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can anyone please help me with the following questions?

I got married with the USC wife and already have conditional green card. We are supposed to file for ROC in Nov 2018. we have a lot of document and pictures in common which proves bonafied marriage. (car insurance, lease , utilities,  dental insurance, bank statement, three credit cards of mine that she is authorized to use, sam's club membership, joint tax return, drivers license the same address, health insurance, etc).

few months ago she betrayed me and I caught her having nude chat with a guy, she confessed it , I talked to her family and finally they assured me that she will compensate and it was an accident. I forgave her and she promised to never repeat the mistake.

recently I caught her naked with a guy in my apartment , I was shocked ... . and called police , the guy ran away before police come over, police reported it. plus that I found a lot of sex chat with some random people in her phone and took video and shot from all of them.

the question is what should I do now? file for divorce? I should file for divorce or she? what are the next steps? ( I came to the US by F1 visa and still student).

I am shocked and completely confused, please tell me what should I do now?

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19 hours ago, newyork1234 said:

Hi 

can anyone please help me with the following questions?

I got married with the USC wife and already have conditional green card. We are supposed to file for ROC in Nov 2018. we have a lot of document and pictures in common which proves bonafied marriage. (car insurance, lease , utilities,  dental insurance, bank statement, three credit cards of mine that she is authorized to use, sam's club membership, joint tax return, drivers license the same address, health insurance, etc).

few months ago she betrayed me and I caught her having nude chat with a guy, she confessed it , I talked to her family and finally they assured me that she will compensate and it was an accident. I forgave her and she promised to never repeat the mistake.

recently I caught her naked with a guy in my apartment , I was shocked ... . and called police , the guy ran away before police come over, police reported it. plus that I found a lot of sex chat with some random people in her phone and took video and shot from all of them.

the question is what should I do now? file for divorce? I should file for divorce or she? what are the next steps? ( I came to the US by F1 visa and still student).

I am shocked and completely confused, please tell me what should I do now?

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Definitely think a divorce is in order. And whoever files first in the good old USA usually has the upper hand. I think you will have no problems ROC on your own, and it would be in your best interest to go that way, but give it a few hours, and you will have a bunch of advice, but I am pretty sure they are all going to lean towards divorce.

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Yeah, I would advise filing for divorce, and when you file for ROC in November, do so with the divorce waiver. If you don't have the divorce paperwork when sending in your ROC petition, no worries as long as you have it by the time USCIS sends you a RFE requesting that documentation.

 

 

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On 6/7/2018 at 4:05 PM, Loren Y said:

Definitely think a divorce is in order. And whoever files first in the good old USA usually has the upper hand. I think you will have no problems ROC on your own, and it would be in your best interest to go that way, but give it a few hours, and you will have a bunch of advice, but I am pretty sure they are all going to lean towards divorce.

thank you very much for the advice. I think in my state the uncontested divorce decree will be issued in less than three months (lets say in August I have the divorce decree) , then I do NOT have to wait until Novemver to file for ROC , right? in other word, I can file for ROC as soon as I get the divorce decree and do not have to wait till 90 days before expiration date of the GC. please clear me if I am wrong.

The other question is: does it matter if I file for divorce contested or uncontested? (cause now she want the divorce with agreement).

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On 6/7/2018 at 4:33 PM, usmsbow said:

Yeah, I would advise filing for divorce, and when you file for ROC in November, do so with the divorce waiver. If you don't have the divorce paperwork when sending in your ROC petition, no worries as long as you have it by the time USCIS sends you a RFE requesting that documentation.

 

 

Thank you my friend.

recently I found a lot of evidence ( text message, picture, etc.) in her phone and I got screenshot and video from them proving she has been betraying me. Does USCIS accept video if I attach them with the other documents?

I recorded her voice which she confessed she has been betraying me, plus she curing men with the bad words. does USCIS accept voice record attached with the documents? 

if not, so how can I show the officers those videos and recorded voice files?

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20 minutes ago, newyork1234 said:

thank you very much for the advice. I think in my state the uncontested divorce decree will be issued in less than three months (lets say in August I have the divorce decree) , then I do NOT have to wait until Novemver to file for ROC , right? in other word, I can file for ROC as soon as I get the divorce decree and do not have to wait till 90 days before expiration date of the GC. please clear me if I am wrong.

The other question is: does it matter if I file for divorce contested or uncontested? (cause now she want the divorce with agreement).

Just because you get divorced, I don't think it would change the time you file to remove conditions. That is still 90 days before your green card expires. I don't believe that would work, because let's say you get married, then a month later get divorced, you still have to wait for the correct "window" to apply to remove conditions.

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1 minute ago, Loren Y said:

Just because you get divorced, I don't think it would change the time you file to remove conditions. That is still 90 days before your green card expires. I don't believe that would work, because let's say you get married, then a month later get divorced, you still have to wait for the correct "window" to apply to remove conditions.

I heard that from several lawyers in youtube and some other websites. But I have not seen It in USCIS website. 

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7 minutes ago, newyork1234 said:

I heard that from several lawyers in youtube and some other websites. But I have not seen It in USCIS website. 

Yes, I am in no way an expert, I'm sure one of the senior members on here has dealt with this question before. Unless I saw that you could file early on the USCIS site, or in their instructions somewhere, I would stick to the original plan for ROC.

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1 hour ago, newyork1234 said:

 in other word, I can file for ROC as soon as I get the divorce decree and do not have to wait till 90 days before expiration date of the GC. please clear me if I am wrong.

 

This is correct.

A divorce waiver I-751 can be filed at any time after gaining permanent residence, right up until a final order of removal by am immigration judge in court.

It even states this on the instructions.

Joint filings must be in the 90 day period but this does not apply to waiver filings.

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

 I-751 Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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1 hour ago, mindthegap said:

 

This is correct.

A divorce waiver I-751 can be filed at any time after gaining permanent residence, right up until a final order of removal by am immigration judge in court.

It even states this on the instructions.

Joint filings must be in the 90 day period but this does not apply to waiver filings.

Thank you so much for clarification. 

Is there any difference in time processing of the cases between "ROC waiver" and "regular ROC"?

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1 hour ago, Loren Y said:

Yes, I am in no way an expert, I'm sure one of the senior members on here has dealt with this question before. Unless I saw that you could file early on the USCIS site, or in their instructions somewhere, I would stick to the original plan for ROC.

Thank you. I know a lot of divorce happens before ROC, why people are not coming to VJ to share their experience. I saw some few posts. but the page is already closed and not active anymore.

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43 minutes ago, newyork1234 said:

Thank you so much for clarification. 

Is there any difference in time processing of the cases between "ROC waiver" and "regular ROC"?

Waiver more likely to get an interview which may possibly delay it, but not guaranteed - can still be approved without interview. 

Both are adjudicated on the evidence provided - you won’t denied purely on the basis of being divorced.

 

Processing times are ridiculous for any I-751 right now anyway, so filing early may well get you approved faster than you would if jointly.

 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

 I-751 Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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1 hour ago, mindthegap said:

Waiver more likely to get an interview which may possibly delay it, but not guaranteed - can still be approved without interview. 

Both are adjudicated on the evidence provided - you won’t denied purely on the basis of being divorced.

 

Processing times are ridiculous for any I-751 right now anyway, so filing early may well get you approved faster than you would if jointly.

 

you are right 

sound like taking 12 to 15 months of processing time of I751 for Vermont Center 

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