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hello all, i was just wondering what original documents i need for this whole visa process...so far i have my birth certs in org, marriage cert and thats IT. what documents do i need from my wife's side.(in india) . Also if she sends me the org. wouldnt she need them when she goes for the visa? or how does that work> please advice..thanks


Married 2/14/2008

Back to U.S from India: 3/30/2008

I 130 Sent (normal mail) 3/31/2008

NOA1 4/08/2008

Touched 4/11/2008

Touched 6/10/2008

Touched 6/18/2008

Touched 7/08/2008

Approved 7/08/2008

Touched 7/09/2008

NOA2 IN HAND 7/14/2008

NVC Received : 7/17/2008

Emailed DS-3032: 7/18/2008

IIN # : 7/18/2008

Email DS3032: 7/18/2008 (no auto email again)

Email DS3032: 7/19/2008 ( auto email this time)

Paid online AOS fee: 7/21/2008

AOS fee and DS-3032 generated: 7/22/2008

NVC accepted the AOS fee bill: 7/25/2008 (printed out bar code for I864)

Mailed I864 7/25/2008

Hard copy received DS-3032, AOS fee bill: 7/26/2008

Mailed DS-3032 7/28/2008...cant waste time waiting for the email

NVC received I864 7/28/2008 (per usps)

NVC received DS-3032 7/29/2008 (per usps)

DS-3032 Entered into the system 7/29/08

Paid IV bill fee 7/31/2008

Online payment status PAID 8/1/2008

AVR changed to IV fee bill generated: 8/1/2008

Received Hard copy IV fee bill 8/9/2008

Mailed DS-230 8/12/2008

NVC received DS-230 8/13/2008

DS-230 entered into system: 8/14/2008

Case Completed: 8/25/2008

Peace Out NVC: 09/16/2008

Hello...... Mumbai: 9/19/2008

VFS visit: 9/22/2008

Medical: 9/26/2008

Interview Date 10/01/2008 VISA GRANTED

POE (O'hare) 10/10/2008 :( there goes my freedom......new life begins :)

Applied for SSN: 10/14/2008

Received SSN: 10/23/2008

Got Ohio Permit: 10/31/08, Took the test, Failed. Retest 11/1/08 Failed, Retest 11/4/08 Passed, Got her license, no road test required in Ohio, she had international license!

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Don't give any original documents like birth certificate, 10th class certificate, etc., unless asked for. Usually they only need to see them at the Consulate interview, then they return them back. Until then, sending copies of everything is fine. :yes:


***Nagaraju & Eileen***
K1 (Fiance Visa)
Oct 18, 2006: NOA1
Feb 8, 2007: NOA2
April 13, 2007: INTERVIEW in Chennai -Approved
May 25, 2007: USA Arrival! EAD at JFK
June 15, 2007: Married
AOS (Adjustment of Status)
June 21, 2007: AOS/EAD Submitted
Sept 18, 2007: AOS Interview - APPROVED!!
ROC (Removing of Conditions)
June 23, 2009: Sent in I-751 packet
Sept 11, 2009: APPROVED!!
Sept 18, 2009: Received 10-year Green Card!

Naturalization
July 15, 2010: Sent N-400 packet
July 23, 2010: NOA Notice date
Oct 15, 2010: Citizenship Interview - Passed!
Nov 15, 2010: Oath Ceremony in Fresno, CA
Nov 24, 2010: Did SSN and Applied for Passport
Dec 6, 2010: Passport Arrives
Dec 7, 2010: Sent for Indian Passport Surrender Certificate
Dec 27, 2010: Surrender Certificate Arrives
Jan 3, 2011: Sent for Overseas Citizenship of India Card
March 1, 2011: Received OCI card!

Divorce

Feb 2015:​ Found out he was cheating (prostitutes / escorts)

​May 2015: Divorce Final

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Don't give any original documents like birth certificate, 10th class certificate, etc., unless asked for. Usually they only need to see them at the Consulate interview, then they return them back. Until then, sending copies of everything is fine. :yes:

I am gonna send my original cerificate instead of certified copies, although getting certified copy task is frustrating and kind of impossible in some places. i tried to get certified copy of marriage certificate from DC office, first they refuse to give it and when I presurise do so then after a week they sent a photocopy of my marriage cert with their superinteded's sign without any seal or stamp but as we know without stamp it is worthless so i have duplicate copy of birth certificate(translated), original of marriage cert,PCC from SSP,copy of passport.

waiting for PCC from Passport office.


My Timeline

- - - - -

USCIS Process

Nov 7th, 2007 Petition I-130 to NSC

Jan 22nd, 2008 recieved by CSC

Jan 28th, 2008 received NOA1

Apr 2nd, 2008 received NOA2

NVC Process

Apr 22th, 2008 recevied Case number(generated and sent on april 14th)

Apr 22th, 2008 recevied DS-3032/AOS Bill

Apr 24th, 2008 Sent AOS Bill to NVC

Apr 24th, 2008 emailed NVC for Choice of Agent.

May 2nd, 2008 email accepted for Choice of Agent

May 5th, 2008 Immigrant Visa Fee bill generated

May 8th, 2008 Got IIN and paid Immigrant visa bill Online

May 9th, 2008 packet of information generated

May 12th, 2008 AOS package sent to NVC

June 12th,2008 DS-230 received by NVC

June 16th,2008 DS-230 entered into system

June 19th,2008 Case complete..I am happy.

July 14th.2008 found out my interview date.....which is 5th august.

July 15th,2008 Case forwarded to New Delhi embassy.

July 22nd,2008 Medical Done.

July 25th,2008 VFS fee paid.

Aug 5th,2008 Visa Approved.

Aug 17th, 2008 expected POE.

Aug 27th, 2008 Social Security Number received.

Sep 7th, 2008 Green Card received.

______________________________________________

May 22th, 2010 Filed i-751 to remove conditions.

May 30th, 2010 Received Notice of action

July 30th, 2010 Received Appointment letter for Biometrics

Sep 23th, 2010 Application Approved

Sep 28th, 2010 Green Card Received

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Most people send in a copy (photocopy/xerox) of their certified marriage certificate and it works. I got 3 certified copies (I believe they were $13 each) by going in person to Recorder's office, and sent in one with AOS packet. At my interview they said they could not find the marriage certificate in my packet! :angry: So I handed over the photocopy I had made of it (not even certified copy), and all was fine. :thumbs:

Of course this was AOS not to get the visa. But I would suggest definitely NOT getting rid of your only original copy!


***Nagaraju & Eileen***
K1 (Fiance Visa)
Oct 18, 2006: NOA1
Feb 8, 2007: NOA2
April 13, 2007: INTERVIEW in Chennai -Approved
May 25, 2007: USA Arrival! EAD at JFK
June 15, 2007: Married
AOS (Adjustment of Status)
June 21, 2007: AOS/EAD Submitted
Sept 18, 2007: AOS Interview - APPROVED!!
ROC (Removing of Conditions)
June 23, 2009: Sent in I-751 packet
Sept 11, 2009: APPROVED!!
Sept 18, 2009: Received 10-year Green Card!

Naturalization
July 15, 2010: Sent N-400 packet
July 23, 2010: NOA Notice date
Oct 15, 2010: Citizenship Interview - Passed!
Nov 15, 2010: Oath Ceremony in Fresno, CA
Nov 24, 2010: Did SSN and Applied for Passport
Dec 6, 2010: Passport Arrives
Dec 7, 2010: Sent for Indian Passport Surrender Certificate
Dec 27, 2010: Surrender Certificate Arrives
Jan 3, 2011: Sent for Overseas Citizenship of India Card
March 1, 2011: Received OCI card!

Divorce

Feb 2015:​ Found out he was cheating (prostitutes / escorts)

​May 2015: Divorce Final

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so lets see if NVC needs her Org. birth certs and i send those in wouldnt she need them at the consulate? or would the mumbai consulate know allready that the org. birtthcert is at NVC.\?...


Married 2/14/2008

Back to U.S from India: 3/30/2008

I 130 Sent (normal mail) 3/31/2008

NOA1 4/08/2008

Touched 4/11/2008

Touched 6/10/2008

Touched 6/18/2008

Touched 7/08/2008

Approved 7/08/2008

Touched 7/09/2008

NOA2 IN HAND 7/14/2008

NVC Received : 7/17/2008

Emailed DS-3032: 7/18/2008

IIN # : 7/18/2008

Email DS3032: 7/18/2008 (no auto email again)

Email DS3032: 7/19/2008 ( auto email this time)

Paid online AOS fee: 7/21/2008

AOS fee and DS-3032 generated: 7/22/2008

NVC accepted the AOS fee bill: 7/25/2008 (printed out bar code for I864)

Mailed I864 7/25/2008

Hard copy received DS-3032, AOS fee bill: 7/26/2008

Mailed DS-3032 7/28/2008...cant waste time waiting for the email

NVC received I864 7/28/2008 (per usps)

NVC received DS-3032 7/29/2008 (per usps)

DS-3032 Entered into the system 7/29/08

Paid IV bill fee 7/31/2008

Online payment status PAID 8/1/2008

AVR changed to IV fee bill generated: 8/1/2008

Received Hard copy IV fee bill 8/9/2008

Mailed DS-230 8/12/2008

NVC received DS-230 8/13/2008

DS-230 entered into system: 8/14/2008

Case Completed: 8/25/2008

Peace Out NVC: 09/16/2008

Hello...... Mumbai: 9/19/2008

VFS visit: 9/22/2008

Medical: 9/26/2008

Interview Date 10/01/2008 VISA GRANTED

POE (O'hare) 10/10/2008 :( there goes my freedom......new life begins :)

Applied for SSN: 10/14/2008

Received SSN: 10/23/2008

Got Ohio Permit: 10/31/08, Took the test, Failed. Retest 11/1/08 Failed, Retest 11/4/08 Passed, Got her license, no road test required in Ohio, she had international license!

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hi,

You will need the original documents of the Beneficary more than the person who is sponsoring.

Jigi


Feb 1,2007 - I-130 Reached USCIS.

Feb 4,2007 - I-130 accepted > Get USCIS case Number NOA1.

May 8 ,2007- GET NVC Case Number > NOA2.

June 16 ,2007- Get Order from NVC to pay 70$.

July 2 ,2007- Get DS-3032 in India.

July 7,2007 - DS-3032 choice of address agent entered in NVC.

July 14 ,2007- Get I-864.

July 18 ,2007- I-864 Enters NVC.

July 29 ,2007- Get Order to Pay 380$ fee.

Aug 3 ,2007- 380$ Fee Reached St Louis.

Aug 25,2007 - NVC & St Louis People receive photocopy of my payment with USPS receipt.

After WAITING for 37 days.

Sept 10,2007 - 380$ fee encashed.

Sept 24,2007 - Receive DS-230 in Mail.

Sept 25,2007 - DS-230 despatched.

Sept 26,2007- DS-230 Delivered.

Oct 1,2007 - NVC has DS-230.

Oct 12, 2007 - DS-230 Reviewed. Case Complete

Oct 16, 2007 - Case at Embassy.

Oct 25, 2007- Interview Letter Despatched from Embassy.

Nov 3, 2007 - Recieved Interview Letter.

Dec 1, 2007 - Medical Exam .

I GOT IT

Jan 16 - I am in USA

April 15 2008 - Get my Drivers License.

I-751 Lifting Conditions at California Service Center

November 12, 2009 - I-751 Sent via USPS Express Mail

November 13, 2009 - Receipt of I-1751 Fee

November 20, 2009 - Arrested on Domestic Battery(Had argument with wife)

December 18, 2009 - Biometrics Completed at 9 am.

January 13, 2010 - Receive I-797E Notice for more evidence

February 16, 2010 - Mail reaches Californa Service Center( Next day of Preseidents Day)

February 19, 2010 - Card Production Ordered. Status now IR1

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where do u get the "certified true copy" in India

Marriage certificate -------- local registrar can't issue certified copy

Birth Certificate -------- mucipal office won't issue certified copy either

PCC --------- you can ask for duplicate PCC form the Passport Office and they will give that

PCC Local Police ----- they can't certifiy copies either

so now who is India can certify Xerox/Photocopy to make it a "certified copy" .......... even on Madras embassy's website it talks about certified true copy doesn't say who needs to certify them ........... i am asking to DS-230 ..... i can't sent the original to U.S with DS-230 because i will need them at the time of interview

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It's confusing I agree. When I went to get a certified copy of our marriage certificate here in USA, the clerk explained to me that the "original document" was never given out, but always kept on record in the county clerk's office. But I could order "certified copies", which actually look like the original but are not. So maybe all the "original documents" we have are actually "certified copies".

The language is the key here. Maybe in India they call it a original document and you can get more than one copy of it. For instance if you "lose" the birth certificate won't they issue another one, for a fee? Maybe it is the same as in USA, that they NEVER give out the "original" document but they are all "certified copies."


***Nagaraju & Eileen***
K1 (Fiance Visa)
Oct 18, 2006: NOA1
Feb 8, 2007: NOA2
April 13, 2007: INTERVIEW in Chennai -Approved
May 25, 2007: USA Arrival! EAD at JFK
June 15, 2007: Married
AOS (Adjustment of Status)
June 21, 2007: AOS/EAD Submitted
Sept 18, 2007: AOS Interview - APPROVED!!
ROC (Removing of Conditions)
June 23, 2009: Sent in I-751 packet
Sept 11, 2009: APPROVED!!
Sept 18, 2009: Received 10-year Green Card!

Naturalization
July 15, 2010: Sent N-400 packet
July 23, 2010: NOA Notice date
Oct 15, 2010: Citizenship Interview - Passed!
Nov 15, 2010: Oath Ceremony in Fresno, CA
Nov 24, 2010: Did SSN and Applied for Passport
Dec 6, 2010: Passport Arrives
Dec 7, 2010: Sent for Indian Passport Surrender Certificate
Dec 27, 2010: Surrender Certificate Arrives
Jan 3, 2011: Sent for Overseas Citizenship of India Card
March 1, 2011: Received OCI card!

Divorce

Feb 2015:​ Found out he was cheating (prostitutes / escorts)

​May 2015: Divorce Final

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In india they keep a copy(just a legal sized green page) with them for case refrence and they give you piece of paper. in other words they instruct you to print two page, one for them and another for you.

i asked them about certified copy, first she refused and she said there is nothing like certified copy, in her eyes certified means notarised.

After 2-3 visits she told me to go through RTI(Right to information ACT),Even that was her trick, I applied through RTI and after 6 days got a photocopy of my marriage certificate which was signed by one of their superinteded butnot stamped.

The conclusion is we need to send original certificate.


My Timeline

- - - - -

USCIS Process

Nov 7th, 2007 Petition I-130 to NSC

Jan 22nd, 2008 recieved by CSC

Jan 28th, 2008 received NOA1

Apr 2nd, 2008 received NOA2

NVC Process

Apr 22th, 2008 recevied Case number(generated and sent on april 14th)

Apr 22th, 2008 recevied DS-3032/AOS Bill

Apr 24th, 2008 Sent AOS Bill to NVC

Apr 24th, 2008 emailed NVC for Choice of Agent.

May 2nd, 2008 email accepted for Choice of Agent

May 5th, 2008 Immigrant Visa Fee bill generated

May 8th, 2008 Got IIN and paid Immigrant visa bill Online

May 9th, 2008 packet of information generated

May 12th, 2008 AOS package sent to NVC

June 12th,2008 DS-230 received by NVC

June 16th,2008 DS-230 entered into system

June 19th,2008 Case complete..I am happy.

July 14th.2008 found out my interview date.....which is 5th august.

July 15th,2008 Case forwarded to New Delhi embassy.

July 22nd,2008 Medical Done.

July 25th,2008 VFS fee paid.

Aug 5th,2008 Visa Approved.

Aug 17th, 2008 expected POE.

Aug 27th, 2008 Social Security Number received.

Sep 7th, 2008 Green Card received.

______________________________________________

May 22th, 2010 Filed i-751 to remove conditions.

May 30th, 2010 Received Notice of action

July 30th, 2010 Received Appointment letter for Biometrics

Sep 23th, 2010 Application Approved

Sep 28th, 2010 Green Card Received

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Well, I don’t know if I should sent the “original” to NVC … if its lost..its not easy to get another one …. I was thinking about having the First-Class magistrate certifies the documents and sending it in. First-Class magistrate is the highest body who can certify anything in India

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