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Hello all,

My wife and I are from a country that has a high rate of AP being issued

I was wondering, as a general rule of thumb, is there a higher rate of AP for males then there are for females?

Thanks.


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NVC: snail mailed IV and AOS packages: 2010-10-28

NVC: entered IV and AOS packages into system: 2010-11-16

NVC: RFE, co-sponsor proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24 (even though I sent it with the IV pkg)

NVC: overnighted co-sponsor's proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Generally, yes.


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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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Usually, male beneficiaries undergo AP more often than female beneficiaries.


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It would be interesting if anyone who had a female undergo AP could share their experience. Was it quick/short, something to concern myself with at this point in my immigration process?


Marriage : 2010-03-15

Consulate : Jerusalem

USCIS

Service Center : California Service Center

I-130 Sent : 2010-04-27

I-130 NOA1 : 2010-05-04

I-130 "Touch": 2010-10-01

I-130 Approved : 2010-10-02

NVC

NVC: receives case: 2010-10-07

NVC: assigns case #: 2010-10-14

NVC: confirms COA as lawyer: 2010-10-15

NVC: gets my e-mail addresses: 2010-10-15

NVC: provides me with IIN# and generates IV and AOS bills: 2010-10-25

NVC: paid IV and AOS bills (in process): 2010-20-26

NVC: IV and AOS bills showed as PAID. Printed barcode cover sheets: 2010-10-27

NVC: snail mailed IV and AOS packages: 2010-10-28

NVC: entered IV and AOS packages into system: 2010-11-16

NVC: RFE, co-sponsor proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24 (even though I sent it with the IV pkg)

NVC: overnighted co-sponsor's proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24

NVC: received RFE response: 2010-11-26

NVC: entered RFE response: 2010-12-07

NVC: sign-in failed: 2010-12-15

NVC: case completed: 2010-12-17

Consulate

Consulate: Interview: 2011-02-23 7:45am (scheduled on 2011-01-03)

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It would be interesting if anyone who had a female undergo AP could share their experience. Was it quick/short, something to concern myself with at this point in my immigration process?

"Anyone who had a female undergo AP"??? Your English is far too good to give you the benefit of the doubt...is this always how you address women? :angry:

My husband has a female who is currently undergoing AP (in case you hadn't guessed, that's me) - she's been in AP for 20 weeks now.

PS what makes you think that there aren't female petitioners here, and/or female posters? Yikes. :wow:

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"Anyone who had a female undergo AP"??? Your English is far too good to give you the benefit of the doubt...is this always how you address women? :angry:

My husband has a female who is currently undergoing AP (in case you hadn't guessed, that's me) - she's been in AP for 20 weeks now.

PS what makes you think that there aren't female petitioners here, and/or female posters? Yikes. :wow:

I am so happy the internet world has people like you who are some how so uniquely enlightened to give people like me some sort of "benefit of the doubt" as you described it. Thank you so much for that, really.

Of course, because I used correct punctuation if my sentences it eliminates the possibility that I may have accidently omitted a word such as female "beneficiary" or "spouse". No, it means that I am sort of sexist who goes around a web site, not designed to benefit males or females both in particular, and openly flaunts my male chauvinism.

That is one way to see it, but this is how I see it: I see it as you, a person void of any error completely because you always remember to cross your T's and dot your I's, saw a post in which a person who's English is a second language had a hard time phrasing a question politically correctly, so because they are from a "Muslim" country, it obviously means this person is some sort of sexist jerk, who keeps his "female" (as you so callously described yourself and other members of your gender) within arm's distance at all times. It is NO WAY fathomable that they forgot a word or phrased the question incorrectly, right?

I would appreciate if you stopped giving me the benefit of the doubt and stopped being racist. You see the difference between your post and my original one is that it is way more likely for anyone to see I had probably forgotten a word, you on the other hand just come of bigoted and way to self-righteous.

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Marriage : 2010-03-15

Consulate : Jerusalem

USCIS

Service Center : California Service Center

I-130 Sent : 2010-04-27

I-130 NOA1 : 2010-05-04

I-130 "Touch": 2010-10-01

I-130 Approved : 2010-10-02

NVC

NVC: receives case: 2010-10-07

NVC: assigns case #: 2010-10-14

NVC: confirms COA as lawyer: 2010-10-15

NVC: gets my e-mail addresses: 2010-10-15

NVC: provides me with IIN# and generates IV and AOS bills: 2010-10-25

NVC: paid IV and AOS bills (in process): 2010-20-26

NVC: IV and AOS bills showed as PAID. Printed barcode cover sheets: 2010-10-27

NVC: snail mailed IV and AOS packages: 2010-10-28

NVC: entered IV and AOS packages into system: 2010-11-16

NVC: RFE, co-sponsor proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24 (even though I sent it with the IV pkg)

NVC: overnighted co-sponsor's proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24

NVC: received RFE response: 2010-11-26

NVC: entered RFE response: 2010-12-07

NVC: sign-in failed: 2010-12-15

NVC: case completed: 2010-12-17

Consulate

Consulate: Interview: 2011-02-23 7:45am (scheduled on 2011-01-03)

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Actually, I thought you were sexist. Don't presume to think that I was being racist. And seeing that you were the one that brought up religion, you don't need me to tell you that Islam is not a race. And seeing that sexists exist in every society, culture and religion, I wasn't being Islamophobic either. If anything you're the one who's making assumptions about me - that just because I'm from the UK I must think that every 'heathen' from a 'Muslim' country must be so incredibly backward, ignorant, etc. I've been on VJ for quite a while now, and certainly more active than you, and yet you must be the first to accuse me of being bigoted. I wonder why?

Additionally, and I mean this genuinely, your English is better than most 'native' speakers, so if it is indeed your second language you should be very proud. And it's not just your punctuation, but your grammar, style and vocabulary. If you choose to see this as being patronising...<shrugs shoulders>

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Actually, I thought you were sexist. Don't presume to think that I was being racist. And seeing that you were the one that brought up religion, you don't need me to tell you that Islam is not a race. And seeing that sexists exist in every society, culture and religion, I wasn't being Islamophobic either. If anything you're the one who's making assumptions about me - that just because I'm from the UK I must think that every 'heathen' from a 'Muslim' country must be so incredibly backward, ignorant, etc. I've been on VJ for quite a while now, and certainly more active than you, and yet you must be the first to accuse me of being bigoted. I wonder why?

Additionally, and I mean this genuinely, your English is better than most 'native' speakers, so if it is indeed your second language you should be very proud. And it's not just your punctuation, but your grammar, style and vocabulary. If you choose to see this as being patronising...<shrugs shoulders>

I am sure you, just as much as me, are not looking to make enemies here. It probably would have been better for me to wait to get clarification as to what you meant in your post before I publicly insulted you, as you did to me. The previous post was nothing serious at, but I was just merely attempting to show you that making accusations or suggestions towards people without completely understanding the situation is not a good idea. You essentially bad mouthed me without even taking into consideration the intent and meaning behind my post. I love my wife very dearly, I find it very hurtful that one would infer that I would somehow treat her less than me because of her gender.

And you, being such a member of the online community, should understand more than anybody that it would serve no purpose to demean and isolate new users on the basis of reading one their posts.

And FYI, I came to this country when I was seven-years-old, I completed my bachelor's degree in Journalism, and am about to finish my master's in Human Rights. I am sorry if you saw my first post offensive, but it was never intended in that way.


Marriage : 2010-03-15

Consulate : Jerusalem

USCIS

Service Center : California Service Center

I-130 Sent : 2010-04-27

I-130 NOA1 : 2010-05-04

I-130 "Touch": 2010-10-01

I-130 Approved : 2010-10-02

NVC

NVC: receives case: 2010-10-07

NVC: assigns case #: 2010-10-14

NVC: confirms COA as lawyer: 2010-10-15

NVC: gets my e-mail addresses: 2010-10-15

NVC: provides me with IIN# and generates IV and AOS bills: 2010-10-25

NVC: paid IV and AOS bills (in process): 2010-20-26

NVC: IV and AOS bills showed as PAID. Printed barcode cover sheets: 2010-10-27

NVC: snail mailed IV and AOS packages: 2010-10-28

NVC: entered IV and AOS packages into system: 2010-11-16

NVC: RFE, co-sponsor proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24 (even though I sent it with the IV pkg)

NVC: overnighted co-sponsor's proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24

NVC: received RFE response: 2010-11-26

NVC: entered RFE response: 2010-12-07

NVC: sign-in failed: 2010-12-15

NVC: case completed: 2010-12-17

Consulate

Consulate: Interview: 2011-02-23 7:45am (scheduled on 2011-01-03)

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Iraq
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It would be interesting if anyone who had a female undergo AP could share their experience. Was it quick/short, something to concern myself with at this point in my immigration process?

check the AP tracker


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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Nigeria
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As more females become active in terrorist activities more woman will have hits on the lists. The more you are a soft match the longer it takes to check you out.


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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Vietnam
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Hello all,

My wife and I are from a country that has a high rate of AP being issued

I was wondering, as a general rule of thumb, is there a higher rate of AP for males then there are for females?

Thanks.

It all depends on the country.. IN VN there are 90% females in AP, but that is also representative of the high % of female applicants...


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Filed: Other Country: Morocco
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Ok...it may just be me, but he started the post saying male & female....my question would be, would everyone be freaking out as muc if he said "It would be interesting if anyone who had a male undergo AP could share their experience. Was it quick/short, something to concern myself with at this point in my immigration process?" I guess I'm also used to my fiance talking and wording things a little differently sometimes. I think AP is getting ppl a little tense here :whistle: Lets try to give the guy a break & help instead of critisize right away.

:ot2: I only know of experience that I've witnessed, and from what I'm seen through Morocco...most females/women go through quickly. Here's the link for the MENA forum: Middle East and North Africa Forum You might get more country specific answers there. Best of luck in your visajourney.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Without taking sides. . .since this appears to be a very silly misunderstood argument. . .

*cough, cough*

The evidence here is very anecdotal, but has been going on for many years. . . I've been watching the trends as others around here do. . . females often slip by without any real AP at all, while males tend to have AP of some sort, even if it ends up being short.

When females (again anecdotal at best) do get placed into AP, it tends to be on the short side of 4 weeks to 3 months. . .whereas males take the midland of anywhere from 4 weeks-2 years. . . .we've seen a lot of 6-12 months with 6-10 being closer to norm for males. Again, this is all anecdotal because God forbid the government even acknowledge the horrible backlog and real effect on peoples' lives. . . .

. . .the country of origin does not matter nearly as much as the name of the person, however, AP does *appear to be* shorter for people with common Muslim names who have spent most of their lives in Europe or Canada. . .because the paper trail is easier to navigate. . .for instance, my husband immigrated to Canada in his 20's his AP only got held up on one document that needed verification in Pakistan. . .and that took 6 months. . .we've also had several transplanted British citizens whose AP was shortened even with a common name and a short name check. . .

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For the name bit, do they look at both the first and last, or first and not last or the opposite?

My fiance now shares my last name (Asmar) which is not a hugely common Arabic name, but her previous last name was Mohammed, which is extremely common. Her first name is not very common either.


Marriage : 2010-03-15

Consulate : Jerusalem

USCIS

Service Center : California Service Center

I-130 Sent : 2010-04-27

I-130 NOA1 : 2010-05-04

I-130 "Touch": 2010-10-01

I-130 Approved : 2010-10-02

NVC

NVC: receives case: 2010-10-07

NVC: assigns case #: 2010-10-14

NVC: confirms COA as lawyer: 2010-10-15

NVC: gets my e-mail addresses: 2010-10-15

NVC: provides me with IIN# and generates IV and AOS bills: 2010-10-25

NVC: paid IV and AOS bills (in process): 2010-20-26

NVC: IV and AOS bills showed as PAID. Printed barcode cover sheets: 2010-10-27

NVC: snail mailed IV and AOS packages: 2010-10-28

NVC: entered IV and AOS packages into system: 2010-11-16

NVC: RFE, co-sponsor proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24 (even though I sent it with the IV pkg)

NVC: overnighted co-sponsor's proof of citizenship: 2010-11-24

NVC: received RFE response: 2010-11-26

NVC: entered RFE response: 2010-12-07

NVC: sign-in failed: 2010-12-15

NVC: case completed: 2010-12-17

Consulate

Consulate: Interview: 2011-02-23 7:45am (scheduled on 2011-01-03)

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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name bits -->> http://www.usaimmigrationattorney.com/SecurityNameChecksAndAdministrativeReview.html

FWIW, the majority of ppl in AP that had interviews in Guangzhou, for K-1 or spousal visas, were female.


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