who "voted" and having them verify their signature again.

All you do to vote here is walk in, give them you're name and then you vote! no other proof of identity required.

I could walk in and say I'm Tom Green and they'd let me vote so long as "Tom Green" is a name on the list for that district. I can then sign "Tom Green's" name to say I voted and vote however I want to eventhough I am not Tom Green and eventhough Tom Green may not have voted that way.

I'll remember your logic the next time there's a reactionary law to one or two people getting hurt doing something and new "safety" laws need to be put into effect. There's no widespread evidence of there being an issue there, but we still do it and create laws when it happens to prevent it from happening again. In this country, we put a lot of weight on voting the last time I checked. It would only make sense for the system to be as seamless and legit as possible.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I could walk in and say I'm Tom Green and they'd let me vote so long as "Tom Green" is a name on the list for that district. I can then sign "Tom Green's" name to say I voted and vote however I want to eventhough I am not Tom Green and eventhough Tom Green may not have voted that way.

But that's not actually happening. So why get all worked up about it? Why fight an issue that doesn't actually exist?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

But that's not actually happening. So why get all worked up about it? Why fight an issue that doesn't actually exist?

It happens all the time.

It exists, it happens, and it has for a very long time.

It may not happen there are your polling place in FL (not what you see anyway) but it does happen.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It happens all the time.

Because you say so? Whatever, man.

[Nina~ 431]

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Trouble staying focused again? There is evidence of people acquiring and using fake SS cards. There's evidence of the other items you mention as well. Not surprisingly, there's no evidence of voter fraud happening all over the place. There are anecdotes of a person casting a vote said person wasn't supposed to cast. But there is no evidence - none - that the integrity of our elections is threatened by voter fraud.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

I personally have no problem with requiring a state or government-issued photo ID in order to vote; heck, if I had a say in this I would make proof of U.S. citizenship mandatory when registering to vote, the same way it's the case when applying for a U.S. passport.

But even I will tell you that voter fraud is basically non-existent. It simply doesn't happen.

Neither Green Card holders nor illegal aliens are stupid enough to jeopardize their gig in the U.S. by doing something so incredible stupid, and the incredible stupid Americans don't even vote. Keep in mind, only about half of those who are registered to vote even go to the polls. Hence, all of this is, once again, smoke and mirrors. It's true that the poorest of the poor, those who don't have a driver's license, let a lone a car, those who are long retired, and those who live in poverty, which, admit it folks, are to a great extend blacks and Hispanics, would rather vote Democrat than Republican, which is why those Republicans who push for these voter ID laws have a clear agenda: preventing as many presumed votes for Democrats as possible.

All of this could be solved, if the Feds would issue a federal photo ID to every American, free of charge. I mean totally free. In fact, we have one already, known as the U.S. passport card. Give every American one and we don't have a problem anymore.