US PR traveling abroad

[puremgd 0]

My wife is a US Permanent Resident (recently removed conditions). She is from Myanmar and still has a valid Myanmar Passport. She and I plan to travel to Vietnam, Thailand, and back to her home this fall. I need some help to figure out how to go about arranging travel for her in regards to obtaining Visas to Thailand and Vietnam. Specifically, do we file for her as a Myanmar citizen since she still has a Myanmar Passport or is she considered a US "citizen"? I realize she is not a Citizen technically, but this seems like a gray area for me. I would appreciate any expert help with this matter.

Thank you!

Martin

[ryna 132]

My wife is a US Permanent Resident (recently removed conditions). She is from Myanmar and still has a valid Myanmar Passport. She and I plan to travel to Vietnam, Thailand, and back to her home this fall. I need some help to figure out how to go about arranging travel for her in regards to obtaining Visas to Thailand and Vietnam. Specifically, do we file for her as a Myanmar citizen since she still has a Myanmar Passport or is she considered a US "citizen"? I realize she is not a Citizen technically, but this seems like a gray area for me. I would appreciate any expert help with this matter.

Thank you!

Martin

She still needs to meet the visa requirements for a citizen of Myanmar. Some countries subject US LPRs to the same entrance requirements as US Citizens but it is unlikely that either Vietnam or Thailand do. You need to check with the consulates of those countries.

Edited June 30, 2011 by ryna

[Inky 1,110]

She is not a US citizen until she takes the test, oath and has a US citizen passport. Do not claim her as a US citizen or this will cause A LOT of problems.

She is a legal resident of the USA, she is a citizen of Myanmar/her country of birth.

[Casprd 167]

Whatever you do, don't put down anywhere that she is a US Citizen. Even if it is for a travel visa to another country. That will cause huge huge major problems down the road for her and could lead to her residency being revoked and deportation.

She will have to apply for a visa as a citizen of Mynamar, but her residence and LPR status should make it easier to get the visa. Thailand is pretty relaxed for most countries, but they do have an immigration problem from Mynamar so there may be some issues, but should be easily overcome. I have looked in to this for travelling with my wife and she still has to aply for visas as a Chinese citizen but it is a little easier for her being married to a USC.

Edited June 30, 2011 by Casprd

[Saddle Bronc 124]

My wife is a US Permanent Resident (recently removed conditions). She is from Myanmar and still has a valid Myanmar Passport. She and I plan to travel to Vietnam, Thailand, and back to her home this fall. I need some help to figure out how to go about arranging travel for her in regards to obtaining Visas to Thailand and Vietnam. Specifically, do we file for her as a Myanmar citizen since she still has a Myanmar Passport...

Yup!

...or is she considered a US "citizen"?

Nope

I realize she is not a Citizen technically, but this seems like a gray area for me. I would appreciate any expert help with this matter.

Thank you!

Martin

Nothing grey about it; only if she has a US passport can she be considered US citizen.

[HeatDeath 430]

+1 to both above.

There is NO "gray area" at all! She is not a US citizen, period, full stop, end of story, no "technically-s", ands, ifs, or buts about it!

What she is, is a "US resident" [as well as continuing to be a citizen of Myanmar]. And as the above posters said, claiming to be a US citizen when you are not is very, very bad. It is, in fact, one of only 3 unrecoverable mistakes a PR can make regarding US immigration, the others being material misrepresentation and entering the US without inspection.

[DanNNina 5]

This is the site that I use to determine what is needed. She will still need to contact the Embassy/Consulate to get her visa, but this site provides good information. Put in her country as the Citizenship, and in the box that says Alien Resident of: enter United States.

http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/international_travel_information/visa_passport_information/index.jsp

[puremgd 0]

+1 to both above.

There is NO "gray area" at all! She is not a US citizen, period, full stop, end of story, no "technically-s", ands, ifs, or buts about it!

What she is, is a "US resident" [as well as continuing to be a citizen of Myanmar]. And as the above posters said, claiming to be a US citizen when you are not is very, very bad. It is, in fact, one of only 3 unrecoverable mistakes a PR can make regarding US immigration, the others being material misrepresentation and entering the US without inspection.

are you SURE? No need for the BOLD CAPS. Just trying to get clarification...

Edited June 30, 2011 by puremgd

[puremgd 0]

This is the site that I use to determine what is needed. She will still need to contact the Embassy/Consulate to get her visa, but this site provides good information. Put in her country as the Citizenship, and in the box that says Alien Resident of: enter United States.

http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/international_travel_information/visa_passport_information/index.jsp

Wow! Great link! Thanks so much for being of help in this matter. This is why I posted the question. I appreciate it.

[Anh map 2,098]

Wow! Great link! Thanks so much for being of help in this matter. This is why I posted the question. I appreciate it.

That is an airline website (with good info), but it would also be prudent to check with the embassy of the countries you are planning to visit.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,235]

Martin,

as has been said before, never do this 'like a US' citizen thingi. Any "false claim of US citizenship," even when made in error is almost always immigration suicide.

The Green Card eases travel for foreigners traveling to Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean. Unofficially it may help getting a visitor's visa to other countries, but not formally.

Here's a great Web site I discovered where you enter your and your wife's nationality and the destinations, and it will tell you what you and she will need in order to enter.

http://www.staralliance.com/en/services/visa-and-health/

[HeatDeath 430]

are you SURE? No need for the BOLD CAPS. Just trying to get clarification...

It's nothing personal. Most of my emphasis was intended nto so much for you, but for future readers of this thread.

It's just that, of all the areas of immigration law to have confusion or slightly-muddled thinking about, this is, by a substantial margin, the most dangerous. There are very real, irrevocable consequences for confusion in this area, so it is vital to be coldly-crystalline deadly clear when using terms like "US citizen".

Edited July 1, 2011 by HeatDeath