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Honestly, you'd have to be pretty conspiratorial nowadays to conclude no Russian hacking happened. You'd have to be fairly one-sided to argue that the Comey letter had zero effect, and you'd have to be pretty partisan to argue that fake news isn't a thing.

That doesn't change the fact that Trump won fair and square, and that the Democrats' worst enemy is their own social justice hysteria. All they needed to do was hang onto white working class voters - The Democratic Party's bread and butter for the past 15 decades. Calling West Virginian coal miners, Pennsylvanian factory workers and Iowan farmers "privileged racists" didn't work? Must be the Russians.

Winning Michigan by 0.2% isn't a "landslide." But Republicans haven't won Michigan for nearly 30 years, and Trump was behind in the state by nearly 10 points. That is a blowout.

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Trump supporters continue to laugh off an attack by Russia and trumps campaign on the sovereignty of the United States. So much for cons be patriots.....

Welcome to the third world (or is it Reich?)

BTW trump lost by nearly 3 million votes


Trump supporters continue to laugh off an attack by Russia and trumps campaign on the sovereignty of the United States. So much for cons be patriots.....

Welcome to the third world (or is it Reich?)

BTW trump lost by nearly 3 million votes

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Trump supporters continue to laugh off an attack by Russia and trumps campaign on the sovereignty of the United States. So much for cons be patriots.....

Welcome to the third world (or is it Reich?)

BTW trump lost by nearly 3 million votes

Trump supporters continue to laugh off an attack by Russia and trumps campaign on the sovereignty of the United States. So much for cons be patriots.....

Welcome to the third world (or is it Reich?)

BTW trump lost by nearly 3 million votes

Butt Hurt Much?

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Calling West Virginian coal miners, Pennsylvanian factory workers and Iowan farmers "privileged racists" didn't work? Must be the Russians.

Very True, Then she doubles down and calls half of the Trump Supporters Deplorable. It only showed she is/was a white female elitist and racist. Her mentality is that she is better than the average American.

Hillary is nothing more than a power hungry politician, whom would say or do anything she could to win the Presidency. She thought she was above the law and was a lock to win the election. Reality hit her in the face on the early morning of November 9th.

Bye Felicia

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Trump supporters continue to laugh off an attack by Russia and trumps campaign on the sovereignty of the United States. So much for cons be patriots.....

Welcome to the third world (or is it Reich?)

BTW trump lost by nearly 3 million votes

Trump supporters continue to laugh off an attack by Russia and trumps campaign on the sovereignty of the United States. So much for cons be patriots.....

Welcome to the third world (or is it Reich?)

BTW trump lost by nearly 3 million votes

So a hack of one of our political party's inner workings is an attack to the sovereignty of the US? The DNC is not essential to the sovereignty of this country and is in fact a private institution that is responsible for its own security.

Do I think foreign intelligence agencies hack the US systems including those of private institutions? Sure, as I am sure the CIA/NSA do it as well (wasn't there a story about the NSA tapping Angela Merkel's cell phones a while back?).

I would like to see proof the Russians provided the information to Wikileaks before I condemn them rather than believing hyperbole and conjecture from the losing side. If I were Russia and I had the goods on Hillary, I wouldn't release it to Wikileaks, I would have kept it secret for use later against her which I am sure several countries were planning to do if she was elected.

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So a hack of one of our political party's inner workings is an attack to the sovereignty of the US? The DNC is not essential to the sovereignty of this country and is in fact a private institution that is responsible for its own security.

If you want to take that position, just don't whine when it's the Republicans who get hacked and Wiki-leaked next time. As you well know, Putin's interests can change. I remember how overwhelmingly the Russians were against John McCain in 2008.

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Very True, Then she doubles down and calls half of the Trump Supporters Deplorable. It only showed she is/was a white female elitist and racist. Her mentality is that she is better than the average American.

Hillary is nothing more than a power hungry politician, whom would say or do anything she could to win the Presidency. She thought she was above the law and was a lock to win the election. Reality hit her in the face on the early morning of November 9th.

Bye Felicia

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That may be the most truthful thing Hillary said during her campaign. I haven't seen anything that shows me otherwise.

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Very True, Then she doubles down and calls half of the Trump Supporters Deplorable. It only showed she is/was a white female elitist and racist. Her mentality is that she is better than the average American.

Hillary is nothing more than a power hungry politician, whom would say or do anything she could to win the Presidency. She thought she was above the law and was a lock to win the election. Reality hit her in the face on the early morning of November 9th.

Bye Felicia

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Really ? Funny, because I think the same about Trump, the power hungry elitist sitting in his golden tower, tweeting

nonsense 24/7 and being his racist misogynistic self. All he needs now is a golden throne to relate to the working class

who will soon see that what he is about is not them but his corporate entourage.

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Trump supporters continue to laugh off an attack by Russia and trumps campaign on the sovereignty of the United States. So much for cons be patriots.....

Welcome to the third world (or is it Reich?)

BTW trump lost by nearly 3 million votes

There is a lot of truth to the fact that if the emails being released were those between Kellyanne Conway and Donald Trump, or if a certain video of Donald Trump on a bus had been released by Russian hackers via Wikileaks, Trump supporters would be calling for aerial bombardment of Moscow's suburbs.

As for Trump 'losing.' Let's lay it to rest, he didn't.

He won the game that was played by the established rules. Had the rules been different, the strategy would have been different, and it would have been a different election altogether. It's a little like saying the Cavs didn't win the NBA playoffs because the Warriors won the first 3 games. That might be true, but if it was a best out of 5 playoff from the get-go, the Cavs might have used Lebron more in games 1 and 2. The Cavs planned for, strategized and were best out of 7, so they won the playoffs. The Trump campaign planned for, strategized and won 270+ electoral votes so he won the election.

There is no way of knowing how many California Republicans didn't vote because "my state is blue anyway." Or how many Texas Democrats didn't vote because "Texas is red anyway" for that matter. Or how many Utah Republicans voted for Evan McMullin because "Clinton's gonna win anyway."

That being said, I think a reform where winning the popular vote counts for X amount of electoral votes should be considered on Capitol Hill.

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