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Foreign citizen who marries a U.S. citizen outside the U.S. application for K-3 visa in country of marriage?

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According to https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/family/spouse-citizen.html 

 

"It should be noted that under U.S. immigration law, a foreign citizen who marries a U.S. citizen outside the U.S. must apply for the K-3 visa in the country where the marriage took place."

 

Has anyone else gone thru this and does anyone have perspective on processing time frames?

 

 

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K-3 is obsolete anyway. The USC/LPR should file an I-130 for the foreign spouse so they can obtain a CR-1. ETA: 12-14 months (assuming the petitioner is a USC since you mentioned K-3).

 

http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

Note that the latest I-130 uses an I-130A instead of the G-325A.

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Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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4 minutes ago, Sharif Shakhshir said:

Why do you say that K-3 is obsolete?  It is all over USCIS and State Dept websites...

https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/family/spouse-citizen.html#5

 

It's still on the books and can be issued, but the overwhelming majority of the I-129Fs are either rejected or approved then administratively closed once they reach NVC. We're talking like ~180 issued all last fiscal year, versus hundreds of thousands of CR/IR based visas. K-3 was common back when a CR-1 was taking 2-3 years to process...now that they're taking "only" a year or so, they are no longer needed.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Yeah. File for CR-1, why do K-3 as a non-immigrant when you can file as an immigrant with a green card. 
Processing time is not too bad right now and less headache in the long run.

04/21/2016 : Married

11/17/2016 : I-130 sent ( NSO marriage certificate took forever) 

11/23/2016 : I-130 case accepted notified by email NOA1

01/27/2017 : USCIS APPROVED NOA2

02/04/2017 : NOA2 hardcopy received in mail

02/28/2017 : Case received by NVC

03/02/2017 : Agent assigned 

03/07/2017 : Case number assigned with invoice

03/28/2017 : Fees paid (IV and AOS)
04/05/2017 : DS260 online form completed
04/09/2017 : IV and AOS package sent to NVC
04/12/2017 : Requested for NVC expedite
04/17/2017:  NVC expedite approved 

04/18/2017:  In Transit 

04/20/2017: Received in Manila (may schedule for interview)
05/11/2017: SLEC -CLEARED 
05/25/2017: Interview @ Manila Embassy - APPROVED

05/30/2017: VISA on hand plus packet

06/08/2017: POE: California  

06/14/2017: Social Security card received through DS260 filing

06/24/2017: Green card received 

 

CRBA 

04/10/2017: CRBA sent to Embassy via FedEx 

04/19/2017: Appointment scheduled 

05/04/2017: Interviewed and approved 

05/17/2017: CRBA certificate on hand

05/26/2017: U.S Passport on hand

06/02/2017: Paid for ECC and Extension fees

06/08/2017: POE

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A little more detail...

 

My wife entered US last Nov 2016 on B1/B2 visitor visa.  At the time, we had no plans on relocating to the US but we had a change of heart while she was here and decided to marry while she was with me in US.  She left mid Dec 2016 and I filed I-130 in late Jan 2017.  

 

For family, cultural and religious reasons, I came to Jordan in April 2017 and we also did marriage there.

 

We are awaiting USCIS approval but now we are concerned that the I-130 > NVC process will result in a CR-1 visa after the time that her 2 sons need to be in the US in order to start school in mid August 2017 so this is why I am exploring all options for her to enter the US this summer.

 

When I read on the State Department website that "It should be noted that under U.S. immigration law, a foreign citizen who marries a U.S. citizen outside the U.S. must apply for the K-3 visa in the country where the marriage took place." from https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/family/spouse-citizen.html#5, it appeared that she MUST apply for K-3 in Jordan and I am also hoping this process would expedite her entry into the US.

 

Thanks for your time and guidance!

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18 minutes ago, Sharif Shakhshir said:

thank you for this...

do you have a reference or a link that talks about this concurrent process?

Here's the K-3 workflow: http://www.visajourney.com/content/k3flow

Guide: http://www.visajourney.com/content/k3guide

Just note that the timelines there are considerably outdated, and the I-130 is likely to be approved before the I-129F gets to NVC (thereby having the I-129F closed). When that happens, the I-130 remains open and the beneficiary can apply for the CR-1/IR-1 visa.

 

From I-130 filing to CR-1 visa in hand is about 12-14 months.

Guide: http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide1

Note that the latest I-130 uses the I-130A instead of the G-325A (and the latest I-129F no longer uses the G-325A, too).

 

1 minute ago, Sharif Shakhshir said:

My wife entered US last Nov 2016 on B1/B2 visitor visa.  At the time, we had no plans on relocating to the US but we had a change of heart while she was here and decided to marry while she was with me in US.  She left mid Dec 2016 and I filed I-130 in late Jan 2017.  

Did you file the I-129F already? If not, your I-130 is likely to be approved long before an I-129F now. Even if so, the I-130 is still likely to be approved before the I-129F.

 

1 minute ago, Sharif Shakhshir said:

For family, cultural and religious reasons, I came to Jordan in April 2017 and we also did marriage there.

Marriage meaning a renewal of vows or religious ceremony, I hope. You cannot get legally married if you are already married (even to the same partner).

 

1 minute ago, Sharif Shakhshir said:

We are awaiting USCIS approval but now we are concerned that the I-130 > NVC process will result in a CR-1 visa after the time that her 2 sons need to be in the US in order to start school in mid August 2017 so this is why I am exploring all options for her to enter the US this summer.

That's correct...you will most likely end up with a CR-1 visa. Did you file I-130s for your 2 stepsons?

 

1 minute ago, Sharif Shakhshir said:

When I read on the State Department website that "It should be noted that under U.S. immigration law, a foreign citizen who marries a U.S. citizen outside the U.S. must apply for the K-3 visa in the country where the marriage took place." from https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/immigrate/family/spouse-citizen.html#5, it appeared that she MUST apply for K-3 in Jordan and I am also hoping this process would expedite her entry into the US.

You married her within the US, though.

"If the marriage took place in the United States, the NVC will send the petition to the U.S. Embassy or Consulate that issues visas in the foreign-citizen spouse’s country of nationality."

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Okay... thanks again for the clarification.  If, as you say, that the process is dictate by the marriage that took place in the US, it looks like I must await the pending I-130 process.  The marriage in Jordan was fully legal and registered so I now I must hope that I didn't make a mistake by doing the marriage twice!

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What marriage certificate did you send with I-130? Hopefully it was the U.S. one. 

 

Highly unlikely kids kids will start school this summer, most likely next summer. 

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