Sessions rescinds DACA

[Jacque67 7,328]

no questions, no details. Will have to rely on "fake news" for those! Cowardly Donnie. Sessions a creep as Donnie beat up on him, yet he delivers the message.

[Dashinka 23,241]

Is DACA even constitutional?  Aren't there multiple lawsuits arguing just that point.  In my opinion, if Congress wants DACA, pass a bill as the constitution stipulates.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

21 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

no questions, no details. Will have to rely on "fake news" for those! Cowardly Donnie. Sessions a creep as Donnie beat up on him, yet he delivers the message.

As I said with numerous people on here and around my life right now, I think this is just a move on a chess board. Trump is trying to force Congress to do something in regards to immigration instead of doing nothing. Trump has already put a immigration plan on the table and no one wanted to hear it, so it forced his hand to do this and rescind DACA. So now the ball is in Congress's court so to speak and they have to pass an immigration bill, wither that is the one Trump wants who knows. But what could be done is that those people covered by DACA will be amnestied and that be written in the immigration bill that Trump rolled out. 

[Jacque67 7,328]

15 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

As I said with numerous people on here and around my life right now, I think this is just a move on a chess board. Trump is trying to force Congress to do something in regards to immigration instead of doing nothing. Trump has already put a immigration plan on the table and no one wanted to hear it, so it forced his hand to do this and rescind DACA. So now the ball is in Congress's court so to speak and they have to pass an immigration bill, wither that is the one Trump wants who knows. But what could be done is that those people covered by DACA will be amnestied and that be written in the immigration bill that Trump rolled out. 

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/05/bannon-daca-trump-congress-242312

 

checkers in donnie's case. Can't get Mexico to pay for the wall. Total sociopathic behaviour on his part. Hiding behind Sessions.SAD.

[TBoneTX 43,058]

This is brilliant.  It fulfills the President's campaign promise, and it also opens the door for Congress to devise -- as part of its lawful authority to determine immigration policy -- a plan for amnesty or other means of considering those who fell under DACA.

[JimandChristy 1,689]

Congress needs to do its job. However as much as it might be a clever move on Trump's part to get Congress to act he could've still not rescinded the law and not put a deadline on Congress.

 

Till the end of the year Congress still has to:

1. Approve Harvey funding

2. Raise the Debt Ceiling

3. Pass Tax Reform

4. Approve a spending bill to avoid Shutdown

5. Renew flood insurance program

6. Renew CHIP

7. Repeal and Replace Obamacare - some Republicans still want to do it.

 

Think DACA is going to get any time during the next six months? I doubt it.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

2 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

This is brilliant.  It fulfills the President's campaign promise, and it also opens the door for Congress to devise -- as part of its lawful authority to determine immigration policy -- a plan for amnesty or other means of considering those who fell under DACA.

Exactly what I have been saying all along. 

7 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/05/bannon-daca-trump-congress-242312

 

checkers in donnie's case. Can't get Mexico to pay for the wall. Total sociopathic behaviour on his part. Hiding behind Sessions.SAD.

Try to think outside the box and don't stick to your idelogical fallacies. 

[Jacque67 7,328]

6 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Exactly what I have been saying all along. 

Try to think outside the box and don't stick to your idelogical fallacies. 

love projection.

[Dashinka 23,241]

11 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Congress needs to do its job. However as much as it might be a clever move on Trump's part to get Congress to act he could've still not rescinded the law and not put a deadline on Congress.

 

Till the end of the year Congress still has to:

1. Approve Harvey funding

2. Raise the Debt Ceiling

3. Pass Tax Reform

4. Approve a spending bill to avoid Shutdown

5. Renew flood insurance program

6. Renew CHIP

7. Repeal and Replace Obamacare - some Republicans still want to do it.

 

Think DACA is going to get any time during the next six months? I doubt it.

Just one thing, DACA is not a law, it was an EO and lost time I checked, the constitution does not authorize the president or the courts alone to create laws.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Donnie is a grifter and coward.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

38 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

This is brilliant.  It fulfills the President's campaign promise, and it also opens the door for Congress to devise -- as part of its lawful authority to determine immigration policy -- a plan for amnesty or other means of considering those who fell under DACA.

Our President is a coward and a wuss.   If he wants to kill DACA be a man and kill DACA.  

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

I'm going to voice an unpopular opinion from the MDL, and say that the administration is neatly hewing a path between the poles here. On the one hand, those who were promised Trump would do "something" are placated (somewhat) and on the other hand, business interests are placated by putting off actual termination for six months so that Congress can do "something" to fix it. I think that those in the latter are more likely to prevail here, because big business wants a fix, not abolition, and their voices are more powerful than those who want the DACA recipients kicked out. 

 

Follow the money, as always.

[Dashinka 23,241]

2 minutes ago, elmcitymaven said:

I'm going to voice an unpopular opinion from the MDL, and say that the administration is neatly hewing a path between the poles here. On the one hand, those who were promised Trump would do "something" are placated (somewhat) and on the other hand, business interests are placated by putting off actual termination for six months so that Congress can do "something" to fix it. I think that those in the latter are more likely to prevail here, because big business wants a fix, not abolition, and their voices are more powerful than those who want the DACA recipients kicked out. 

 

Follow the money, as always.

Personally I don't really care if DACA stays or goes in the long run.  My only point is that it is the purpose of Congress to write and pass the bill to send to the president.  We need to get back to doing things in Washington properly according to the Constitution.  You might be right about big business pushing congress hard for a fix, but based on what was coming out from both sides of the aisles in the House and Senate I am not sure they are too happy with Trump forcing them to accomplish something.  The Reps and Senators know that immigration is a hot button issue and one of the biggest reasons Trump won in November and they would rather not alienate their voters because even though businesses provide re-election funds, they do not vote.

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

Voters are a dime a dozen, and the true believers can always be motivated to vote on either side. Given that the way many districts have been redrawn over the past 15 or so years, it can be assumed with a good degree of certainty that a person with a "D" or an "R" next to their name will be reelected, whether or not promises about immigration are kept. There's a fix all right, and it's in, for big business. (I'm feeling awfully cynical this morning.) 

 

I agree with you that this needs to be done the right way, a way that comports with the Constitution. What we have now isn't working, for anyone.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

35 minutes ago, elmcitymaven said:

I'm going to voice an unpopular opinion from the MDL, and say that the administration is neatly hewing a path between the poles here. On the one hand, those who were promised Trump would do "something" are placated (somewhat) and on the other hand, business interests are placated by putting off actual termination for six months so that Congress can do "something" to fix it. I think that those in the latter are more likely to prevail here, because big business wants a fix, not abolition, and their voices are more powerful than those who want the DACA recipients kicked out. 

 

Follow the money, as always.

The path may be politically well chosen between the poles but who picked the poles we slip between?  Nothing prevented Congress from fixing this problem before today, do you think this crisis is going to change how effective those folks are at their job?  

 This choice lacks any moral courage to do the right thing for the 800,000 youngsters who have their life put on hold after the Federal government asked them to come forward and enroll.