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My wife is a US Permanent Resident (recently removed conditions). She is from Myanmar and still has a valid Myanmar Passport. She and I plan to travel to Vietnam, Thailand, and back to her home this fall. I need some help to figure out how to go about arranging travel for her in regards to obtaining Visas to Thailand and Vietnam. Specifically, do we file for her as a Myanmar citizen since she still has a Myanmar Passport or is she considered a US "citizen"? I realize she is not a Citizen technically, but this seems like a gray area for me. I would appreciate any expert help with this matter.

Thank you!

Martin

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Colombia
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My wife is a US Permanent Resident (recently removed conditions). She is from Myanmar and still has a valid Myanmar Passport. She and I plan to travel to Vietnam, Thailand, and back to her home this fall. I need some help to figure out how to go about arranging travel for her in regards to obtaining Visas to Thailand and Vietnam. Specifically, do we file for her as a Myanmar citizen since she still has a Myanmar Passport or is she considered a US "citizen"? I realize she is not a Citizen technically, but this seems like a gray area for me. I would appreciate any expert help with this matter.

Thank you!

Martin

She still needs to meet the visa requirements for a citizen of Myanmar. Some countries subject US LPRs to the same entrance requirements as US Citizens but it is unlikely that either Vietnam or Thailand do. You need to check with the consulates of those countries.

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N-400

Feb. 12, 2016 - Sent N-400 to USCIS (3-year rule)

Feb. 19, 2016 - NOA1

Mar. 14, 2016 - Biometrics

June 2, 2016 - Interview - Recommended for Approval

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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She is not a US citizen until she takes the test, oath and has a US citizen passport. Do not claim her as a US citizen or this will cause A LOT of problems.

She is a legal resident of the USA, she is a citizen of Myanmar/her country of birth.


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Filed: Country: China
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Whatever you do, don't put down anywhere that she is a US Citizen. Even if it is for a travel visa to another country. That will cause huge huge major problems down the road for her and could lead to her residency being revoked and deportation.

She will have to apply for a visa as a citizen of Mynamar, but her residence and LPR status should make it easier to get the visa. Thailand is pretty relaxed for most countries, but they do have an immigration problem from Mynamar so there may be some issues, but should be easily overcome. I have looked in to this for travelling with my wife and she still has to aply for visas as a Chinese citizen but it is a little easier for her being married to a USC.

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Service Center : California Service Center
Consulate : Guangzhou, China
Marriage (if applicable): 2010-04-26
I-130 Sent : 2010-06-01
I-130 NOA1 : 2010-06-08
I-130 RFE : 2010-11-05
I-130 RFE Sent : 2010-11-06
I-130 Approved : 2010-11-10
NVC Received CaseFile: 2010-11-16
NVC Casefile Number Issued: 2010-11-22
Received DS-3032 / I-864 Bill : 2010-11-23
OPTIN EMAIL SENT TO NVC: 2010-11-23
OPTIN ACCEPTED by NVC: 2010-12-14
Pay I-864 Bill 2010-11-23
Receive I-864 Package : 2010-11-23
Return Completed I-864 : 2011-03-30
Return Completed DS-3032 : 2010-11-23
Receive IV Bill : 2010-12-17
Pay IV Bill : 2011-03-16
AOS CoverSheets Generated: 2010-11-27
IV Fee Bill marked as PAID: 2011-03-18
IV CoverSheets Generated: 2011-03-18
IV email packet sent: 2011-04-4
NVC reports 'Case Completed': 2011-5-2
'Sign in Fail' at the Online Payment Portal: 2011-5-2
Final Review Started at NVC: 2011-5-2
Final Review Completed at NVC: ????
Interview Date Set: 2011-5-5
Appointment Letter Received via Email: 2011-5-6
Interview Date: 2011-6-1
Approved!!!!!

I-751 Sent : 2013-07-02

I-751 Bio Appointment Date 2013-08-02

10 Year Green Card Approved!!!!!

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My wife is a US Permanent Resident (recently removed conditions). She is from Myanmar and still has a valid Myanmar Passport. She and I plan to travel to Vietnam, Thailand, and back to her home this fall. I need some help to figure out how to go about arranging travel for her in regards to obtaining Visas to Thailand and Vietnam. Specifically, do we file for her as a Myanmar citizen since she still has a Myanmar Passport...
Yup!
...or is she considered a US "citizen"?
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I realize she is not a Citizen technically, but this seems like a gray area for me. I would appreciate any expert help with this matter.

Thank you!

Martin

Nothing grey about it; only if she has a US passport can she be considered US citizen.

2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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+1 to both above.

There is NO "gray area" at all! She is not a US citizen, period, full stop, end of story, no "technically-s", ands, ifs, or buts about it!

What she is, is a "US resident" [as well as continuing to be a citizen of Myanmar]. And as the above posters said, claiming to be a US citizen when you are not is very, very bad. It is, in fact, one of only 3 unrecoverable mistakes a PR can make regarding US immigration, the others being material misrepresentation and entering the US without inspection.


DON'T PANIC

"It says wonderful things about the two countries [Canada and the US] that neither one feels itself being inundated by each other's immigrants."

-Douglas Coupland

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Belarus
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This is the site that I use to determine what is needed. She will still need to contact the Embassy/Consulate to get her visa, but this site provides good information. Put in her country as the Citizenship, and in the box that says Alien Resident of: enter United States.

http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/international_travel_information/visa_passport_information/index.jsp


Patience is required for this process.

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Filed: Timeline

+1 to both above.

There is NO "gray area" at all! She is not a US citizen, period, full stop, end of story, no "technically-s", ands, ifs, or buts about it!

What she is, is a "US resident" [as well as continuing to be a citizen of Myanmar]. And as the above posters said, claiming to be a US citizen when you are not is very, very bad. It is, in fact, one of only 3 unrecoverable mistakes a PR can make regarding US immigration, the others being material misrepresentation and entering the US without inspection.

are you SURE? :no: No need for the BOLD CAPS. Just trying to get clarification...

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Filed: Timeline

This is the site that I use to determine what is needed. She will still need to contact the Embassy/Consulate to get her visa, but this site provides good information. Put in her country as the Citizenship, and in the box that says Alien Resident of: enter United States.

http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/international_travel_information/visa_passport_information/index.jsp

Wow! Great link! Thanks so much for being of help in this matter. This is why I posted the question. I appreciate it.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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Wow! Great link! Thanks so much for being of help in this matter. This is why I posted the question. I appreciate it.

That is an airline website (with good info), but it would also be prudent to check with the embassy of the countries you are planning to visit.


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Filed: Other Timeline

Martin,

as has been said before, never do this 'like a US' citizen thingi. Any "false claim of US citizenship," even when made in error is almost always immigration suicide.

The Green Card eases travel for foreigners traveling to Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean. Unofficially it may help getting a visitor's visa to other countries, but not formally.

Here's a great Web site I discovered where you enter your and your wife's nationality and the destinations, and it will tell you what you and she will need in order to enter.

http://www.staralliance.com/en/services/visa-and-health/


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
Timeline

are you SURE? :no: No need for the BOLD CAPS. Just trying to get clarification...

It's nothing personal. Most of my emphasis was intended nto so much for you, but for future readers of this thread.

It's just that, of all the areas of immigration law to have confusion or slightly-muddled thinking about, this is, by a substantial margin, the most dangerous. There are very real, irrevocable consequences for confusion in this area, so it is vital to be coldly-crystalline deadly clear when using terms like "US citizen".

Edited by HeatDeath

DON'T PANIC

"It says wonderful things about the two countries [Canada and the US] that neither one feels itself being inundated by each other's immigrants."

-Douglas Coupland

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