trouble filing 2009 taxes with itin

[gordis08 0]

we went to file taxes jointly at a famous tax place here in arizona for the 1st time .. we justmoved from wisconsin.. we were wating for tax refund for almost two weeks.. today tax placed called and asked us to come in.. I worked illigaly but have an itin to file taxespast years with no probems in wisconsin .. I went to the place and they said that irs didn't accept our tax filing and refused to file our taxes because the w2 had a social and I'm trying to file with an itin... they told me that I'm not sopoused to file. because the number on w2 was not mine.. and told me that if it did that in the past years I did fraud! I told them that itin is to file taxes if u don't have a ss# then wat the itin for?..they told me to be careful because I can get my self and my husband in trouble.. I don't know what to do I'm really freaking out and scared... please help

[himher 634]

Is the SS# on the W2 a valid SS#?

we went to file taxes jointly at a famous tax place here in arizona for the 1st time .. we justmoved from wisconsin.. we were wating for tax refund for almost two weeks.. today tax placed called and asked us to come in.. I worked illigaly but have an itin to file taxespast years with no probems in wisconsin .. I went to the place and they said that irs didn't accept our tax filing and refused to file our taxes because the w2 had a social and I'm trying to file with an itin... they told me that I'm not sopoused to file. because the number on w2 was not mine.. and told me that if it did that in the past years I did fraud! I told them that itin is to file taxes if u don't have a ss# then wat the itin for?..they told me to be careful because I can get my self and my husband in trouble.. I don't know what to do I'm really freaking out and scared... please help

[gordis08 0]

what do u mean valid... that's the social I been working with a fake #

[alexpapa 4]

what do u mean valid... that's the social I been working with a fake #

then you have commited fraud, and an attorney is your best bet right now

[himher 634]

That's what I meant. Can't help you on this one.

what do u mean valid... that's the social I been working with a fake #

[island_princess 2]

You are in BIG trouble.

[himher 634]

I'm not sure what the penalty is for using a false number. Sux to be you though.

5 Kansas City federal building workers indicted for using false social security numbers

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Five employees of a firm that contracts to operate the cafeteria at the Richard Bolling Federal Building were indicted today, in separate and unrelated cases, on charges related to using false Social Security numbers in order to gain employment. U.S. Attorney John F. Wood, Western District of Missouri, announced the indictments; the case was investigated by the Federal Protective Service, which is a program under U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Nilda A. Franco, 36, and Fania L. Garza, 27, both citizens of Guatemala residing in Kansas City, Kan., and Felipe Carreon, 29, Luis A. Carreon, 31, and Francisco J. Munoz-Carmona, 33, all citizens of Mexico residing in Kansas City, Mo., were charged in a series of indictments returned by a federal grand jury in Kansas City.

Each of the five defendants was employed by Aramark Services, the contractor that operates the cafeteria in the federal office building at 601 E. 12th St., Kansas City, Mo. Franco formerly worked in various positions before leaving employment with Aramark about a year ago; Garza, Felipe Carreon and Luis Carreon worked as cooks; Munoz-Carmona worked as a dishwasher.

Today's indictments charge each defendant with Social Security number fraud, identity theft, and making false statements to the government.

[LaL 418]

aridnere07 - are both the ITIN and the SSN your numbers?

[belinda63 3,053]

I believe what is being said here is the alien used a false, or borrowed without permission, SSN for years and even for the current employment for which they are filing taxes. Now when they filed the tax return, jointly, the itin was used and did not match the false SSN. Therefore there is now a link between the "borrowed" SSN and the real person.

Why they did this I do not know but it could mean big trouble. Identity theft is a major issue these days.

I would consult an attorney ASAP.

[Old Dominion 26]

You need a sharp lawyer. Even then, there is no way out of the fact that you have committed a serious crime.

[himher 634]

LaL the OP already stated that the SS number on the W2 is a fake number but the ITIN is not. This is a legal/criminal not immigration issue.

aridnere07 - are both the ITIN and the SSN your numbers?

[FRJ 0]

You need a sharp lawyer. Even then, there is no way out of the fact that you have committed a serious crime.

just a sidebar...does this affect your AOS, cuz u mentioned nothing about that..

[LaL 418]

I was only asking because I was thinking there might be a language barrier of some sort here. The initial post is unclear - and I wanted clarification because the followup posts are adding to the confusion.

LaL the OP already stated that the SS number on the W2 is a fake number but the ITIN is not. This is a legal/criminal not immigration issue.

aridnere07 - are both the ITIN and the SSN your numbers?

I guess I am wondering why would a w2 have a social rather than the itin on it.

[himher 634]

Without picking on any specific countries, it is common for some undocumented immigrants to get ID and social security cards (for entertainment purposes only) from local flea markets, etc, and subsequently use them for illegal employment. These are for instance available in flea markets in Houston, San Antonio, and other states that border places where undocumented immigrants illegally cross the border for work. The ITIN doesn't get you the job. The SS card does. So........the OP could not use the ITIN to get the job and the employer accepted the fake SS card. Since the fake card was used for employment, the W2 has the fake number. Again, this is strictly a criminal not immigration question.

From a story in Houston - for perusal:

.......U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) began its investigation into Action Rags following complaints in May 2007, leading investigators to locate and interview a number of former and current employees of the plant. According to the criminal complaint, the yearlong investigation revealed the following alleged criminal activity: the company did not complete I-9 forms to verify eligibility for employment; and the company hired undocumented aliens and paid them in cash until they were able to purchase fraudulent identity and social security cards from local flea markets......

......The enforcement action resulted in the administrative detention of more than 150 illegal aliens, most from Mexico, discovered working at the plant. According to the complaint, employees had to supply their own water in the plant, which was not air-conditioned and poorly ventilated......

I was only asking because I was thinking there might be a language barrier of some sort here. The initial post is unclear - and I wanted clarification because the followup posts are adding to the confusion.

LaL the OP already stated that the SS number on the W2 is a fake number but the ITIN is not. This is a legal/criminal not immigration issue.

aridnere07 - are both the ITIN and the SSN your numbers?

I guess I am wondering why would a w2 have a social rather than the itin on it.

[w1331 2]

we went to file taxes jointly at a famous tax place here in arizona for the 1st time .. we justmoved from wisconsin.. we were wating for tax refund for almost two weeks.. today tax placed called and asked us to come in.. I worked illigaly but have an itin to file taxespast years with no probems in wisconsin .. I went to the place and they said that irs didn't accept our tax filing and refused to file our taxes because the w2 had a social and I'm trying to file with an itin... they told me that I'm not sopoused to file. because the number on w2 was not mine.. and told me that if it did that in the past years I did fraud! I told them that itin is to file taxes if u don't have a ss# then wat the itin for?..they told me to be careful because I can get my self and my husband in trouble.. I don't know what to do I'm really freaking out and scared... please help

aridnere07,

You're not supposed to file taxes if you work illegally. I suggested that you speak with a good CPA and ask how to fix your previous tax problem. You can be in a BIG trouble with the IRS. Although working illegally is forgiven by USCIS, you might still have a problem with IRS since you've committed fraud by filing tax and worked illegally.