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Noom came to the US on a K-1 visa in October; we married in November and have filed his AOS/AP/EAD applications. Noom decided to change his family name to mine, and the applications reflect that. He has changed his family name on his social security card. 

 

Noom also wants to change his family name on his Thai passport and his Thai ID card. Does anyone know how we go about doing that? Can he do that through the Thai Embassy in the US or does he need to do all of that back in Thailand when we visit? And is a marriage outside Thailand a legitimate reason to change one's family name in Thailand? 

 

Not really sure how to proceed here. Thanks for any advice! 

 

~ David & Noom

 

 


K-1 Visa Timeline

2016.04.18 -- I-129F Received by USCIS

2016.04.20 -- I-129F NOA1

2016.06.29 -- NOA

2016.08.15 -- Bangkok Embassy received our case from NVC

2016.08.23 -- Packet 3 sent to Embassy in Bangkok

2016.08.26 -- Packet 4 email received from Embassy

2016.09.05 -- Medical exam @ 10:30 AM @ BNH

2016.09.07 -- Interview @ 7:30 AM...Visa approved

2016.09.09 -- Visa Received

2016.10.02 -- Entered USA (POE LAX)

2016.11.18...Our Wedding Day 

AOS Timeline

2016.12.30 -- AOS, EAD, and AP applications delivered to Chicago PO

2017.01.21 -- NOA1's received via USPS for I-485 (AOS),  I-131 (AP), and I-765 (EAD)

2017.02.24 -- Biometrics Appointment

2017.04.20 -- AOS & EAD approved; NOA2's received via USPS on 2017.04.23

2017.04.29 -- EAD & AP combo card received

2017.06.06 -- AOS approved!

2017.06.10 -- Green Card received

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I would think you could do it through your local Thailand Embassy. Same as if he were renewing his passport but just asking for official name change. Would definately give them a call to inquire.


08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

07/08/2016 : NOA 1 Received

08/25/2016 : NOA 2 Received (48 days)

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/18/2016 : Visa in hand

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

03/06/2017 - NOA1's received via text

03/31/2017 - Biometrics appointment Completed

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

 

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Thailand doesn't recognize same sex marriage so I would think that changing the name on his Thai IDs might be problematic.


ROC Timeline

Service Center: Vermont

90 Day Window Opened....08/08/17

I-751 Packet Sent..............08/14/17

NO1 Dated.........................

NO1 Received....................

Check Cashed....................

Biometrics Received..........

Biometrics Appointment.....

Approved...........................

 

IR-1/CR-1 Visa

I-130 NOA1: 22 Dec 2014
I-130 NOA2: 25 Jan 2015
NVC Received: 06 Feb 2015
Pay AOS Bill: 07 Mar 2015
Pay IV Bill : 20 Mar 2015
Send IV/AOS Package: 23 Mar 2015
Submit DS-261: 26 Mar 2015
Case Completed at NVC: 24 Apr 2015
Interview Date: 22 Sep 2015
Visa Approved: 22 Sep 2015
Visa Received: 03 Oct 2015 

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*** Country-specific thread is moved from the K-1 Process forum to the Thailand regional subforum. ***


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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On 1/9/2017 at 9:16 AM, cyclone27 said:

Thailand doesn't recognize same sex marriage so I would think that changing the name on his Thai IDs might be problematic.

This is probably true.  And, I don't know if you plan on returning to Thailand or if Noom has property but those are considerations. My wife left her maiden name on her Thai passport, ID and drivers license for simplicity purposes and has her married name on her U.S. Passport and drivers license. Her name is on the blue book for our house. We are starting another project in March of which I'll be on title but as a minority stakeholder (49%). From what I've read, you have to an official translation done of all you marriage documents (like at one of the places across the street from the Embassy). You then have to take those to Noom's amphur to have it entered in the registry. If you're just doing a simple name change and not registering your marriage it is also my understanding that would have to be done through Noom's amphur as well but I could be wrong and I guess it could be done stateside. Thai Embassy would be your next stop.

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On 1/11/2017 at 7:40 PM, khwaidee1 said:

This is probably true.  And, I don't know if you plan on returning to Thailand or if Noom has property but those are considerations. My wife left her maiden name on her Thai passport, ID and drivers license for simplicity purposes and has her married name on her U.S. Passport and drivers license. Her name is on the blue book for our house. We are starting another project in March of which I'll be on title but as a minority stakeholder (49%). From what I've read, you have to an official translation done of all you marriage documents (like at one of the places across the street from the Embassy). You then have to take those to Noom's amphur to have it entered in the registry. If you're just doing a simple name change and not registering your marriage it is also my understanding that would have to be done through Noom's amphur as well but I could be wrong and I guess it could be done stateside. Thai Embassy would be your next stop.

Thanks so much for your response. A little research has revealed that changing family names in Thailand (for reasons other than marriage) is a fairly common practice and a very straight forward process requiring a visit to the amphur and some paperwork. So Noom can change his name legally, if he chooses, without having to use marriage as a justification. 

 

I think it would be so much simpler to keep Thai documents as they are ... but he seems determined to change his name here and there! 


K-1 Visa Timeline

2016.04.18 -- I-129F Received by USCIS

2016.04.20 -- I-129F NOA1

2016.06.29 -- NOA

2016.08.15 -- Bangkok Embassy received our case from NVC

2016.08.23 -- Packet 3 sent to Embassy in Bangkok

2016.08.26 -- Packet 4 email received from Embassy

2016.09.05 -- Medical exam @ 10:30 AM @ BNH

2016.09.07 -- Interview @ 7:30 AM...Visa approved

2016.09.09 -- Visa Received

2016.10.02 -- Entered USA (POE LAX)

2016.11.18...Our Wedding Day 

AOS Timeline

2016.12.30 -- AOS, EAD, and AP applications delivered to Chicago PO

2017.01.21 -- NOA1's received via USPS for I-485 (AOS),  I-131 (AP), and I-765 (EAD)

2017.02.24 -- Biometrics Appointment

2017.04.20 -- AOS & EAD approved; NOA2's received via USPS on 2017.04.23

2017.04.29 -- EAD & AP combo card received

2017.06.06 -- AOS approved!

2017.06.10 -- Green Card received

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Yep, Thais change names pretty regularly and i understand it is easy to do.   However, many Thais don't change their names on their Thai passport.   We live in an area with a bunch of Thais and i think they all left their Thai passport the same.  I believe it has something to do with owning property in Thailand and less scrutiny if the family name is thai.   Not sure whether it is true or not (although it is amazing how often Thai group think is right), however, if you guys are thinking about buying property in Thai this might be of interest.  

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