Can outstanding student loans keep me from getting Canadian Passport?

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

What state do you live in? Have you tried to get a state ID? I saw you post about Texas dr's so I assume you live there. Do you have an expired DL at all? You might be able to get an ID, but I know how crazy they are about using things from Canada, even though their website says they accept it.

I'm actually in Ohio. I called the BMV this morning and they said that they could not issue a State ID without a GC.

Do you have any photo ID?

Well, there's the million dollar question.

Yes, I do.

Do I have valid picture ID?

No.

The only (expired) picture ID I have, is the one I showed at the border.

How does one go through life without any other picture ID? I guess you never drove? I guess Canada is different than USA, but man, I've had some sort of picture ID since I was 16. Looks like passport Canada won't except something expired unless its a recently expired passort (i think someone already said this)

I have very few pieces of picture ID. I have a DL and a passport and that's it. I had a friend who drove without a DL throughout high school and university but he has one now. If the passport is expired less than one year then Passport Canada will take it, which is what I posted above. What picture ID did you show at the border and how long has it been expired?

[wowswift 3]

well, i guess the only two options you have is, wing it and file AOS with an expired ID and hope they don't care, but looks like you can get a Proof of Citizenship card even though you were born in Canada, but at least it would be a picture ID, if you have these things:

you have never had a citizenship certificate and you were born in Canada

* A birth certificate issued by the appropriate provincial or territorial authority

* Two (2) pieces of personal identification, such as a driver’s licence and a health insurance card

* Other documents, such as a marriage certificate/divorce certificate and/or a legal name change certificate (if applicable)

Though i dunno if they care if its expired. maybe talk to them. They say even if you have a birth certificate, you can get one of these. but they might think its silly, but its a picture id that you might be able to get so you can get a passport

[Kittyfang 6]

I have very few pieces of picture ID. I have a DL and a passport and that's it. I had a friend who drove without a DL throughout high school and university but he has one now. If the passport is expired less than one year then Passport Canada will take it, which is what I posted above. What picture ID did you show at the border and how long has it been expired?

I showed Health Card, it has been expired for over a year.

well, i guess the only two options you have is, wing it and file AOS with an expired ID and hope they don't care, but looks like you can get a Proof of Citizenship card even though you were born in Canada, but at least it would be a picture ID, if you have these things:

you have never had a citizenship certificate and you were born in Canada

* A birth certificate issued by the appropriate provincial or territorial authority

* Two (2) pieces of personal identification, such as a driver’s licence and a health insurance card

* Other documents, such as a marriage certificate/divorce certificate and/or a legal name change certificate (if applicable)

Though i dunno if they care if its expired. maybe talk to them. They say even if you have a birth certificate, you can get one of these. but they might think its silly, but its a picture id that you might be able to get so you can get a passport

I will have to look into that, but if they require two piece of picture ID, I'm SOL.

[Kittyfang 6]

I have very few pieces of picture ID. I have a DL and a passport and that's it. I had a friend who drove without a DL throughout high school and university but he has one now. If the passport is expired less than one year then Passport Canada will take it, which is what I posted above. What picture ID did you show at the border and how long has it been expired?

I showed Health Card, it has been expired for over a year.

well, i guess the only two options you have is, wing it and file AOS with an expired ID and hope they don't care, but looks like you can get a Proof of Citizenship card even though you were born in Canada, but at least it would be a picture ID, if you have these things:

you have never had a citizenship certificate and you were born in Canada

* A birth certificate issued by the appropriate provincial or territorial authority

* Two (2) pieces of personal identification, such as a driver’s licence and a health insurance card

* Other documents, such as a marriage certificate/divorce certificate and/or a legal name change certificate (if applicable)

Though i dunno if they care if its expired. maybe talk to them. They say even if you have a birth certificate, you can get one of these. but they might think its silly, but its a picture id that you might be able to get so you can get a passport

I will have to look into that, but if they require two piece of picture ID, I'm SOL.

I think a Proof of Citizenship is something like a Birth Certificate, which I have. It's not a picture ID.

[wowswift 3]

I have very few pieces of picture ID. I have a DL and a passport and that's it. I had a friend who drove without a DL throughout high school and university but he has one now. If the passport is expired less than one year then Passport Canada will take it, which is what I posted above. What picture ID did you show at the border and how long has it been expired?

I showed Health Card, it has been expired for over a year.

well, i guess the only two options you have is, wing it and file AOS with an expired ID and hope they don't care, but looks like you can get a Proof of Citizenship card even though you were born in Canada, but at least it would be a picture ID, if you have these things:

you have never had a citizenship certificate and you were born in Canada

* A birth certificate issued by the appropriate provincial or territorial authority

* Two (2) pieces of personal identification, such as a driver’s licence and a health insurance card

* Other documents, such as a marriage certificate/divorce certificate and/or a legal name change certificate (if applicable)

Though i dunno if they care if its expired. maybe talk to them. They say even if you have a birth certificate, you can get one of these. but they might think its silly, but its a picture id that you might be able to get so you can get a passport

I will have to look into that, but if they require two piece of picture ID, I'm SOL.

doesn't say two picture ID's, I'd assume you only need one. My husband's health card didn't have his pic on it, so i don't think that is normal in every province. its like getting a DL here, you show your old ID and your social security card, they usually just want to see names matching.

[Hugglebuggles 60]

I was reading your thread in the AOS forum and why not try to apply for a passport with the expired Health Card, SIN, and birth certificate like Inky suggested. Then, on top of that, maybe it would be helpful to include a cover letter stating your circumstances and why you no longer have valid picture identification. It may help...

[Kittyfang 6]

I was reading your thread in the AOS forum and why not try to apply for a passport with the expired Health Card, SIN, and birth certificate like Inky suggested. Then, on top of that, maybe it would be helpful to include a cover letter stating your circumstances and why you no longer have valid picture identification. It may help...

That is what I think I will do. If they deny me, I will be out of options... Maybe just try to do the Biometrics with the expired card.

See, the thing is that I know I need a passport, but with all these conflicting information, I'm thinking that I should try the biometrics with the expired ID. The reason is that the more I wait, the longer the expiration will be.

In any case, I'm caught in between.

If they were to turn me down, at the biometric office, I would just have to come back with my passport (if I can get it). Whichever happens first, I guess.

But, can I re-schedule a biometric appointment if I get turned down for not having ID?

[Inky 1,110]

Like I said in the other post Nebraska USCIS requires valid photo ID, I called them and they said it has to have the correct dates and be up-to-date to be let into the building. Call the Ohio one and ask them if its valid ID.

Apply for your passport anyways you need it.

[Hugglebuggles 60]

I think applying for your passport and AOS at the same time would be a good idea. Passports are being processed rather quickly right now, so chances are you would have it in time for your biometrics appointment anyway. If you were denied then at least you would know where you stand. It very well may not delay anything for you.

Biometrics can be rescheduled. According to my old bio letter you just need to send it to the service center doing your biometrics and they will reschedule you a new date and time and send you a new letter.

[Kittyfang 6]

Like I said in the other post Nebraska USCIS requires valid photo ID, I called them and they said it has to have the correct dates and be up-to-date to be let into the building. Call the Ohio one and ask them if its valid ID.

Apply for your passport anyways you need it.

I was trying to find the number for the Ohio center. Do you were how to find those? the only one I could see was the misinformation hot line.

I think applying for your passport and AOS at the same time would be a good idea. Passports are being processed rather quickly right now, so chances are you would have it in time for your biometrics appointment anyway. If you were denied then at least you would know where you stand. It very well may not delay anything for you.

Biometrics can be rescheduled. According to my old bio letter you just need to send it to the service center doing your biometrics and they will reschedule you a new date and time and send you a new letter.

I'm really hoping I can get a passport because this situation is killing me.

[Inky 1,110]

Cincinnati, OH.

The address is: USCIS Application Support Center 550 Main Street Room 1524 Cincinnati, OH 45202-5298.

Cleveland, OH.

The address is: USCIS Application Support Center Anthony J. Celebreeze Federal Building 1240 East 9th Street Room 1259 Cleveland, OH 44199-2085.

Columbus, OH.

The address is: USCIS Application Support Center 50 West Broad Street Leveque Tower Suite 650 Columbus, OH 43215-5903.

heres the info i found but if you go here it shows a little more if you click the links to the places, doesnt list the numbers maybe you can google search the address and pull up the number for them tho?

https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=of...or.statecode=OH

[Kittyfang 6]

Cincinnati, OH.

The address is: USCIS Application Support Center 550 Main Street Room 1524 Cincinnati, OH 45202-5298.

Cleveland, OH.

The address is: USCIS Application Support Center Anthony J. Celebreeze Federal Building 1240 East 9th Street Room 1259 Cleveland, OH 44199-2085.

Columbus, OH.

The address is: USCIS Application Support Center 50 West Broad Street Leveque Tower Suite 650 Columbus, OH 43215-5903.

heres the info i found but if you go here it shows a little more if you click the links to the places, doesnt list the numbers maybe you can google search the address and pull up the number for them tho?

https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=of...or.statecode=OH

Thank you! I will have to call them on Monday.

Ok, I just called Passport Canada again and explained the whole thing. The person told me that SIN card with Birth Certificate will be enough and that Student loans are provincial... so they should not affect the passport.

I will call back on Monday just to confirm and if I get the same reply, I will order one.

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One thing I wonder. Maybe someone can tell me.

Let say I do order my passport, and collectors start calling, can they garnish my husband's pay, or bank account? I would hate to drag him into this.

Edited October 23, 2009 by Kittyfang

[Sprailenes 47]

No they can't touch your husband. Don't worry.

[Kittyfang 6]

No they can't touch your husband. Don't worry.

Thank you. I would rather work off the debt in a quarry, breaking rocks... like in the old movies than have this mess reach my husband.

[thetreble 19]

Kitty, while I still think you are annoying, it is apparent to me that you are incredibly worried as you should be.

I really hope you can get it straight and I think you should apply for the passport. I don't think you should apply for AOS until you have a passport but that is just my opinion. I really don't see how you will be able to see this process through without a passport. Especially because of how you entered, which they have no record of, they aren't going to let you off with some expired documents.

When I came to the US as a visitor and then married a few months after that, I had my plane stub of my entering the US. That is what I used to determine my length of stay on my AOS application.