NEED YOUR ADVISE NOT TO WASTE MY CASH ON MEDICAL AND VISA FEES

[watuwa 1]

Hello Brothers and Sister,greeting to u in the mighty name of Christ.Am DV selettee 2018, under case 2018AF23XXX. by the time i entered the draw of the lottery, my wife was not around my country and had a pending contract in the UAE which had taken 1yr and 2 months. it was my first time to enter this draw but by God luck me and our 8yr old son were selected. since it was my first time to i read all instructions very well not to make any mistake. i did not put my wife initially but before she went for work abroad we were staying together and still kept communication. The reason i did not put my wife is that i needed a picture of her but one of the laws about american size say the picture should be atleast 6months back..but remember i had taken a year without seeing her. i tried so much to enter her name but the draw could not proceed without a missing picture.. what i did was to upload my picture and our son. where she was working i would have atleast requested a picture on whatsapp to develop it from a professional studio meeting the requirement of american size but at my wife place of work in UAE, they never accepted them smart phones, on her start of contract ,her smart phone was confiscated and given an ordinary phone which is not smart. And all fellow works were in the same situation. we were only communicating on voice calls for a complete yr until her contract expired and was released back. when she came back in August last yr, we arranged a civil marriage and got married in september last yr. we were given out marriage certificate and added her to my case.. she is the mother of my child with whom we won the lottery...

QNS..1..People are scaring me that since i did not put her initially,it might lead to visa refusal but there is a bond btn us and is the child i won the lottery with.. do u think i should not waste my money because we are three and every cost counts on me?

 

2...i have got my high school diploma certificate ( O level and A levels ).. depending on my post, please advise me on what am supposed to do cause depending on my case number i think am about to be scheduled? .. i was willing to add her initially but she needed to be around to take the picture of american size but was not around and i only put our 8 yr old son.. 

3.. do u think this child can act as a bond to let us go through?

4..can it be possible on my medical to pay extra and do DNA tests and we go with them to prove this child is biologically btn us and take them to consulate for proof?

 

thanks so much brothers and sisters on this forum

your advise is my last resort..

God bless u so much  

    

[Roel 7,191]

It definitely might be an issue that you "forgot" to mention that you were married at first and then suddenly added your wife. 

 

Also no. The fact that you have a child doesn't mean a thing and will not help with anything. The child only means that you had sex. Doesn't proof any bonds. 

[Ben&Zian 4,397]

You said you applied while your "wife" was out of country working... but then when she came back you "arranged a civil marriage and got married in september last yr"..... so when you applied you weren't married to her but now you are? Don't know if you can just magically add someone.

 

And like Roel said, a child, only means two people had sex. Doesn't constitute an actual "bond" or anything really.

Edited March 14, 2018 by Ben&Zian

[geowrian 22,335]

I'm a bit confused on the timeline...

When you filled out the DV application form, were you married at that time? Did you list your spouse? If not, you've committed a misrepresentation and the DV will likely be refused.

 

The bond with your child won't change anything. If you filled out the application as single when you were in fact married, it's pointless trying to continue the process IMO.

If you were not legally married at the time but got married after filing the form, then I think you should be fine. The application was valid at the time it was submitted.

 

[watuwa 1]

before my wife went for work we were staying together but not officially married...does that mean i was single/ married because i got confused? remember when filling lottery paper and say married it could not proceed before u upload your spouse picture. And my wife was not around...i would have said married but it always demanded for a spouse picture for atleast taken six months back.. and my wife had been out of the country for ayr..at her place of work did not allow them smart phones and those who had smart phones were replaced with ordinary phones..so we kept on voice calls all the time for a full yr until she came back...let me hope am understood sir

[kzielu 1,144]

If you were married at the time you submitted application, you will be wasting money. You will be denied.

 

If you got married after submitting it, no problem - add her to DS-260 (?) and go with her to the interview.

 

[geowrian 22,335]

I don't know what qualifies as being married in your country.

If the only reason you filed as not married is due to the photo issue, then I would assume you've got a problem.

[Crazy Cat 39,190]

55 minutes ago, watuwa said:

Hello Brothers and Sister,greeting to u in the mighty name of Christ.Am DV selettee 2018, under case 2018AF23XXX. by the time i entered the draw of the lottery, my wife was not around my country and had a pending contract in the UAE which had taken 1yr and 2 months. it was my first time to enter this draw but by God luck me and our 8yr old son were selected. since it was my first time to i read all instructions very well not to make any mistake. i did not put my wife initially but before she went for work abroad we were staying together and still kept communication. The reason i did not put my wife is that i needed a picture of her but one of the laws about american size say the picture should be atleast 6months back..but remember i had taken a year without seeing her. i tried so much to enter her name but the draw could not proceed without a missing picture.. what i did was to upload my picture and our son. where she was working i would have atleast requested a picture on whatsapp to develop it from a professional studio meeting the requirement of american size but at my wife place of work in UAE, they never accepted them smart phones, on her start of contract ,her smart phone was confiscated and given an ordinary phone which is not smart. And all fellow works were in the same situation. we were only communicating on voice calls for a complete yr until her contract expired and was released back. when she came back in August last yr, we arranged a civil marriage and got married in september last yr. we were given out marriage certificate and added her to my case.. she is the mother of my child with whom we won the lottery...

QNS..1..People are scaring me that since i did not put her initially,it might lead to visa refusal but there is a bond btn us and is the child i won the lottery with.. do u think i should not waste my money because we are three and every cost counts on me?

 

2...i have got my high school diploma certificate ( O level and A levels ).. depending on my post, please advise me on what am supposed to do cause depending on my case number i think am about to be scheduled? .. i was willing to add her initially but she needed to be around to take the picture of american size but was not around and i only put our 8 yr old son.. 

3.. do u think this child can act as a bond to let us go through?

4..can it be possible on my medical to pay extra and do DNA tests and we go with them to prove this child is biologically btn us and take them to consulate for proof?

 

thanks so much brothers and sisters on this forum

your advise is my last resort..

God bless u so much  

    

Sorry, but this sounds like a lot of double talk to avoid a misrep accusation......If you weren't married, why were you trying to put her on the application in the first place before you applied?  It sounds like you arranged a civil marriage in an attempt to cover the fact that were actually married, but failed to indicate that on your application.

[SusieQQQ 11,584]

Dude, I haven't read beyond the first few lines of your post and none of the responses so far, but let me make it very clear that YOU ARE DISQUALIFIED. The rules are very clear about this and so are the instructions for selectees.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/diversity-visa-program-entry/diversity-visa-if-you-are-selected/diversity-visa-submit-your-iv-and-alien-registration-application.html

Important note: If you had a spouse or children prior to submitting your original entry, but you did not include them on your original entry form, then your case will be disqualified at the time of your visa interview. Neither you nor any of your family members will receive visas.

 

This is automatic disqualification. There is no leeway. Every single person I've ever seen on a forum who has tried to get a visa without having a declared a family member, even a stepchild living in a different country, has been disqualified.  Don't waste your money on medical and interview fees. 

[TNJ17 1,329]

You’re gonna be disqualified for sure. I think this also qualifies as a misrepresentation and that comes with a lifetime ban from the United States. You should NEVER lie to immigration because there are consequences. Your dancing around whether you were married or not seems to me that you’re just trying to escape these consequences. You shouldn’t have lied. 

[Auds 223]

I won't change the course of someone's life by my opinion.

 

Here's facts.  If you are calling her your wife now because you are married its okay.

 

So if you were only living in together all the years before and only after winning the DV got officially married you will be okay.

 

Don't confuse matters be clear. 

[EmilyW 1,222]

If you were married at the time you submitted your lottery entry, and you didn't name her as your wife, you WILL be disqualified.  

 

 

There is no point in going any further.  The rules of the Diversity Lottery are very clear on this.

 

[Going through 5,668]

Easiest way to figure this out, OP, if it will cause you any issues.....

 

What date did you get married?

What date did you submit the application for the DV?

[DrEllaNJ 288]

20 hours ago, watuwa said:

before my wife went for work we were staying together but not officially married...does that mean i was single/ married because i got confused? remember when filling lottery paper and say married it could not proceed before u upload your spouse picture. And my wife was not around...i would have said married but it always demanded for a spouse picture for atleast taken six months back.. and my wife had been out of the country for ayr..at her place of work did not allow them smart phones and those who had smart phones were replaced with ordinary phones..so we kept on voice calls all the time for a full yr until she came back...let me hope am understood sir

OK from this I understand that the woman you called your wife, and with whom you had a child, was not actually your wife prior to submitting your DV application. She was your fiancee, the mother of your child, your girlfriend etc. Since you were not legally married, you were actually correct in filing the DV application as single.

if this is the case, and you weren't previously legally married, you filed the form correctly. Now that you are legally married,  you can add her to your application. Here are some resources:

http://usa-green-card.com/blog/2017/02/18/getting-married-during-your-dv-lottery-application-process-here-is-what-you-need-to-know/

http://britsimonsays.com/marital-status-getting-married-dv-lottery-process/

Edited March 15, 2018 by DrEllaNJ

[Crazy Cat 39,190]

26 minutes ago, DrEllaNJ said:

OK from this I understand that the woman you called your wife, and with whom you had a child, was not actually your wife prior to submitting your DV application. She was your fiancee, the mother of your child, your girlfriend etc. Since you were not legally married, you were actually correct in filing the DV application as single.

if this is the case, and you weren't previously legally married, you filed the form correctly. Now that you are legally married,  you can add her to your application. Here are some resources:

http://usa-green-card.com/blog/2017/02/18/getting-married-during-your-dv-lottery-application-process-here-is-what-you-need-to-know/

http://britsimonsays.com/marital-status-getting-married-dv-lottery-process/

If he was not legally married, then why say " The reason i did not put my wife is that i needed a picture of her but one of the laws about american size say the picture should be atleast 6months back..but remember i had taken a year without seeing her. i tried so much to enter her name but the draw could not proceed without a missing picture.. " ?

That sounds very much like he thought they WERE married, yet he declared himself single because he could not submit a "married" application without her picture.

I am not the interviewing officer, nor am I judging.  I am just stating some obvious observations which could indicate he is disqualified based on perceived misrepresentation...