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I met my fiancé in  2006 when I visited my Uncle in her hometown. We are Jehovah's Witnesses, so we went to the same Kingdom Hall for worship. We were just mutual friends at the time. We lost contact  in late  2008 when  when I travel to the state.  With some effort we got contact again in January 2015 and we started dating. Because we knew ourselves as friends back in 2010, it was so easy to blend and as Witnesses we had the same values, so I proposed to her in August 2015 when I visited Ghana.

 My fiancé had the interview on on January 3rd, and the old White man thinks our case doesn't make sense. This is what happened. I came to Ghana myself to support my fiance during the final part of the process because I knew how important it was for us to be together. I gave her passport to show as a proof that am around, as the new rules in Ghana did not permit petitioners to be part of the interview. She answered every question, but when the CO got to the sheet describing how we met, he stopped to ask why after losing contact for 5 years, when we got back together again and then started dating I came back to Ghana to propose to her? She answered we mutual friends already before losing contact, so when we came back as friends again and then started dating, it was so easy for me to propose marriqge and also as Witnesses we shared the same values. He then said it doesn't make sense. Another question was why we allowed some to take pictures of us along the beach when I visited? She answered he is a friend who was with us because we needed a chaperone. That too didn't make sense in his ears. Our case was then DENIED. I have already contacted my senator's office and the reply they can't ask for second interview, but they will communicate with the embassy to know the reasons for denial and if it could be possible to schedule a second interview which I can be part of. For now its a sad moment, but am still hopeful  for our future because am  planning to extend( really costly on my part- work) my stay in Ghana and get married if its the last option before flying back to US. Thanks friends for your wonderful support during this process.

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tough embassy barely any k1s get approved im even seeing crls get denied there 


 

AOS

05/04/17 - Biometric appointment

05/17/17 - Case ready to be scheduled for interview

07/20/17 - EAD/AP Approved

07/25/17 - GC interview scheduled

07/27/17 - EAD/AP in hand

08/14/17 - GC interview , approved =)

08/18/17 - GC approval notice letter

08/21/17 - GC in hand

 

 

ROC

05/16/19 - Earliest  to apply 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, McBee said:

I met my fiancé in  2006 when I visited my Uncle in her hometown. We are Jehovah's Witnesses, so we went to the same Kingdom Hall for worship.

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We were just mutual friends at the time. We lost contact  in late  2008 when  when I travel to the state.  With some effort we got contact again in January 2015 and we started dating. Because we knew ourselves as friends back in 2010, it was so easy to blend

and as Witnesses we had the same values, so I proposed to her in August 2015 when I visited Ghana.

 My fiancé had the interview on on January 3rd, and the old White man thinks our case doesn't make sense. This is what happened. I came to Ghana myself to support my fiance during the final part of the process because I knew how important it was for us to be together. I gave her passport to show as a proof that am around, as the new rules in Ghana did not permit petitioners to be part of the interview. She answered every question, but when the CO got to the sheet describing how we met, he stopped to ask why after losing contact for 5 years, when we got back together again and then started dating I came back to Ghana to propose to her? She answered we mutual friends already before losing contact, so when we came back as friends again and then started dating, it was so easy for me to propose marriqge and also as Witnesses we shared the same values. He then said it doesn't make sense. Another question was why we allowed some to take pictures of us along the beach when I visited? She answered he is a friend who was with us because we needed a chaperone. That too didn't make sense in his ears. Our case was then DENIED. I have already contacted my senator's office and the reply they can't ask for second interview, but they will communicate with the embassy to know the reasons for denial and if it could be possible to schedule a second interview which I can be part of. For now its a sad moment, but am still hopeful  for our future because am  planning to extend( really costly on my part- work) my stay in Ghana and get married if its the last option before flying back to US. Thanks friends for your wonderful support during this process.

 

You see your problem right here?  This is the type of thing that gets an automatic denial in Accra.  You lost contact in 2008, but then the date was 2010.  Anything that was stated like this either at the interview or in any evidence is the quick reason for 221-G

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On what basis did you move to the US?


“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Thats kind of what sense I am getting.. The CO did not like that when you moved to the US, you two lost contact, then conveniently so to say met again and this time, with you being established in the US, started dating and all.. 

 

Not saying that is the case; but they have seem so many cases like this I am sure and it probably is a big reason everything was put into question then.


08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

07/08/2016 : NOA 1 Received

08/25/2016 : NOA 2 Received (48 days)

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/18/2016 : Visa in hand

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

03/06/2017 - NOA1's received via text

03/31/2017 - Biometrics appointment Completed

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

 

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My brother this is a tricky situation, you need to approach this process carefully.

 

First of all you need to get you dating timeline together so it can make sense. (years and the story don’t match up),

 

Secondly there are a few details in your story you have omitted. I will assume it’s for personal reasons.

 

How did you travel to the US (what type of visa)?

Have you been married/divorced in the US prior to your current marriage?  If this is yes "BINGO"

 

Personally battling K-1 denial in Accra is a waste of time.

I will advise you to get married in Ghana before you leave. Then go back to the states and allow yourself 8 to 12 months to organize substantial evidence to establish bona fide of the relationship then file I-130 for her.

 

Because assuming you have never been married before then the main reason for the K-1 denial is lack of bona fide and this same reason can come back to bit you again as 221g in a more advance stage at CR-1.

 

When dealing with USCIS/NVC/Consulate your best friend is Prayer, Patience and,Time. Many people on this site can relate to your pain and frustration right now but only the honest one’s here will tell you Patience will pay off one day.

 

My personal advice is never rush thru this immigration process especially when dealing with the CO’s in Accra. Take your time and be very Thorough in all your dealings with them, evidence and confidence will always come in-handy. 

 

For now i will say;

 Relax, console yourself and wife, get married, take lots of pictures with friends and family and don’t forget to look happy in the pictures.

 

Go back home give yourself one year to establish substantial evidence.

 

 File CR-1.

 

Prepare for the interview.

 

On the bright side, by the time she is scheduled for interview in Accra, it will be almost 2 years since you got married and she will be eligible for none conditional resident.On the bright side

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How did you move to the US? That could be a major factor, depending.


Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

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Sorry for your denial. You already know Ghana embassy is a mess so no need for me to repeat it.
I don't think they will grant you a 2. interview but it was worth a try.

The CO's there use their personal "this does not make sense" gauge to return bona fide petitions if it is not exactly like they

think a relationship should evolve be in their heads.
They are thinking the beach pics are staged and you are helping her with immigration benefits still just as a friend for possible payment.
Marry and file a CR1 after establishing evidence of a bona fide marriage, front load the petition and include a relationship

timeline letter with exact dates and events from when you first met until current.

Most are successful with a second filing.

Been there, done that and have the T-shirt.
This too shall pass.


Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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how did you get US citizenship? where did you live before? if your previous spouse a USC?

it defintely seems like a marriage of 'convenience' as soon as you move to the USA you petition for her. 

Ghana is tough for a reason - the COs have seen it all.  

IMO she was rightfully denied. 

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Yeah this sounds a bit weird. Seems you may have omitted some information that could be a reason behind the denial. Not asking for you to divulge more info, but its difficult for us to determine if the CO made a bad decision or not. Give a more detailed account of your story.

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Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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