Why Lorna Brett Howard Switched from Clinton to Obama

[SMOKE 1,426]

Because until a certain point, it isn't a person. It's a cluster of cells that is more like a cancer or a parasite than a human.

I don't think anyone wants to play this game.

Indeed. I don't think I've heard an original argument on this subject in quite some time.

thats pretty original.

http://picturesofpregnancystages.net/pregn...ages-week-8.htm

how many abortion happen before week 8?

[chispas 0]

It might just be a simple case of her wanting to support her neighbor. Chicago folks stickin' together

[Peikko 1,575]

while i'm in the pro choice camp, i don't label those in the pro life camp "those people"

Nor do I, that's not why I called this person one of 'those' people.

I'll draw you a metaphor. Some people see arguments as black and white. The more passionately they believe in the 'white' side of the argument, the more difficult it is for them to see anyone who doesn't agree with what they say as anything but 'black'.

[Ban Hammer 12,830]

while i'm in the pro choice camp, i don't label those in the pro life camp "those people"

Nor do I, that's not why I called this person one of 'those' people.

I'll draw you a metaphor. Some people see arguments as black and white. The more passionately they believe in the 'white' side of the argument, the more difficult it is for them to see anyone who doesn't agree with what they say as anything but 'black'.

yes, you did. and keep working on those quoting skills, you'll get it right someday.

[Peikko 1,575]

I am not surprised you don't understand this Charles. Bigger pictures require bigger vision.

[Ban Hammer 12,830]

I am not surprised you don't understand this Charles. Bigger pictures require bigger vision.

need glasses?

[SMOKE 1,426]

Unjustified murder?

Yes, abortion for no other reason than the woman couldn't control her sexual urges and now doesn't want a baby, is unjustified murder of an unborn human being. Needless to say, I am NOT pro "choice" if the choice is to murder another human without just cause.

Ah, one of those.

while i'm in the pro choice camp, i don't label those in the pro life camp "those people"

Nor do I, that's not why I called this person one of 'those' people.

I'll draw you a metaphor. Some people see arguments as black and white. The more passionately they believe in the 'white' side of the argument, the more difficult it is for them to see anyone who doesn't agree with what they say as anything but 'black'.

yes, you did. and keep working on those quoting skills, you'll get it right someday.

I am not surprised you don't understand this Charles. Bigger pictures require bigger vision.

[Peikko 1,575]

I am not the one who is myopic. If I wanted to have an argument about the abortion debate, I would have. Clearly, that was not what I was getting at.

I see there are two who don't understand the metaphor. Any more?

[PlatyPius 5]

Because until a certain point, it isn't a person. It's a cluster of cells that is more like a cancer or a parasite than a human.

That describes a large portion of the population.... should they all be taken out (1)... at the mercy of a woman who's supposed to protect them? (2)

(1) Yes.

(2) And this is one reason I will never vote for Hillary Clinton.

Edited January 24, 2008 by PlatyPius

[LaL 418]

you guys.... relax please!

[Alhamdulillah 0]

Because until a certain point, it isn't a person. It's a cluster of cells that is more like a cancer or a parasite than a human.

That describes a large portion of the population.... should they all be taken out (1)... at the mercy of a woman who's supposed to protect them? (2)

(1) Yes.

(2) And this is one reason I will never vote for Hillary Clinton.

Muslims who make comments (IN JEST) that a large portion of the population should be taken out get a free ticket to gitmo so I'll refrain.

I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she were the only name on the ballot.

Edited January 24, 2008 by Alhamdulillah

[Alhamdulillah 0]

you guys.... relax please!

No one's shooting.... it's just a discussion

[AnewKINDofFEELIN 0]

I am not the one who is myopic. If I wanted to have an argument about the abortion debate, I would have. Clearly, that was not what I was getting at.

I see there are two who don't understand the metaphor. Any more?

So you just resort to ad hominem attacks.

The person has a different perspective than you, so you insinuate that they are one of "those people."

[Peikko 1,575]

Not at all.

If the person had said, I don't wish to support Obama/Clinton because they don't support pro life that would be one thing. However, that's not what was said. The person said, I will not support either candidate because in their eyes such support equates to support of:

Yes, abortion for no other reason than the woman couldn't control her sexual urges and now doesn't want a baby, is unjustified murder of an unborn human being. Needless to say, I am NOT pro "choice" if the choice is to murder another human without just cause.

That is clearly a very distorted view of why either of the candidates is not pro life, hence my metaphor. This person can't see the grey in the abortion debate. It's not a question of 'if you are with us you are against us'. People have all sorts of reasons for not being 'pro life' and I don't think many of them are so because they want women to be able to murder unborn babies.

Edited January 24, 2008 by Purple_Hibiscus

[Peikko 1,575]

I also thought it was obvious that I wanted to point out the disingenuousnesses of suggesting that pro choice candidates support unjustified murder without getting into the whole abortion debate. However, it seems I was wrong.

Edited January 24, 2008 by Purple_Hibiscus