Robert Reich tell the truth (sometimes) on healthcare.

[Danno 1,228]

October 14, 2009

Robert Reich's cold honesty

Jack Kemp

Robert Reich advocated in detail the cutting off of funds to elder patients and the lower funding of medical research, fully accepting that more people would die. Newsbusters quotes him:

"We're going to have to, if you're very old, we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive...so we're going to let you die."

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Reich just claims he is "being honest" and that he is. "Let them eat cake" is now joined by "Let you die."

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It's interesting to note the crowd barely welcomes the concept of them "paying" more for health care but they welcomed the "unplugging" of Grandma to let her go early.. to save Healthcare dollars.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/1...ld_honesty.html

Edited October 16, 2009 by Danno

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Generally speaking, if there's a choice between who gets a replacement liver - they're always going to give it to the 25 y/o over the 80 y/o.

[Peikko 1,575]

Good one Danno! Keep it up!!!

[Niels Bohr 72]

Weird. I thought the Republicans were always against medical research.

[Peikko 1,575]

If you believe that a Doctor is going to recommend treatment regardless of age or life expectancy, this is the line of reasoning you are going to get.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Even in the current system (indeed most health systems in the world, I'd imagine) - a Dr will rule against performing a traumatic surgery on an elderly patient if they're not likely to survive the procedure or likely complications.

Its all about discretion.

[Peikko 1,575]

I understand it, Danno has the hots for Ms Palin, it's that simple

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Sarah is pretty.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

People are too wrapped up in spinning the issue to see what is obvious and has been common practice for the longest time.

The only reason the Palin's of the world are making these kinds of arguments is to object to health reform (in general) at any cost and use issues that are already present in the current health system as criticisms of future reforms.

Not only are their claims irrelevant, they're deeply dishonest

Sarah is pretty.

She's a wanker

[Danno 1,228]

I understand it, Danno has the hots for Ms Palin, it's that simple

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

She can ####### me anytime.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I can't see the video here at work, but it appears they are trying to say Jack Kemp wrote the article? He's been dead before this was written?

[Danno 1,228]

Even in the current system (indeed most health systems in the world, I'd imagine) - a Dr will rule against performing a traumatic surgery on an elderly patient if they're not likely to survive the procedure or likely complications.

Its all about discretion.

Awwe, come on Geno, no one is even talking about doing procedures in which the patient might not survive, thats a medical decsion... Clearly this is about allocating funds.

The reality is panels will be convened to determine guide lines about what will and will not be done for whom, and these decisions are based on the "best use" of limited funds.

[trailmix 77]

Well that makes absolute sense - to make best use of limited funds. To imply that means that the elderly will just be 'let go' is ludicrious - unless of course you are implying that the American people as a community are too stupid to stop this from happening. Are you implying that?

Edited October 16, 2009 by trailmix

[Peikko 1,575]

Even in the current system (indeed most health systems in the world, I'd imagine) - a Dr will rule against performing a traumatic surgery on an elderly patient if they're not likely to survive the procedure or likely complications.

Its all about discretion.

Awwe, come on Geno, no one is even talking about doing procedures in which the patient might not survive, thats a medical decsion... Clearly this is about allocating funds.

The reality is panels will be convened to determine guide lines about what will and will not be done for whom, and these decisions are based on the "best use" of limited funds.

What you referring to is determined currently by a health insurance company that is only interested in its bottom line. There has never been limitless supplies of money to give every possible procedure to every patient even IF you can get a Dr to recommend it.

Clearly you want there to be some evil socialist plot involved and find one you will, even if that means ignoring current reality.

Edited October 16, 2009 by Madame Cleo