To those who married in Egypt

[doodlebug 3]

For the women anyhow...did you have a wali and if so who was it?

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Well, there's always the opinion that divorced women don't need walis

The imam at the masjid we got married in was mine.

[Becky&Sam 0]

For the women anyhow...did you have a wali and if so who was it?

What is a wali?

[sarah and hicham 3]

For the women anyhow...did you have a wali and if so who was it?

What is a wali?

I was wondering the same thing. Is it the person who does the ceremony?

[Becky&Sam 0]

For the women anyhow...did you have a wali and if so who was it?

What is a wali?

I was wondering the same thing. Is it the person who does the ceremony?

Is this a religous person? What does a wali do?

[hollyw 0]

correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe a wali is a witness.... at our religious marriage ceremony, i had two walis... a friend and the imam. the friend was male and muslim.. i'm not sure what the "rules" are regarding this though

[Becky&Sam 0]

My husband and I both are not Muslim so this did not apply to us for our wedding. I "googled" this and this is a witness or protector of the bride (especially if her first marriage) to make sure that all is appropriate for her.

[doodlebug 3]

Yeah sorry I went to sleep after posting this. hehe.

A wali is traditionally someone who would look over the contract and look out for the wife to be's best interest. I should have posted Muslims who got married in Egypt but I was tired.

Anyhoo....Rahma do you have anything official saying that I don't need a wali? Thanks. And happy birthday!!!!!!

[Ban Hammer 12,836]

Yeah sorry I went to sleep after posting this. hehe.

A wali is traditionally someone who would look over the contract and look out for the wife to be's best interest. I should have posted Muslims who got married in Egypt but I was tired.

Anyhoo....Rahma do you have anything official saying that I don't need a wali? Thanks. And happy birthday!!!!!!

my understanding of this is you need two witnesses. where's szsz?

[UmmSqueakster 54]

While I technically didn't need a wali either (it's the hanafi position that a convert doesn't need a wali and at the time, I tended towards the hanafis), the imam who married us insisted that he act as mine. Rather than attempt to carry on a debate with him with my future husband as the translator in the middle, I simply consented and let him do it to avoid trouble. Definately fully discuss this issue before the time to get married comes

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=...0&CATE=3600

Edited September 27, 2006 by rahma

[ya falaha! 0]

I did not have a wali. We had the two male witnesses that was it. We married at the Ministry of Justice so it was both a civil and religious ceremony. My marriage in Egypt is also recognized in the US. Others like Rahma married in Egypt religiously only. Their marriages are not recognized outside of Egypt so that's why they apply for the K-1 then marry civily in the US.

Doodle, will you be applying for the K-1 or K-3?

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Ah, just to pre-empt any potential discussions, let's not replay the whole getting married legally vs. just getting married without registering it debate.

[doodlebug 3]

K-3. I'll be doing the lovely romantic treck across town for four hours doing the civil ceremony. I believe the rules though still stated that I needed a wali there but Usama says that because I am older I don't need one but then some women on an Islamic board I post in are saying it would be invalid without one.

So.........I guess I'll have to see what he thinks again. He did mention his imam being there so I don't know why then after that he said I don't need a wali.

While I technically didn't need a wali either (it's the hanafi position that a convert doesn't need a wali and at the time, I tended towards the hanafis), the imam who married us insisted that he act as mine. Rather than attempt to carry on a debate with him with my future husband as the translator in the middle, I simply consented and let him do it to avoid trouble. Definately fully discuss this issue before the time to get married comes

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=...0&CATE=3600

Thanks. Just out of curiosity, do you know what the general school of thought Islamic-wise is in Cairo, i.e. are most following the hanafi way or a different way?

[ya falaha! 0]

No no no...please I wasn't trying to start anything wallahi..I was just trying to clarify the differences. To let doodle know her options.

Ah, just to pre-empt any potential discussions, let's not replay the whole getting married legally vs. just getting married without registering it debate.

You do not need one. You both can agree on the mahr to do what you see is fair. To me it wasn't an issue.

K-3. I'll be doing the lovely romantic treck across town for four hours doing the civil ceremony. I believe the rules though still stated that I needed a wali there but Usama says that because I am older I don't need one but then some women on an Islamic board I post in are saying it would be invalid without one.

So.........I guess I'll have to see what he thinks again. He did mention his imam being there so I don't know why then after that he said I don't need a wali.

While I technically didn't need a wali either (it's the hanafi position that a convert doesn't need a wali and at the time, I tended towards the hanafis), the imam who married us insisted that he act as mine. Rather than attempt to carry on a debate with him with my future husband as the translator in the middle, I simply consented and let him do it to avoid trouble. Definately fully discuss this issue before the time to get married comes

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=...0&CATE=3600

Thanks. Just out of curiosity, do you know what the general school of thought Islamic-wise is in Cairo, i.e. are most following the hanafi way or a different way?

Edited September 27, 2006 by moody

[Ban Hammer 12,836]

Ah, just to pre-empt any potential discussions, let's not replay the whole getting married legally vs. just getting married without registering it debate.

but those were so fun