Problems with CENOMAR in the Philippines

[YAS8MIKE 1]

Hi guys, thank you for your responses. Is a update and more clear information. I didn't really understood what CENOMAR is but after speaking to my fiancee now I understand it better. My fiancee went to get her CENOMAR and on there it said that she was married, dated Aug 2004. But the CENOMAR was registered Nov. 30 2010, 6 years after she was suppose to be married. She never got her Certificate of Marriage. After 9 months and breaking up with her fake husband she went to NSO(I think) to check to see if she was registered as married and the lady said no, there is no record. So she went to see a lawyer he said that she should go back to the NSO and get an CENOMAR on the husband and the Certificate of Marriage and bring it back to his office. Also note when she got married her family took pictures at the City Hall where she got married and show those pictures to the employees there the lawyer who married them and the employees said that guy is no lawyer in this City Hall.

I think what is happening is that this guy is trying to get back at her because she broke up with him, and he said he would get revenge and make sure she would not have a happy life. Is it possible this guy got the original papers and filed them just before Nov. 30, 2010? Could this happened to a guy who is still married? Any answers OR supported would be appreciated. Thanks everyone!

hi! this is what the 2nd paragraph on my cenomar issued on Dec 10, 2010 says:

This certification is based on the records of 1945-2010 marraiges enrolled in the database as of NOVEMBER 30, 2010

is this what u read in ur fiancee's cenomar>

[jeanie&jerry 2]

One last question. How important is the suffix on the CENOMAR and/or marriage contract? My fiancee found out that on both documents this person or her fake husband put his first name middle initial and last name but no Jr. There is same name with Sr and there is the same name with Jr but no name without the suffix. When the NSO did a search for the name without the suffix it came out blank. Does this mean we still pursue an annulment? or is there something easier and quicker we can do to throw out this marriage contract?

Thank you all for your help.

[marklovetina 52]

One last question. How important is the suffix on the CENOMAR and/or marriage contract? My fiancee found out that on both documents this person or her fake husband put his first name middle initial and last name but no Jr. There is same name with Sr and there is the same name with Jr but no name without the suffix. When the NSO did a search for the name without the suffix it came out blank. Does this mean we still pursue an annulment? or is there something easier and quicker we can do to throw out this marriage contract?

Thank you all for your help.

yes of course!!! u cant just erase her husband's name on her cenomar's record... like mine... i was married to michael john but in my husband's BC there is no John... and one thing is that... on the records tho he didnt put his Sr. or Jr. the place of the marriage, date and the parents are still the same...

yes true the name with Jr. or Sr. will not appear... like mine.. when they search the name Michael John there is none too... there is no michael john existing married to me.... quite confusing but it happened to me also....

Edited January 4, 2011 by godsgift

[rheanick 42]

One last question. How important is the suffix on the CENOMAR and/or marriage contract? My fiancee found out that on both documents this person or her fake husband put his first name middle initial and last name but no Jr. There is same name with Sr and there is the same name with Jr but no name without the suffix. When the NSO did a search for the name without the suffix it came out blank. Does this mean we still pursue an annulment? or is there something easier and quicker we can do to throw out this marriage contract?

Thank you all for your help.

The only thing for both of you to do is to file for annullment. Even though your fiancee's husband is married to another person prior to their marriage and papers were submitted to NSO, your fiancee is legally married to him. She needs to file to void her marriage. Her main defense is his previous marriage.

She married a good-for-nothing person. She should legally get rid of her previous marriage to stop further damage on her life.

[marklovetina 52]

The only thing for both of you to do is to file for annullment. Even though your fiancee's husband is married to another person prior to their marriage and papers were submitted to NSO, your fiancee is legally married to him. She needs to file to void her marriage. Her main defense is his previous marriage.

She married a good-for-nothing person. She should legally get rid of her previous marriage to stop further damage on her life.

[Mar_Wil 12]

Here is a web link that may be of help to you. (Notice the "D" listing.) http://www.bcphilippineslawyers.com/declaration-of-nullity-of-marriage-in-the-philippines/

[JheQjheq 0]

How could a falsified marriage contract be registered in cenomar philippines?  it happened to me and i was so disappointed.  my fake marriage certificate was made by Recto. me and my ex live in partner used it to register our childs name with my surname.

[Hank_ 9,171]

3 hours ago, JheQjheq said:

How could a falsified marriage contract be registered in cenomar philippines?  it happened to me and i was so disappointed.  my fake marriage certificate was made by Recto. me and my ex live in partner used it to register our childs name with my surname.

Ahhhh, it appears .. you gave a copy of your fake marriage contract to a "official" ... the rest is an easy paper trail to PSA.

[RO_AH 1,614]

On 1/2/2011 at 7:44 PM, griffin said:

HIS HUSBAND IS REQUIRED TO GET A LEGAL CAPACITY OF MARRIAGE WHEREIN THE US CONSUL IS VERY STRICT WITH THIS DOCUMENT AND HE NEEDS TO SHOW THE CONSUL A DIVORCE CERTIFICATE FROM THE US

I just got the affidavit 3 weeks ago. There is no such requirement. I only had my passport. I said I was married previously and legally divorced. I was asked to swear to those facts and I received affidavit.

[Hank_ 9,171]

4 hours ago, RO_AH said:

I just got the affidavit 3 weeks ago. There is no such requirement. I only had my passport. I said I was married previously and legally divorced. I was asked to swear to those facts and I received affidavit.

You are replying to a SIX year old topic (almost SEVEN years old)

[RO_AH 1,614]

9 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

You are replying to a SIX year old topic (almost SEVEN years old)

Oh well maybe we'll get lucky and they will lock it lol.

[Hank_ 9,171]

2 minutes ago, RO_AH said:

Oh well maybe we'll get lucky and they will lock it lol.

Not sure why they even leave them on here, the second someone brings one back to life they lock it.  Why not have the program delete them after "so long" ...

[Jimmyasshole 0]

Don’t take her word for any of it make sure you see the documents. Women in philippines come up with all sorts of stories about why a cenomar can’t be issued but the bottom line is if they were ever married they can not get one without eating an annulment. Doesn’t matter where they were married or if the got divorced anywhere in the world cause philippines does not allow divorces plain and simple. You can go online to the NSO yourself and get records like marriage certificates, birth certificates and other things. They will even ship them to the USA for you to have yourself. So just remember no cenomar no leaving to get married somewhere else or getting married in philippines. You can always just live with her in philippines if you want to be together. 

[Hank_ 9,171]

5 minutes ago, Jimmyasshole said:

Don’t take her word for any of it make sure you see the documents. Women in philippines come up with all sorts of stories about why a cenomar can’t be issued but the bottom line is if they were ever married they can not get one without eating an annulment. Doesn’t matter where they were married or if the got divorced anywhere in the world cause philippines does not allow divorces plain and simple. You can go online to the NSO PSA, hasn't been NSO in years.   yourself and get records like marriage certificates, birth certificates and other things. They will even ship them to the USA for you to have yourself. So just remember no cenomar no leaving to get married somewhere else or getting married in philippines << Yes they can if the get the divorce recognized. You can always just live with her in philippines if you want to be together. 

Mostly wrong.

 

A Filipino can be divorced in another country, with that they can get a K-1 visa and get married anywhere in the world except the Philippines.   BUT..  if the Filipino chooses to get the divorce recognized in the Philippines they can also marry in the Philippines (one party of the divorce must be a foreigner). 

[Alice87 0]

Hi,good day this is my corcern,is anyone can help me i need some advice..i am a currently living in malaysia i have a japanese boyfriend we are planning to get married but my problem is i am married in the philippines but it's annulled already but before that my surename is spelled wrong..since i was young up to  getting married i used the real spelling of my father's surename only then i knew when i applied for passport and i took the psa copy of my birth certificate that the spelling of my father's surename is wrong then the dfa personnel told me to used the surename  written on my birth certificate  and not the real spelling of my father's surename which is now my middle name  on my passport because i'm married so now me and my husband was annulled already  2017but on my passport still his surename then i have a boyfriend and we are planning to get marry japan and the city hall in his hometown ask me to take a cenomar now i took a cenomar already on the surename written on my birth certificate and it has no record of marriage...my problem is which one should i use the one written on my birth certificate or my father's real surename (cenomar)if i use my passport is it possible they will question me even though i have a cenomar which is stated no records of marriage but my passport is my ex-husband surename?i haven't change yet becoz i'm out of the country..thanks ..