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I'm currently in Vietnam now with my fiancée. Her parents are very worried about us with the whole K1 visa process. They've heard from other Vietnamese how difficult it can be. I'm waiting for my NOA2, I hope to get it any day now.

They really want us to hire a lawyer here in Vietnam to help us. But I'm already getting help from rapidvisa. And from my research I don't need a lawyer at all. I keep telling her to tell her parents that we don't need a lawyer.

Any suggestions?


03/03/16....We met somewhat randomly while I was on vacation in Southeast Asia.

08/08/16....We got engaged.

10/15/16....I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX

10/18/16....NOA1 Date on Hard Copy Received

10/20/16....NOA1 Date on Hard Copy Notice
10/22/16....NOA1 Text and Email, Case sent to CSC

02/07/17....NOA2...Finally!

03/30/17....Passed her interview! 

04/07/17....Visa in hand 

05/12/17....Arrived in the USA!!

05/24/17....Married!

07/10/17....Sent AoS package (I-485, I-131, I-765)

07/13/17....AoS Received date for NoA1

07/18/17....AoS Notice date for NoA1

07/26/17....1st Biometrics appt letter received date

08/04/17....2nd Biometrics appt letter received date 

08/07/17....Both Biometric appointments completed

10/29/17....I-766 Issued

 

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I certainly don't have an expertise with Vietnam, but generally the K1 process is a DIY process. If there are some flags in your case, it might not be a bad idea to seek professional assistance. Otherwise, I'm not sure what the lawyer would even do at this point (other than direct you to what forms to file or bring).


Timelines:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

?/?/18: Interview

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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My wife and I had zero problems bringing her from Việt Nam using a K1 visa. Getting a lawyer never crossed my mind, I just followed the instructions and took the advise of a few members on this site.

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K-1 Timeline

2015-01-04 :Submitted I-129F to Lewisville, TX Lockbox via USPS

2015-01-06 :Received delivery confirmation from USPS and routed to the USCIS California Service Center

2015-01-08 :NOA-1 (Received by text and email)

2015-01-12 :NOA-1 (Received official Receipt Notice)

2015-01-15 :Fiancée applied for single status certificate

2015-01-20 :Fiancée got household registration Book (Ho Khau)

2015-01-20 :Fiancée applied for Police Certificate #2 and received it the same day! Without coffee money!

2015-01-25 :Fiancée received her single status certificate

2015-01-30 :NOA-2 (Received approval in 22 days by text and email)

2015-02-04 :NOA-2 (Received official approval, Form I-797)

2015-02-17 :NVC received case

2015-02-18 :Received HCM# from NVC and case sent to Consulate
2015-02-21 :Submitted DS-160 form printed out confirmation barcode
2015-02-21 :Created online account on ustraveldocs.com/vn
2015-02-24 :Consulate Received
2015-02-24 :Paid visa fee $265
2015-02-24 :Mailed DS-160, copy of passport and 2 passport photos
2015-02-25 :Scheduled K-1 interview
2015-03-03 :Packet 3 Received, but my fiancée's name was misspelled
2015-03-03 :Did online inquiry to fix misspelled name
2015-03-15 :Correct spelling was fixed in the Consulate's system
2015-03-18 :Received updated Packet 3 with named spelled correctly
2015-03-18 :Scheduled medical exam @ Cho Ray Hospital
2015-03-26 :Medical exam and vaccinations completed
2015-04-07 :Received results from Cho Ray
2015-05-07 :Arrived in SG with I-134 and supporting documentation
2015-05-08 :Attending K-1 interview with my fiancee and she passed
2015-05-28 :Arrived at LAX and made it through customs without any problems
2015-06-06 :Got married!
2015-06-18 :Applied for SS card
2015-06-25 :Received SS card with her married name
AOS Timeline
2015-09-16 :Mailed AOS package to USCIS Chicago Lockbox
2015-09-18 :USPS delivered to Chicago Lockbox at 6:16 am
2015-09-22 :Received notification of AOS package via text and email
2015-09-24 :Check for AOS was cashed
2015-09-26 :Received three separate NOA-1 for forms I-485, I-131 and I-765
2015-10-05 :Received Biometrics appointment letter for the 14th of October @ 10 am
2015-10-14 :Completed Biometrics without any incidents
2015-11-18 :Received USCIS email/text update showing approval for I-131 and I-765 forms
2015-11-23 :Received USCIS Form I-797 in the mail
2015-11-24 :Received USCIS email/text update showing EAD/AP combo card mailed out
2016-02-19 :Received Learner's Permit from NV DMV
2016-03-18 :Received USCIS email/text update scheduling appointment for April 19th
2016-04-14 :Started working @ first job in the U.S.

2016-04-19 :Passed AOS interview

2016-04-20 :Green card being made.

2016-04-28 :Green card arrived in mail.

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Same with us I had no problems bringing my fiancee from Vietnam via K-1 we followed the guides from this site, and double checked the forms before sending them in, if you follow the guides on this site it shouldn't be a problem to do it yourself without a lawyer.

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No need for a lawyer. If you have done your homework and look at the forums on this site u should be fine.


K-1 Visa Timeline

I-129F Received : 2014-08-29

NOA1 : 2014-09-03

I-129F NOA2 : 2014-10-07

NVC Received : 2014-10-30

Paid visa fee $265 : 2014-11-19

Submitted DS-160 Form 2014-11-19

Interview scheduled - 2015-1-22

Visa Issued and in Hand on 2015-1-31!!       

 

AOS Timeline

Mailed out AOS Package to USCIS to Chicago Lockbox with tracking and signature 2015-05-09

USPS delivered to Chicago Lockbox and signed by R. Mercado 2015-05-12

Received email and text notification of AOS package 2015-05-15

Check Cashed today for AOS 2015-05-18

Received hard copy of NOA1's for 3 AOS packet 2015-05-21

Biometrics Appointment Letter received - 2015-06-01

Successful Biometrics walk in SF Field Office on 2015-06-03

EAD AP combo card in hand on 2015-08-04

Got email notification AOS interview scheduled on 2015-09-03

Interview for AOS date scheduled for 2015-10-06

Got Offical letter of interview notice on 2015-09-05

AOS Approved!!! Whoohoo!!!!

Green Card in Hand - 2015-10-14!!! YAY!!!

July 8,2017 window opens for I-751(ROC) filing

JULY 2017 I-751 FILERS, add your info here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BNtE6Ez-FCo07xup9PqiON2YUAY2iqy2ZepZBduxPYg/edit?usp=sharing

I-751 ( ROC )

July 8, 2017 mailed I-751 packet via USPS Priority Mail with Tracking #

July 10th, 2017 I-751 Package was delivered to PO Box to USCIS Laguna Niguel

July 12, 2017  Check cashed from CSC

July 13, 2017 Received NOA1 in the mail, NOA1 Dated July 10th

July 22, 2017 Biometrics letter received

Biometrics Appt on Aug. 1st

July 27, 2017 Walk in Biometrics Success

February 26, 2018 case transferred to local office

August 17, 2018 Received new extension letter

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Their money and if they want to spend it on a lawyer let them.


“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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On 12/28/2016 at 4:02 PM, Nowrya said:

I'm currently in Vietnam now with my fiancée. Her parents are very worried about us with the whole K1 visa process. They've heard from other Vietnamese how difficult it can be. I'm waiting for my NOA2, I hope to get it any day now.

They really want us to hire a lawyer here in Vietnam to help us. But I'm already getting help from rapidvisa. And from my research I don't need a lawyer at all. I keep telling her to tell her parents that we don't need a lawyer.

Any suggestions?

Hey there!

As many have stated, a lawyer is not needed. I do recommend that you leave no stone unturned.

What I mean is go above and beyond with documentation, proof of relationship, etc and prepare your fiancee for the toughest interview possible. I gave my fiancée about 100 questions to study and she was well prepared. Feel free to read my consulate review as I have noted some helpful items.

I think if you and your fiancee take the time to prepare you should be in good shape.

On a side note, my fiancee's parents were somewhat insinuating something similar about paying someone to help but I made it clear that it was going toe on my terms due to the fact that I thoroughly understood process.  It sounds like you have a good grasp of entire process. 

Best wishes!

 

 

 

 

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Lawyers in Vietnam can practice US laws? I'd trust visajourney resources over Vietnamese lawyers.  If getting a lawyer make you feel comfortable, then I think hiring one in US would be better.

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13 hours ago, Smartwater said:

Lawyers in Vietnam can practice US laws? I'd trust visajourney resources over Vietnamese lawyers.  If getting a lawyer make you feel comfortable, then I think hiring one in US would be better.

 

I think her family meant to say Immigration Services (Dich Vu), not lawyer. These services have inside people at the consulate in Saigon (or embassy in Hanoi) that will help place your case, coach you on the how-to's of the interview, what to say and what not to say and how to say it, and even guarantee that you will pass the interview or your money back. Two of the people I personally know have paid close to $1,500 USD for these services.

 

They usually work with someone else in the US to help the petitioner with the paperwork. Someone who may be an immigration lawyer or is well versed in immigration laws but not required to have a law degree.


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ROC Journey

09 MAY 2017: Mailed I-751 to California Svc Center (CSC)

11 MAY 2017: I-751 package delivered to CSC

15 MAY 2017: NOA1 sent (got lost in the mail)

31 MAY 2017: Biometrics letter received

05 JUN 2017: Completed biometrics (walk-in)

23 JUN 2017: Received replacement copy of NOA1
 

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N-400 Journey

14 MAY 2018: Mailed N-400 to Dallas Lockbox

17 MAY 2018: Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

04 JUN 2018: Received NOA1

08 JUN 2018: Received biometrics letter

21 JUN 2018: Completed biometrics

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10 hours ago, frontgear said:

 

I think her family meant to say Immigration Services (Dich Vu), not lawyer. These services have inside people at the consulate in Saigon (or embassy in Hanoi) that will help place your case, coach you on the how-to's of the interview, what to say and what not to say and how to say it, and even guarantee that you will pass the interview or your money back. Two of the people I personally know have paid close to $1,500 USD for these services.

 

They usually work with someone else in the US to help the petitioner with the paperwork. Someone who may be an immigration lawyer or is well versed in immigration laws but not required to have a law degree.

Ok well if you are comfortable with English and read up on visajourney you won't need those services.  I left the consulate and the consular sercurity guys warned me of not to use those kind.  In my experience, I think using those services would hinder your chances especially when it comes to paperwork and interview coached answers.

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21 hours ago, frontgear said:

 

I think her family meant to say Immigration Services (Dich Vu), not lawyer. These services have inside people at the consulate in Saigon (or embassy in Hanoi) that will help place your case, coach you on the how-to's of the interview, what to say and what not to say and how to say it, and even guarantee that you will pass the interview or your money back. Two of the people I personally know have paid close to $1,500 USD for these services.

 

They usually work with someone else in the US to help the petitioner with the paperwork. Someone who may be an immigration lawyer or is well versed in immigration laws but not required to have a law degree.

Her family didn't mean to say that. That sounds highly illegal. The lawyer they want to hire is just to make sure she has all the correct documents (birth certificate and w/e else she needs on her end). 


03/03/16....We met somewhat randomly while I was on vacation in Southeast Asia.

08/08/16....We got engaged.

10/15/16....I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX

10/18/16....NOA1 Date on Hard Copy Received

10/20/16....NOA1 Date on Hard Copy Notice
10/22/16....NOA1 Text and Email, Case sent to CSC

02/07/17....NOA2...Finally!

03/30/17....Passed her interview! 

04/07/17....Visa in hand 

05/12/17....Arrived in the USA!!

05/24/17....Married!

07/10/17....Sent AoS package (I-485, I-131, I-765)

07/13/17....AoS Received date for NoA1

07/18/17....AoS Notice date for NoA1

07/26/17....1st Biometrics appt letter received date

08/04/17....2nd Biometrics appt letter received date 

08/07/17....Both Biometric appointments completed

10/29/17....I-766 Issued

 

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42 minutes ago, Nowrya said:

Her family didn't mean to say that. That sounds highly illegal. The lawyer they want to hire is just to make sure she has all the correct documents (birth certificate and w/e else she needs on her end). 

Waste of money to hire a Vietnamese lawyer if you can read and follow directions.  

 

Vietnamese think that they need help from the "experts" around the US Consulate.  I've seen cases handled by US immigration attorneys that Vietnamese families insist be reviewed by these "experts."  

 

You can either give in to shut them up and be in a position where they dictate things in the future, or you can tell them no and that you have it under control.  If things go wrong and it's not your fault, they will blame you.  That's the Vietnamese mentality.

 

Best of luck.

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On 12/28/2016 at 7:02 PM, Nowrya said:

I'm currently in Vietnam now with my fiancée. Her parents are very worried about us with the whole K1 visa process. They've heard from other Vietnamese how difficult it can be. I'm waiting for my NOA2, I hope to get it any day now.

They really want us to hire a lawyer here in Vietnam to help us. But I'm already getting help from rapidvisa. And from my research I don't need a lawyer at all. I keep telling her to tell her parents that we don't need a lawyer.

Any suggestions?

Resist that pressure. You and your fiancee own this process, and it's a costly one, so the last thing you need to do is spend additional money on services that don't add value but also set a precedent that you're not in charge of your own relationship.

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We are waiting for our NOA2, but we all did our documents by ourselves. I dont think the process is too difficult to hire a lawyer. If your fiance's parents want to hire a lawyer let them pay for that haha. They just have heard about the process, they haven't read the instructions. So, the answer is No :D


K1 VISA TIMELINE:

 

 

11/09/16 --- I-129F mailed to Lewisville, TX
11/12/16 --- Delivered at Dallas Lock Box

11/16/16 --- NOA1 Date on hard copy notice

11/17/16 --- NOA1 Text and Email. Case sent to CSC

11/26/16 --- NOA1 hard copy received

03/16/17 --- NOA2 - 4 months of waiting 

03/25/17 --- NOA2 hard copy received

04/03/17 --- Case number received (18 days)

04/05/17 --- Case number sent to US Consular in HCM city

04/10/17 --- Case is ready (5 days shipping)

05/03/17--- Vaccination & Medical Exam

05/22/17--- Interview APPROVED! YAY!!!

05/24/17--- Visa was issued

05/27/17--- Visa in hand

06/16/17--- POE San Francisco

06/30/17--- Got married.

 

AOS TIMELINE:

08/25/17--- Sent AOS application to Chicago, IL

08/28/17--- Delivered.

09/??/17--- NOA1 Date on hard copy

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