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Marriage Registration in India

#1 waitingforwifey

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 03:15 PM

Hi All,

This is a question for people who know about the marriage registration system in India. I have a friend who is US citizen and he got married in New Delhi India. They had traditional hindu marriage however they could not register the marriage in India as the requirement for this process is that US citizen and his spouse would need to apply for marriage registration 30 days in advance. As the US citizen only had few days vacation and could not stay there for 30 or more days they were not able to register the marriage. After coming to US he filed the I-130 petition for his wife however marriage certificate is one of the requirements. He submitted all the evidence including marriage photos, sworn affidavits etc to prove the marriage. Then USCIS asked him to furnish the marriage certificate. The marriage registrar in India said that for them to register the marriage and issue a marriage certificate the US citizen spouse would have to physically come to India. Does anyone here know circumvent this situation withou having the US citizen to fly all the way to India to register the marriage?? Has anyone been in this situation before?? Please provide any ideas you might have.

Thanks
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#2 jn052707

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 04:51 PM

Hey,

I had to go through that situation myself. My wife and I were married on Feb 21st in a very small ceremony just to get the marriage certificate. We had still planned on getting married with a traditional large wedding in May but we would've already started the visa process with the marriage certificate in hand.

Unfortunately the Indian government felt differently. When you marry an Indian marries a foreigner in India then you have to apply for the certificate and wait no less than 32 days. The window to get the certificate is 32-90 days after applying. I was lucky since I was back for the big celebration in May and under the 90 day mark. It sucks but I think your friend will have to be there in person. I was told that it "might" be possible to get the application process started over the phone as long as you're in person when you come to finalize the marriage certificate. You may want to look into that although I didn't do that and it may not work.
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I-130

6/6 - Sent I-130
6/21 - NOA1 Received date
1/23 - Touch (cmon just approve already!)
1/23 - Approved (still not updated on USCIS website)
1/29 - Received hardcopy letter in the mail.

I-129

7/2 - Sent I-129 form to Chicago
7/20 - NOA1 received in mail (Rec. Date 7/6)
8/7 - Case transferred and pending at CSC
12/4 -TOUCHED!!!!!! (we didn't call or anything so I hope this is legit)
12/11 - RFE Email Notice Received (Waiting for snail mail)
1/3 - Back from India and sending off two pics of my wife since CSC lost the last two. (Approval next week please?!)
1/14 - Back in business. RFE response received at CSC and back to processing.
1/15 - Touch
1/23 - Touch (Please...)
1/23 - APPROVED!!!!!! best 3:30 am wake up call I've ever gotten on my phone.
1/29 - Received hardcopy letter in the mail.
2/4 - Received notification from NVC (dated 1/31) that my petition has reached them and will be sent to the consulate!!!! Almost over!

#3 indianheart

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:28 PM

i dont know that i can offer anything to help, but maybe this information will be of help to some one else. i was just married in india in june 2007. i did a lot of research before going to india and found that to circumvent the 30 days i had to convert to hinduism before marriage and have a certificate of conversion. arya samaj does conversion and hindu marriages and supply certificates needed for registration. with the help of many strangers in delhi and a few extra dollars to grease a few palms(is there such a thing as a stranger in india?), we were able to get our marriage officially registered and all legal paper work in hand all in about a weeks time.
good luck to you, i hope you are able to find what you need to get the process moving for you as it is far too long even when everything is right.
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06/11/2007 Married
07/23/2007 Sent I-130 (priority date)
08/02/2007 NOA-1
12/21/2007 Approval (checked online)Merry Christmas
12/26/2007 NAO-2 postmarked
NVC
01/07/2008 NVC received case number assigned

01/28/2008 NVC generates and mails DS-3032 and AOS bill
01/29/2008 (DS-3032 request emailed by husband and fee paid using James shortcuts)

02/01/2008 AOS fee bill received by NVC
02/05/2008 I-864 packet generated (called NVC for this information)
02/09/2008 mailed I-864 packet priority mail

02/11/2008 IV Fee bill generated and paid IV bill using experimental shortcut
02/19/2008 recieved IV fee bill
03/24/2008 DS-230 generated (NVC operator informed me)
04/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE/ interview date JUNE 6th
06/06/2008 AP

12/15/2008 case returned for further review
10/01/2009 USCIS REAFFIRMS APPROVAL CASE SENT TO DOS
11/09/2009 CASE BACK IN CHENNAI
12/10/2009 2ND INTERVIEW rescheduled twice, now Feb. 12th 2010
02/19/2010 Passport with IR-1 visa recieved

#4 Imua

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 09:50 AM

Interesting that India requires Hindu conversion to speed up the process. Are you submitting your conversion certificate along with your application? I went through an Arya Samaj conversion as well and was married legally in Nepal this last June - my FIL 'knew people' and like you say some palms were greased - our court marriage was handled very quickly and I had the marriage certificate in 3 weeks. The religious issue never came up but maybe my FIL already told them I was Hindu - I converted before I even met Govi. I am including the certificate to show that we are both the same religion and hoping it stengthens our case.

An aside - I find it interesting that the Indian government recognizes that non-Indians can convert to Hinduism yet there are still many temples which will not admit 'non-Hindus' which generally means anyone who does not look South Asian, even with an Arya Samaj certificate.

Edited by Pattu Rani, 06 December 2007 - 09:53 AM.

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#5 indianheart

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 08:43 PM

QUOTE (Pattu Rani @ Dec 6 2007, 06:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting that India requires Hindu conversion to speed up the process. Are you submitting your conversion certificate along with your application? I went through an Arya Samaj conversion as well and was married legally in Nepal this last June - my FIL 'knew people' and like you say some palms were greased - our court marriage was handled very quickly and I had the marriage certificate in 3 weeks. The religious issue never came up but maybe my FIL already told them I was Hindu - I converted before I even met Govi. I am including the certificate to show that we are both the same religion and hoping it stengthens our case.

An aside - I find it interesting that the Indian government recognizes that non-Indians can convert to Hinduism yet there are still many temples which will not admit 'non-Hindus' which generally means anyone who does not look South Asian, even with an Arya Samaj certificate.

I cant remember where but I had read that the conversion certificate needed to be sent with other evidence so yes I did submit it. I asked at a hindu temple here state side about conversion before going to india and they said they didnt do conversions, and I wanted a traditional hindu marriage, that is the reason for the arya samaj. In the last 2 years I have looked at so many sources preparing for my marriage and wanting to make sure that everything would go smoothly when the time came for our marriage and filing to bring my husband home, I am not able to remember everywhere I found information. I know that the hindu marriage act allows for a quicker marriage between indian and non-indian (or else 30 days waiting for civil marriage) and we all know how important saving time is at this point.
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06/11/2007 Married
07/23/2007 Sent I-130 (priority date)
08/02/2007 NOA-1
12/21/2007 Approval (checked online)Merry Christmas
12/26/2007 NAO-2 postmarked
NVC
01/07/2008 NVC received case number assigned

01/28/2008 NVC generates and mails DS-3032 and AOS bill
01/29/2008 (DS-3032 request emailed by husband and fee paid using James shortcuts)

02/01/2008 AOS fee bill received by NVC
02/05/2008 I-864 packet generated (called NVC for this information)
02/09/2008 mailed I-864 packet priority mail

02/11/2008 IV Fee bill generated and paid IV bill using experimental shortcut
02/19/2008 recieved IV fee bill
03/24/2008 DS-230 generated (NVC operator informed me)
04/21/2008 CASE COMPLETE/ interview date JUNE 6th
06/06/2008 AP

12/15/2008 case returned for further review
10/01/2009 USCIS REAFFIRMS APPROVAL CASE SENT TO DOS
11/09/2009 CASE BACK IN CHENNAI
12/10/2009 2ND INTERVIEW rescheduled twice, now Feb. 12th 2010
02/19/2010 Passport with IR-1 visa recieved

#6 laurarajesh

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 09:50 AM

QUOTE (waitingforwifey @ Dec 5 2007, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi All,

This is a question for people who know about the marriage registration system in India. I have a friend who is US citizen and he got married in New Delhi India. They had traditional hindu marriage however they could not register the marriage in India as the requirement for this process is that US citizen and his spouse would need to apply for marriage registration 30 days in advance. As the US citizen only had few days vacation and could not stay there for 30 or more days they were not able to register the marriage. After coming to US he filed the I-130 petition for his wife however marriage certificate is one of the requirements. He submitted all the evidence including marriage photos, sworn affidavits etc to prove the marriage. Then USCIS asked him to furnish the marriage certificate. The marriage registrar in India said that for them to register the marriage and issue a marriage certificate the US citizen spouse would have to physically come to India. Does anyone here know circumvent this situation withou having the US citizen to fly all the way to India to register the marriage?? Has anyone been in this situation before?? Please provide any ideas you might have.

Thanks


hello friend
there is no shortcut for this
i also faced same situation
but we all ready married in usa ( absence marry) and we filed our papers on according to usa marry date
we also called consulate
and they said usa marry ( absence marry) is valied and we no need to regester our marry in india.
but i request call u wife in india and regester your marry.
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#7 Jigi

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 12:21 PM

hi,

If i were in your place..... I would have given the Clerk of registrar's office and the signing officer some money and got my work done.... And INDIA... they would have done it happy for a few 100 $ ... which...... is far better than wasting 30 days and flight ticket money.... simple... pay the money.... get an immediate number by paying money... and you are out with the certificate.... cant help it... INDIA is in top 5 in corruption list.... We wont like this way... but have to do it... to save time, money , and energy.... and we are not going to get FAKE documents.... they would be all issued from the Authorised agecny....... So i think.... its fair...

WHat do you guys Say??????


Jigi
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Feb 1,2007 - I-130 Reached USCIS.
Feb 4,2007 - I-130 accepted > Get USCIS case Number NOA1.
May 8 ,2007- GET NVC Case Number > NOA2.
June 16 ,2007- Get Order from NVC to pay 70$.
July 2 ,2007- Get DS-3032 in India.
July 7,2007 - DS-3032 choice of address agent entered in NVC.
July 14 ,2007- Get I-864.
July 18 ,2007- I-864 Enters NVC.
July 29 ,2007- Get Order to Pay 380$ fee.
Aug 3 ,2007- 380$ Fee Reached St Louis.
Aug 25,2007 - NVC & St Louis People receive photocopy of my payment with USPS receipt.
After WAITING for 37 days.
Sept 10,2007 - 380$ fee encashed.
Sept 24,2007 - Receive DS-230 in Mail.
Sept 25,2007 - DS-230 despatched.
Sept 26,2007- DS-230 Delivered.
Oct 1,2007 - NVC has DS-230.
Oct 12, 2007 - DS-230 Reviewed. Case Complete
Oct 16, 2007 - Case at Embassy.
Oct 25, 2007- Interview Letter Despatched from Embassy.
Nov 3, 2007 - Recieved Interview Letter.
Dec 1, 2007 - Medical Exam .
I GOT IT
Jan 16 - I am in USA
April 15 2008 - Get my Drivers License.

I-751 Lifting Conditions at California Service Center

November 12, 2009 - I-751 Sent via USPS Express Mail
November 13, 2009 - Receipt of I-1751 Fee
November 20, 2009 - Arrested on Domestic Battery(Had argument with wife)
December 18, 2009 - Biometrics Completed at 9 am.
January 13, 2010 - Receive I-797E Notice for more evidence
February 16, 2010 - Mail reaches Californa Service Center( Next day of Preseidents Day)
February 19, 2010 - Card Production Ordered. Status now IR1

#8 immillpind

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 12:48 PM

Anything is possible in india as long as you know the right people. That can be a good thing or a bad thing.

but as people have replied, the US citizen has to be there. sig is required etc.

good luck
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#9 adam75

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 07:24 PM

hi , i want to write about my marriage regestration in indonesia wich is similar to india i think... although i have the same religion of my wife. the religious affairs overthere required a certificate showing my religion, i got the certificate here in the usa,translate it into indonesian and legalize it at the indnesian embassy in washingon,i also translated and legalized my birth certificat..i scan them along with my passport, and send everything by E-MAIL, she print them and took them to the religious affair, so when i moved from usa to indonesia ,i only need to go to the usa consulate to obtain a sworn affaidavit of no impedement to marry, we took that last form with us to the religious office and they schedule our marrige a week later..then got our marriage certificate at the same date... now after i came back to the usa, i filed a petition for k-3, but i dont know if i need to register my marriage at the usa, and if so where do i have to go..any idea please.
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12/28/2007 : married
I-130 :
01/20/2008 : I-130 sent
02/20/2008 : NOA1
05/06/2008 : touched
11/08/2008 :approved
I-129f:
02/26/2008 : I-129f sent
03/17/2008 : NOA1
04/02/2008 : touched
04/03/2008 : touched
11/08/2008 : approved

#10 bombay

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 07:45 PM

Wow i am surprised ur having a problem in getting things done in india im sure if you show them a helping hand with a couple of thousand rupees ur job will be taken care of in india.
Im sure its better giving those people some money rather then paying for a ticket to go to india and waste time.
best of luck.
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#11 crazysamurai

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE (waitingforwifey @ Dec 5 2007, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi All,

This is a question for people who know about the marriage registration system in India. I have a friend who is US citizen and he got married in New Delhi India. They had traditional hindu marriage however they could not register the marriage in India as the requirement for this process is that US citizen and his spouse would need to apply for marriage registration 30 days in advance. As the US citizen only had few days vacation and could not stay there for 30 or more days they were not able to register the marriage. After coming to US he filed the I-130 petition for his wife however marriage certificate is one of the requirements. He submitted all the evidence including marriage photos, sworn affidavits etc to prove the marriage. Then USCIS asked him to furnish the marriage certificate. The marriage registrar in India said that for them to register the marriage and issue a marriage certificate the US citizen spouse would have to physically come to India. Does anyone here know circumvent this situation withou having the US citizen to fly all the way to India to register the marriage?? Has anyone been in this situation before?? Please provide any ideas you might have.

Thanks



This is a bit surprising. I am Hindu and US citizen and I married a Hindu in India in a Hindu traditional ceremony. I didn't have to wait 30 days to get certificate of registration of marriage. The registrar didn't even bring up this 30 day time limit issue. Registerting for a traditional marriage to get the Certificate of Marriage and to marry in court infront of a witness or witnesses are two seperate procedures. Once the traditional ceremony is complete, you can provide priest's photo id and signature along with bride and groom's signatures on application to get certificate of marriage. that's how I did it and I didn't have to wait for 30 days. However, if you want to marry someone in court infront of a judge and in presence of witnesses, there is a seperate procedure which I am not aware of and I don't know how much you have to wait. Both paths (traditional marriage vs. marrying in court) lead you to getting Certificate of Marriage.
But, in your case, since your friend had traditional hindu marriage, I have no idea why he can't obtain marriage certificate right away? Maybe this is the law only for Delhi. I didn't have to wait for 30 days. I suspect if he goes to some other place that registers marriage, maybe he will get different answer. Or maybe he should have just spent some rupees to grease few palms and they would have issued a marriage certificate.
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2008-08-29: AOS Bill status "PAID" on NVC website
2008-08-29: AOS Bill and DS3032 hardcopy arrived in mail
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2008-09-23 : Mailed DS-230
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