Vigilante Baker parents bashed daughter's tormentor

[Darnell 8,478]

What happened to the good ol days when two kids could call each other out to the alley, duke it out and shake hands afterward?

The laws changed. Police are in the schools now.

So, if you have a fight after school - both of the 'perpetrators' are taken away, into custody, rarely to been 'at that school' again.

Welcome to USA !!

in other news.

Ya, bullying is huge problem outside of the USA. Japan first reported stats on it, this century, then other countries stepped up with counting things, and then there were the 'national campaigns against bullying' in tv, print, and radio.

There's been a bit of movement last year in the USA about it, but honestly? There are larger issues with bullying in the USA, most schools have zero-tolerance policies in place about this (sorta missed out on the national ad campaigns, Columbine shifted the focus a lot, made much 'zero-tolerance' across the land, after that).

Who was studying Gene Hunt's prior posts, anyway? come on...

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

BY, I work for the police, remember? I can't say that I know anything about Oz cops, I can attest to what goes on with the ones here, and by here, I mean the department I work at. Police have broad latitude when it comes to searches, especially since 9/11. But that does not mean that they can just randomly go up to anyone and search them for no reason, that is insane and illogical. You have to have a reasonable belief that someone is going to, or has commited a crime. That seems quite broad, and a lot of people do wish to more narrowly define that, including the ACLU. But, as it is today, it is quite easy.

I do watch that show Gangland, a little too much The only gangs I've actually heard about in Aus. are biker gangs and immigrant gangs from PI, Vietnam, Cambodia. I don't have the time to research it more.

Thats a very scary thought! Doughnuts get your fresh hot doughnuts!

Edited February 11, 2010 by Col. Lingus

[Ban Hammer 12,829]

BY, I work for the police, remember? I can't say that I know anything about Oz cops, I can attest to what goes on with the ones here, and by here, I mean the department I work at. Police have broad latitude when it comes to searches, especially since 9/11. But that does not mean that they can just randomly go up to anyone and search them for no reason, that is insane and illogical. You have to have a reasonable belief that someone is going to, or has commited a crime. That seems quite broad, and a lot of people do wish to more narrowly define that, including the ACLU. But, as it is today, it is quite easy.

I do watch that show Gangland, a little too much The only gangs I've actually heard about in Aus. are biker gangs and immigrant gangs from PI, Vietnam, Cambodia. I don't have the time to research it more.

you mean you missed the road warrior gangs they had on a few weeks ago?

[The_Dude 1,142]

you mean you missed the road warrior gangs they had on a few weeks ago?

LOL

[Darnell 8,478]

BooYah .. that 'bullying' piece was for Australia.

You can't find the same news stories in the USA about bullying - most school administrators call the cops, the cops pick up the kids in the principals office, and they're gone. G-O-N-E.

These days, is not 'fair' to compare bullying outside the USA, to bullying INSIDE the USA - as MOST countries outside of the USA - do NOT HAVE a ZERO-TOLERANCE policy in place.

please don't dig up the charts and graphs on this one, ya? that news report from Gene Hunt is 3.5+ years old.

[Ali G. 37]

BY, I work for the police, remember? I can't say that I know anything about Oz cops, I can attest to what goes on with the ones here, and by here, I mean the department I work at. Police have broad latitude when it comes to searches, especially since 9/11. But that does not mean that they can just randomly go up to anyone and search them for no reason, that is insane and illogical. You have to have a reasonable belief that someone is going to, or has commited a crime. That seems quite broad, and a lot of people do wish to more narrowly define that, including the ACLU. But, as it is today, it is quite easy.

I do watch that show Gangland, a little too much The only gangs I've actually heard about in Aus. are biker gangs and immigrant gangs from PI, Vietnam, Cambodia. I don't have the time to research it more.

I'll give you another example. I was recently in the ghetto. You see people loitering and chilling in street corners right. Stock stand sight in America. One would think, the police would be on the beat, showing their presence as they do in the UK or Aus. Nope, as that is apparently 'profiling' and 'raaaaacist'. Instead, I receive a ticket for driving on a four lane road, with nothing built on either side, with a medium in the middle, for doing 50. I thought the speed limit was 45, as it usually is with such roads, but the limit had been reduced to 35. Who better to target than a rich white guy right?? Especially since proactively targeting criminal would just be raaaaacist..

Australia has small and limited biker gangs. However, the police are on them like a hawk. No such thing as 'you're violating my rights or freedom man' over there. The duty of the police is to protect the safety of the community period. Not to laughable ensure that a criminal's constitutional rights are not violated. How f'n idiotic is that..

ACLU in Australia? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... izzit?

Two separate points.

Edited February 11, 2010 by Booyah

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

The laws changed. Police are in the schools now.

So, if you have a fight after school - both of the 'perpetrators' are taken away, into custody, rarely to been 'at that school' again.

Welcome to USA !!

If they are caught! My son tells me the kids go off campus they put in place some look-outs and the two parties go at it. What is reported is but a fraction of what really goes on.

[The_Dude 1,142]

I'll give you another example. I was recently in the ghetto. You see people loitering and chilling in street corners right. Stock stand sight in America. One would think, the police would be on the beat, showing their presence as they do in the UK or Aus. Nope, as that is apparently 'profiling' and 'raaaaacist'. Instead, I receive a ticket for driving on a four lane road, with nothing built on either side, with a medium in the middle, for doing 50. I thought the speed limit was 45, as it usually is with such roads, but the limit had been reduced to 35. Who better to target than a rich white guy right?? Especially since proactively targeting criminal would just be raaaaacist..

Two points here BY. First, just because you don't see a patrol unit, doesn't necissarily mean they aren't present in the area. Second, it is counter productive to shakedown every single person you think has a little bindle of pot in their pocket. There is a bigger picture here.

You have to be joking with your outrage at geting pulled over and cited. Why would a well off white person be driving through the ghetto? It's a well known scenario in which people are trolling for drugs. So, were you looking for some crack BY?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Two points here BY. First, just because you don't see a patrol unit, doesn't necissarily mean they aren't present in the area. Second, it is counter productive to shakedown every single person you think has a little bindle of pot in their pocket. There is a bigger picture here.

You have to be joking with your outrage at geting pulled over and cited. Why would a well off white person be driving through the ghetto? It's a well known scenario in which people are trolling for drugs. So, were you looking for some crack BY?

Your PROFILING? You should be ashamed!

[Scott & Lai 12]

What happened to the good ol days when two kids could call each other out to the alley, duke it out and shake hands afterward?

Those were the "good ol' days"? What I saw in school was the strong and thuggish preying upon the weak who minded their own business. What happened to the good ol days when kids who simply wanted to learn could do so without threat of violence from their classmates?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Those were the "good ol' days"? What I saw in school was the strong and thuggish preying upon the weak who minded their own business. What happened to the good ol days when kids who simply wanted to learn could do so without threat of violence from their classmates?

Huh, we always helped the ones that were being picked on. Unlike today when other kids stand-by and laugh.

[Scott & Lai 12]

Huh, we always helped the ones that were being picked on. Unlike today when other kids stand-by and laugh.

How long ago were you in school??

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

How long ago were you in school??

80's

[Scott & Lai 12]

80's

I graduated from high school in '83...

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

This is how people should react. When the law fails to protect, due to disingenuous groups like the ACLU protecting the perpetrators rights, we need to take matters into our own hands.

Two words...concealed carry.