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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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My fiance just had her interview yesterday and she got the 221(g) form. A box on the form was checked stating that additional evidence is required. Apparently they want proof of our future plans regarding marriage in the United States. They listed several things such as a receipt of a wedding hall, a list of invited guests (address and phone numbers), receipts of wedding clothes, receipt of wedding food, and a receipt of court marriage appointment. They told her to submit these documents to the VFS ASAP and thats about it.

They barely spent any time on the evidence of past relationship (photos, phone records, plane tickets etc.). They were primarily asking questions about the future. The officer also asked why the pictures mostly only had my fiance and I in them, and not both of our families even though there was a picture of us with my mother and her aunt.

I am concerned about whats going to happen, has anyone here gone through a similar experience? Does this mean our case was denied?

By the way I'm 24 and shes 25, we have never been married and we don't have any children.

My fiance also mentioned that there were 3 or 4 other girls there who had interviews on the same day (one had her fiance waiting in the lobby who came all the way from LA) and they all got denials with similar information requested.

Any help or information would be greatly appreciated.

-Amit

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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They listed several things such as a receipt of a wedding hall, a list of invited guests (address and phone numbers), receipts of wedding clothes, receipt of wedding food, and a receipt of court marriage appointment. They told her to submit these documents to the VFS ASAP and thats about it.

Thats a strange request :unsure:


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They listed several things such as a receipt of a wedding hall, a list of invited guests (address and phone numbers), receipts of wedding clothes, receipt of wedding food, and a receipt of court marriage appointment. They told her to submit these documents to the VFS ASAP and thats about it.

Thats a strange request :unsure:

It does sound a bit strange frankly but no, you were not denied. Comply as exactly to their requests as possible, as soon as possible and expect a positive outcome.


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Uh, maybe someone should have reminded them you are a K-1 applicant, not a K-3, it's close to impossible to making wedding reservations on short notice in most places, second, no one can make solid plans until an actual visa is issued. The information they are requesting is not something that can reasonably be expected. I wouldn't be surprised if among the list of things on the USCIS website such as don't quit your job before getting a visa, is a note, don't book a wedding chapel... I don't know what your next step is, I'm guessing it's to just make that list happen, but it really seems like the right answer is to contact whoever is in charge at that embassy talk to them, this can't be a reasonable expectation of a k-1, it's like quitting a job before getting a visa...

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: New Zealand
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Very strange and unreasonable request. Seems they are just trying to make it harder for you to see if you are serious. No sense in fighting it as chances are it will just make it take even longer.

My advice is to do your very best to gather the information they are looking for asap. Simply pick a day and compile a list of the names and addresses of the people you think will be attending. It's virtually impossible to determine a date based on the fact that a couple can be stuck in AP for any length of time and we all know these things dont come cheap! I'm sure they understand that so maybe they're just testing to see what you come up with. So, do your very best. You may want to also include letters from your family members stating their support of your future marriage and relationship.

You will probably want to check in the Regional forums or your portals link as well to see what others have submitted.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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Thanks everybody, I thought I missed something but we were totally caught off guard. I never saw anything about showing proof of future plans. I will comply with the list and hopefully get it all out within about a week. I guess I'll make a reservation for a wedding hall sometime in February.

My fiance, who is an event planner, actually tried to explain to the officer that she would plan the wedding herself after coming to the United States. She explained that she would find a good location and help with all the preparations. The officer asked her, "How do I know you will actually get married to him after getting into the USA? Why if you just decide not to marry him, I need proof". He also asked about her parents and sister's Visa, because he expected that they would attend the marriage in the USA. My fiance explained that after she got her visa , they would get theres (for visiting) and try to make the wedding and/or the reception.

I'm also thinking this might have to do with the recent attacks in Mumbai and increased security.

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Thanks everybody, I thought I missed something but we were totally caught off guard. I never saw anything about showing proof of future plans. I will comply with the list and hopefully get it all out within about a week. I guess I'll make a reservation for a wedding hall sometime in February.

My fiance, who is an event planner, actually tried to explain to the officer that she would plan the wedding herself after coming to the United States. She explained that she would find a good location and help with all the preparations. The officer asked her, "How do I know you will actually get married to him after getting into the USA? Why if you just decide not to marry him, I need proof". He also asked about her parents and sister's Visa, because he expected that they would attend the marriage in the USA. My fiance explained that after she got her visa , they would get theres (for visiting) and try to make the wedding and/or the reception.

I'm also thinking this might have to do with the recent attacks in Mumbai and increased security.

It IS a completely unreasonable request, IMO but you gotta do what you gotta do. I'd start thinking about whether there's anything in your case or that happened in the early part of the interview that would have prompted such doubt on the CO's part.


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My first fiancee was denied for lack of a bona fide relationship. My senator found out one reason was lack of pics of me, her and her family.

It may help to send more pics with your other evidence if you have some.


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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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Thanks everybody, I thought I missed something but we were totally caught off guard. I never saw anything about showing proof of future plans. I will comply with the list and hopefully get it all out within about a week. I guess I'll make a reservation for a wedding hall sometime in February.

My fiance, who is an event planner, actually tried to explain to the officer that she would plan the wedding herself after coming to the United States. She explained that she would find a good location and help with all the preparations. The officer asked her, "How do I know you will actually get married to him after getting into the USA? Why if you just decide not to marry him, I need proof". He also asked about her parents and sister's Visa, because he expected that they would attend the marriage in the USA. My fiance explained that after she got her visa , they would get theres (for visiting) and try to make the wedding and/or the reception.

I'm also thinking this might have to do with the recent attacks in Mumbai and increased security.

HI AMIT MY FIANCE IS TOO GONNA HAVE INTERVIEW AT MUMBAI. BUT U DONT WORRY HAVE THIS THINGS DONE N VISA IS SURE.

THEY JUST NEED THIS, GIVE IT. ALL THE BEST,

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: India
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Amit,

I would recommend gathering what ever you can at this point and get it back into VFS. You are correct in stating that what they are asking for is unreasonable but maybe you have some options gathered? Potential halls and correspondences from them? Anything? Did you have an engagement ceremony? Can you include all of that?

I'm guessing the requests are coded in the 221(g) to fill out the forms - I wonder if he used one for a K3 or CR1 instead of the K1's list. My first 221(g) had requests identical to others on vj asking for the engagement ceremony info, etc. Same text exactly and in the same order - identical.

I'm now in the midst of my second 221(g) from New Delhi - I think we covered what was needed in the first. I had my church write a letter stating that I had been in touch with the clergy over the last year discussing premartial counseling and wedding planning. Do you have anything at least discussed with some sort of clergy or municipal office? Could they write up something for you?

I firmly believe the consulates/Embassy in India have their own protocols and rules - the hoops you need to jump thru are amazingly insane.

Good luck - just get them what you can; statements from friends, family, coworkers, your landlord [if you've told them you have a fiancee coming over shortly] - all of those can help too if they are questioning the bonafides [just make sure they are notarized].

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Thanks to everybody who replied...

My fiance got her k1 Visa today!

I had sent the consulate exactly what they listed in the 221g and there was no second interview. They just shipped her passport back with the visa!

yay! Congrats!! :thumbs:


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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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You're one of the lucky ones, si man! :)


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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