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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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My wife came here on a K-1 Visa and she has adjuste status as a conditional resident. We are waiting to file for removal of condition 90 days prior to the 2nd year anniversary of the AOS interview we had which would make it approx October of this year as the earliest time to file for I-751.

My wife took her driver test at the Santa Ana, CA, DMV and passed receiving a temporary license which expires at the end of this month. We haven’t received her license.

It turns out her case was sent to DMV Investigations since she applied for the license with a conditional green card. We were given the phone number to the investigations office who told us she needed to visit and bring along all manner of documents – birth certificate, marriage certificate, whatever we had. At this appointment, they basically grilled her on whether everything was real. They took copies and notified her that they would follow up with each document to make sure they were legitimate.

This could take forever.

Has this happened to anyone else? Shouldn’t the DMV be able to talk to USCIS and get confirmation?


|| Adjustment of Status ||

01.09.09 :: Interview passed and conditional GC granted

11.17.08 :: Appointment Notice for Interview on 01.09.09

06.09.08 :: EAD received

06.06.08 :: AP received

06.02.08 :: EAD touched; card production ordered

05.30.08 :: AP touched

05.08.08 :: Biometrics appointment; AOS and EAD touched

04.28.08 :: Appointment Notice for Biometrics on 05.08.08

04.22.08 :: NOA1 receipt confirmation (AOS, AP, EAD)

04.21.08 :: Application fee processed

03.09.08 :: Application received by USCIS

03.07.08 :: Submitted I-485 Adjustment of Status (incl AP, EAD)

|| K1 Fiance Visa ||

12.01.07 :: Marriage date

09.29.07 :: Entered U.S. via San Ysidro POE

09.21.07 :: Cena de Compramisos - officially proposed

09.04.07 :: CDJ interview - visa granted (full report)

09.03.07 :: CDJ medical exam taken

08.11.07 :: CDJ packet received by beneficiary

07.15.07 :: CDJ packet received by petitioner

06.20.07 :: NOA2 petition approval

06.19.07 :: Touched

06.14.07 :: Touched - CSC confirmed receipt of RFE response

06.06.07 :: RFE received by CSC

05.30.07 :: RFE replied

05.28.07 :: RFE received

05.21.07 :: Touched

03.09.07 :: NOA1 receipt confirmation

03.07.07 :: Application fee processed

03.06.07 :: Application received by CSC

02.28.07 :: Submitted I-129F Petition for Fiance Visa

05.17.05 :: Registered on VisaJourney.com

12.21.04 :: She hit on me first ... really... I swear

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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Shouldn't the DMV be able to talk to USCIS and get confirmation?

As far as they're concerned, they need to only see her greencard (regardless if it's conditional). It's NOT their job to determine whether or not your marriage is real, USCIS has that covered.


Wife's I-130:

03/15/2019 NOA1 (Nebraska Service Center)

02/11/2020 Case transferred to Vermont Service Center

02/02/2021 NOA2 الحمد لله

02/04/2021 Approval email
02/12/2022 NVC documents submitted

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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As far as they're concerned, they need to only see her greencard (regardless if it's conditional). It's NOT their job to determine whether or not your marriage is real, USCIS has that covered.

This is what I suspected ... what should I do about this???


|| Adjustment of Status ||

01.09.09 :: Interview passed and conditional GC granted

11.17.08 :: Appointment Notice for Interview on 01.09.09

06.09.08 :: EAD received

06.06.08 :: AP received

06.02.08 :: EAD touched; card production ordered

05.30.08 :: AP touched

05.08.08 :: Biometrics appointment; AOS and EAD touched

04.28.08 :: Appointment Notice for Biometrics on 05.08.08

04.22.08 :: NOA1 receipt confirmation (AOS, AP, EAD)

04.21.08 :: Application fee processed

03.09.08 :: Application received by USCIS

03.07.08 :: Submitted I-485 Adjustment of Status (incl AP, EAD)

|| K1 Fiance Visa ||

12.01.07 :: Marriage date

09.29.07 :: Entered U.S. via San Ysidro POE

09.21.07 :: Cena de Compramisos - officially proposed

09.04.07 :: CDJ interview - visa granted (full report)

09.03.07 :: CDJ medical exam taken

08.11.07 :: CDJ packet received by beneficiary

07.15.07 :: CDJ packet received by petitioner

06.20.07 :: NOA2 petition approval

06.19.07 :: Touched

06.14.07 :: Touched - CSC confirmed receipt of RFE response

06.06.07 :: RFE received by CSC

05.30.07 :: RFE replied

05.28.07 :: RFE received

05.21.07 :: Touched

03.09.07 :: NOA1 receipt confirmation

03.07.07 :: Application fee processed

03.06.07 :: Application received by CSC

02.28.07 :: Submitted I-129F Petition for Fiance Visa

05.17.05 :: Registered on VisaJourney.com

12.21.04 :: She hit on me first ... really... I swear

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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This is what I suspected ... what should I do about this???

I've had a similar scenario when I was enrolling for summer classes while adjusting status (i didn't even have a GC at that time). If i were in your shoes, I would've printed out (from their website) whatever documents they list that are necessary to get a new DL and refuse to give them anything further, or question them why on earth do they need more documents than necessary.

Or avoid the fuss and go to a different DMV office.


Wife's I-130:

03/15/2019 NOA1 (Nebraska Service Center)

02/11/2020 Case transferred to Vermont Service Center

02/02/2021 NOA2 الحمد لله

02/04/2021 Approval email
02/12/2022 NVC documents submitted

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One method that is heavily suggested when things get sticky during ROC is to get your congressman/woman involved. I am not sure if it can also apply to DMV... as a LPR, you are being treated differently and unfairly.

However, if they keep giving you grief, then they are violating your civil rights... they cannot question the validity of a marriage license or any other documents.

Okalian has a great point - print out the document that shows what acceptable identifications are accepted and that's the only thing you should've provided.

One last comment - some states will accept NOA and extension letters, and some do not... so you might go through this "fight" and find out that you need to wait until her 10-year GC is available....


N-400 Naturalization Timeline

06/28/11 .. Mailed N-400 package via Priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/30/11 .. Package Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

07/06/11 .. Received e-mail notification of application acceptance

07/06/11 .. Check cashed

07/08/11 .. Received NOA letter

07/29/11 .. Received text/e-mail for biometrics notice

08/03/11 .. Received Biometrics letter - scheduled for 8/24/11

08/04/11 .. Walk-in finger prints done.

08/08/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Placed in line for interview scheduling

09/12/11 .. Received Yellow letter dated 9/7/11

09/13/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Interview scheduled

09/16/11 .. Received interview letter

10/19/11 .. Interview - PASSED

10/20/11 .. Received text/email: Oath scheduled

10/22/11 .. Received OATH letter

11/09/11 .. Oath ceremony

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Mexico
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Thank you all for the responses and support.

I just got off the phone with the “investigator” handling the “case.” Evidently, whoever submitted the case to this special “DMV Investigations” office (Irvine, California) indicated that they were suspicious of the documentation provided – presumably the conditional green card. The “investigator” said that could be anything from a “strange looking font” to any number of reasons. And that his job was to ensure that the documents provided are legitimate.

I asked why this couldn’t be done with a simply call to the USCIS and he said that would be the case but also with the social security office (to verify the ss#) and with family members (to verify date of birth)?!?! #######???

I don’t think it helped that my wife loses all manner of concentration when she’s put under stress. I think she got her dates off when asked when she initially took her written test, driving test, and what docs she provided.

This is a mess.


|| Adjustment of Status ||

01.09.09 :: Interview passed and conditional GC granted

11.17.08 :: Appointment Notice for Interview on 01.09.09

06.09.08 :: EAD received

06.06.08 :: AP received

06.02.08 :: EAD touched; card production ordered

05.30.08 :: AP touched

05.08.08 :: Biometrics appointment; AOS and EAD touched

04.28.08 :: Appointment Notice for Biometrics on 05.08.08

04.22.08 :: NOA1 receipt confirmation (AOS, AP, EAD)

04.21.08 :: Application fee processed

03.09.08 :: Application received by USCIS

03.07.08 :: Submitted I-485 Adjustment of Status (incl AP, EAD)

|| K1 Fiance Visa ||

12.01.07 :: Marriage date

09.29.07 :: Entered U.S. via San Ysidro POE

09.21.07 :: Cena de Compramisos - officially proposed

09.04.07 :: CDJ interview - visa granted (full report)

09.03.07 :: CDJ medical exam taken

08.11.07 :: CDJ packet received by beneficiary

07.15.07 :: CDJ packet received by petitioner

06.20.07 :: NOA2 petition approval

06.19.07 :: Touched

06.14.07 :: Touched - CSC confirmed receipt of RFE response

06.06.07 :: RFE received by CSC

05.30.07 :: RFE replied

05.28.07 :: RFE received

05.21.07 :: Touched

03.09.07 :: NOA1 receipt confirmation

03.07.07 :: Application fee processed

03.06.07 :: Application received by CSC

02.28.07 :: Submitted I-129F Petition for Fiance Visa

05.17.05 :: Registered on VisaJourney.com

12.21.04 :: She hit on me first ... really... I swear

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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In NJ just FYI if your GC ( 2 year ) expires and you have not been approved and received the 10 yearcard you are out of luck, Also onthe DL they place in red letters TEMP IMMI status. pizzed me off to no avail. However they did issue hubbies DL with an expiration date 90 days after his 2 year card. Card came in Nov 09 went and renewed the DL and then sent it back cause it had him as a Female :lol: we are now waiting for the replacement :rofl:


Why is it that the only one who can stop the crying is the one who started it in the first place?



More Complete Story here
My Saga includes 2 step sons
USC Married 4/2007 Colombian on overstay since 2001 of B1/B2 visa
Applied 5/2007 Approved GC in Hand 10/2007
I-751 mailed 6/30/09 aapproved 11/7/09 The BOYS I-751 Mailed 12/29/09 3/23/10 Email approval for 17 CR 3/27/10
4/14/10 Email approval for 13 yr Old CR 4/23/10

Oldest son now 21 I-130 filed by LPR dad ( as per NVC CSPA is applying here )
I-130 approved 2/24
Priority date 12/6/2007
4/6/2010 letter from NVC arrives to son dated 3/4/2010
5/4/10 received AOS and DS3032 via email
9/22/10 Interview BOG Passed
10/3/10 POE JFK all went well
11/11/10 GC Received smile.png


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I don't know where she had her driving test at, but if it's California, then just tell her to suck it up and wait. CA is very strict and have a very unique rules and regulations. As much as I love that place, I am so thankfull that I don't live there lol.

Good Luck.

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Drones at work.

File a formal complaint in which you suggest confirming the validity of her Green Card with USCIS, which is but a phone call away. Then mention the violation of civil rights and illegal targeting of a woman based on her coming from Mexico and the involvement of your congressperson and the local newspaper as a potential career stopper.


There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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I don't know where she had her driving test at, but if it's California, then just tell her to suck it up and wait. CA is very strict and have a very unique rules and regulations. As much as I love that place, I am so thankfull that I don't live there lol.

Good Luck.

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Here in Florida, I just showed the DMV my NOA that I am approved of green card and is ordered for production. Because at that time my 90 days visa had already expired. They honored it in place of my GC. I had my learner's license for a while and when my GC arrived, I took my driving test, I passed it and was issued a drivers license that expires in 2017. blush.gif


June 11 - Mailed I-129F to TSC

June 14 - CSC Received I-129F

June 20 - I-129F Notice Date

Nov 2 - NOA2

Nov 8 - NOA 2 hard copy

Nov 20 - Package left NVC

Nov. 26 - USEM received our packet from NVC

Jan 8- Early Medical, received Packet 4

Jan 10- Medical Passed after 3 days in SLEC!!! Whew!!!

Jan 17: Early CFO seminar

Jan 30 - SLEC Medical Exam Appt

Feb 7th - INTERVIEW appointment at USEM (APPROVED!!!)

Feb 12th - Visa on Hand!

Feb 15th - Patrick's departure

Feb 18 - Pat filed for Social Security # and we applied for marriage license

March 1- WEDDING DAY

March 14 - Pat got his SS card thru the mail

Mid-April - We received our marriage license in the mail

May 2- Michelle's graduation :)

May 5- AOS Filing

May 13 - NOA 1 for AED AOS

May 31 - Biometrics

June 25- Notice of Tranfer of Docs to CSC

July 16 - EAD - Card Production Ordered

July 24 - EAD Card RECEIVED

July 25 - AOS WELCOME NOTICE RECEIVED

July 28 - GREEN CARD received!!!

April 30,2010 - I-751 sent to VSC

May 04, 2010 - I-767C

MARCH29, 2012 - N-400 SENT

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Scotland
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This is one of those times where you need to raise hell until it gets handled.

They are obviously being prejudiced at the least. Put your foot down.


"You don't marry someone you can live with, you marry the person you can't live without."

Mailed K-1 on 2-6-10

USCIS received packet on 2-8-10

NOA 1: Received 2-16-10

NOA 2: Approved 4-29-10 (72 Days)

NVC Forwarded Petition to London- 5-6-10

NVC Letter Received: 5-7-1010

London Received Packet: 5-14-10

London Mailed Packet to Rob: 5-18-10

Packet 3 Received by Rob: 5-22-2010

Packet 3 paperwork mailed to Rob 6-12-10

Medical- July 8, 2010

Everything mailed to Embassy 7-19-10

Interview Date: 9-14-10- Approved pending non-machine washed replacement passport.

Entry to US- 10-6-10 POE- Newark

Wedding- 10-23-10

AOS

Mailed AOS paperwork to the Chicago lockbox 1-7-11

Delivery Notification 1-10-11

Text stating application was received 1-20-11

Check Cashed 1-21-11

NOA 1 received 1-22-11

Biometrics letter received 1-29--11

Biometrics appointment 2-24-11

Received notice- I-485 has been transferred to the California Service Center 2-9-11.

3-11-11 - EAD production ordered

3-19-11- EAD Received

3-31-2011- AOS approved without interview

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We've been through BS with the DMV also, although not to that extent.

When it happened to us, we contacted the Governor's office, our Senator, and the head of the DMV. We never knew if any one was disciplined, but at least we had our say.


Our journey together on this earth has come to an end.

I will see you one day again, my love.

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Card came in Nov 09 went and renewed the DL and then sent it back cause it had him as a Female :lol: we are now waiting for the replacement :rofl:

That's hilarious! :rofl:


N-400 Naturalization Timeline

06/28/11 .. Mailed N-400 package via Priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/30/11 .. Package Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

07/06/11 .. Received e-mail notification of application acceptance

07/06/11 .. Check cashed

07/08/11 .. Received NOA letter

07/29/11 .. Received text/e-mail for biometrics notice

08/03/11 .. Received Biometrics letter - scheduled for 8/24/11

08/04/11 .. Walk-in finger prints done.

08/08/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Placed in line for interview scheduling

09/12/11 .. Received Yellow letter dated 9/7/11

09/13/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Interview scheduled

09/16/11 .. Received interview letter

10/19/11 .. Interview - PASSED

10/20/11 .. Received text/email: Oath scheduled

10/22/11 .. Received OATH letter

11/09/11 .. Oath ceremony

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Thank you all for the responses and support.

I just got off the phone with the “investigator” handling the “case.” Evidently, whoever submitted the case to this special “DMV Investigations” office (Irvine, California) indicated that they were suspicious of the documentation provided – presumably the conditional green card. The “investigator” said that could be anything from a “strange looking font” to any number of reasons. And that his job was to ensure that the documents provided are legitimate.

I asked why this couldn’t be done with a simply call to the USCIS and he said that would be the case but also with the social security office (to verify the ss#) and with family members (to verify date of birth)?!?! #######???

I don’t think it helped that my wife loses all manner of concentration when she’s put under stress. I think she got her dates off when asked when she initially took her written test, driving test, and what docs she provided.

This is a mess.

Definition:

Civil and political rights are a class of rights and freedoms that protect individuals from unwarranted action by government and private organizations and individuals and ensure one's ability to participate in the civil and political life of the state without discrimination or repression.

Another definition:

The right of certain individuals not to be discriminated against in employment, public accommodations, housing, voting, and education because of their protected-class status.

Contact your civil rights division and explain your situation... you can choose to file a complaint that your wife is being treated differently and her civil rights have been violated. This is definitely not right.

Please read this page....

http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/civilrights/index.html


N-400 Naturalization Timeline

06/28/11 .. Mailed N-400 package via Priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/30/11 .. Package Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

07/06/11 .. Received e-mail notification of application acceptance

07/06/11 .. Check cashed

07/08/11 .. Received NOA letter

07/29/11 .. Received text/e-mail for biometrics notice

08/03/11 .. Received Biometrics letter - scheduled for 8/24/11

08/04/11 .. Walk-in finger prints done.

08/08/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Placed in line for interview scheduling

09/12/11 .. Received Yellow letter dated 9/7/11

09/13/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Interview scheduled

09/16/11 .. Received interview letter

10/19/11 .. Interview - PASSED

10/20/11 .. Received text/email: Oath scheduled

10/22/11 .. Received OATH letter

11/09/11 .. Oath ceremony

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