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I did my medical exam last Friday and the nurse at the designated clinic refused to fill out a DS-3025 for me, even though I brought my vaccination history and it says on their website they do it upon request.

How much does a US civil surgeon charge to do this?

Do I need to bring official translations of my vaccination history, or can I just provide my own (or a friend's) translation?

Will they accept my Spanish vaccination records, even if part of them are in a small booklet that doesn't look professional (that's what they used in the 80s here)?

Thanks.

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I did my medical exam last Friday and the nurse at the designated clinic refused to fill out a DS-3025 for me, even though I brought my vaccination history and it says on their website they do it upon request.

How much does a US civil surgeon charge to do this?

Do I need to bring official translations of my vaccination history, or can I just provide my own (or a friend's) translation?

Will they accept my Spanish vaccination records, even if part of them are in a small booklet that doesn't look professional (that's what they used in the 80s here)?

Thanks.

i hope my story helps you out, I moved to the US with a b2 visa and then i applied for AOS. I did not bring my vaccination records, the USCIS has a link where you can find a clinic near your home for the medical examination, I paid $160 , they also do a tuberculosis test.

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I did my medical exam last Friday and the nurse at the designated clinic refused to fill out a DS-3025 for me, even though I brought my vaccination history and it says on their website they do it upon request.

How much does a US civil surgeon charge to do this?

Do I need to bring official translations of my vaccination history, or can I just provide my own (or a friend's) translation?

Will they accept my Spanish vaccination records, even if part of them are in a small booklet that doesn't look professional (that's what they used in the 80s here)?

Thanks.

Well, they're supposed to fill it out for the medical package that they send to the embassy and that you later present to the CBP officer at your POE, but they are supposed to give you a copy of this (not a separately signed one, but a photocopy). It even says so on the form itself. If I were you I'd try to contact them again. The most important thing is that it's in the medical package though.Your copy is mostly for record keeping and so that you can feel secure in knowing it's filled in properly when applying for aos later.

As for what documentation a civil surgeon here in the US would accept or not I don't know. I do know from reading other VJ'ers experiences that some of the US CS's don't want to do ONLY the vaccination part of the medical when asked but rather insist on doing another whole medical exam, which is expensive.

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Well, they're supposed to fill it out for the medical package that they send to the embassy and that you later present to the CBP officer at your POE, but they are supposed to give you a copy of this (not a separately signed one, but a photocopy). It even says so on the form itself. If I were you I'd try to contact them again. The most important thing is that it's in the medical package though.Your copy is mostly for record keeping and so that you can feel secure in knowing it's filled in properly when applying for aos later.

As for what documentation a civil surgeon here in the US would accept or not I don't know. I do know from reading other VJ'ers experiences that some of the US CS's don't want to do ONLY the vaccination part of the medical when asked but rather insist on doing another whole medical exam, which is expensive.

Well, the nurse refused to fill it out. She just refused. She told me a long story about them not having "the specific form for K1", but now I saw that the form is the same for all visas. I think she literally just didn't feel like doing it.

Are you then saying I'm gonna need the DS-3025 for the civil surgeon? What can I do, if this lady refused to fill one out for me?

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Well, the nurse refused to fill it out. She just refused. She told me a long story about them not having "the specific form for K1", but now I saw that the form is the same for all visas. I think she literally just didn't feel like doing it.

Are you then saying I'm gonna need the DS-3025 for the civil surgeon? What can I do, if this lady refused to fill one out for me?

The doctor is supposed to fill it out not the nurse. This is part of the K1 medical and this SHOULD be in the package that they sent to the embassy. You yourself don't really NEED a copy of that but like I said it's nice to have to know everything was filled in correctly.

I don't know what the docs here require. Most likely you would have to take any vaccination shots that are needed to fulfill the requirements, which if there is no record of any shots would mean all shots.

A overseas K1 medical is not a complete K1 medical without the DS-3025 vaccination worksheet.

If you are worried about whether they did it correctly for your medical I would contact them again, since only they know, and have them address your concerns.

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The doctor said the nurse dealt with the vaccines, and the nurse said she wouldn't do it because "the requirements are different in each state" and "they don't have a form for K1". And that I should call a civil surgeon from here. ?

This is all so confusing. I have written my embassy, and when they answer I'll call the clinic again.

Thank you.

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The doctor said the nurse dealt with the vaccines, and the nurse said she wouldn't do it because "the requirements are different in each state" and "they don't have a form for K1". And that I should call a civil surgeon from here. ?

This is all so confusing. I have written my embassy, and when they answer I'll call the clinic again.

Thank you.

The signature field on the DS-3025 calls for the signature of a panel physician, not a nurse. Granted she might tick the boxes, but a physician has sign it. The requirements are not different in each state. There is a box on the bottom of the DS-3025 that says "US vaccination requirements COMPLETE"... Theses are national requirements. What she told you seems really odd! Also you are right, there is only ONE form and you are entitled to a copy of it once filled out, it says so on the very TOP of the form itself. You do NOT need to call a civil surgeon, They are supposed to do this for you. It is a part of the overseas medical. You really need to call them and talk to them again. Your only other option is to have it done in the US which will cost you both time and money.

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The doctor said the nurse dealt with the vaccines, and the nurse said she wouldn't do it because "the requirements are different in each state" and "they don't have a form for K1". And that I should call a civil surgeon from here. ?

This is all so confusing. I have written my embassy, and when they answer I'll call the clinic again.

Thank you.

that makes zero sense. the requirements are federal not state level

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Just for comparison. I gave all my vaccination records to the nurses in the reception, but my DS-3025 was signed by the doctor. Also they did not give me a copy (even though it says they should) but I talked to them afterwards and they sent it to me. I realize that you're in Spain but the requirements from the US side are the same regardless.

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Hi there, while I can't tell you what your specific clinic did properly or improperly during your exam, I can tell you that per the requirements, a K1 does not have to have these vaccinations to pass their interview and receive their K1. The DS3025, is merely a copy of the full form that should go into your packet being sent along to the embassy and then brought to your POE in the 'do not open' envelope. I believe there are a few countries/foreign civil surgeons that don't give out the form or even bother. Not really fair to the patients, and nurses/doctors do not belong giving out immigration advice either. However, it won't prevent you from proceeding. Come AOS time is when you require the vaccinations. Whether you'll get an RFE for this at AOS time will be up to a host of different factors. Some people get them even after sending their DS3025 copy anyway. The copy makes it a little easier to go see a US Civil Surgeon if that happens, but I don't think it will be a huge issue. Extra hassle and money yes. In this case, if you should get an RFE, you'd go to a US CS, and bring whatever proof you've got of vaccinations (I'd probably translate them if need be) and have them fill out an I-693 (the relevant portion per the instructions) and respond with that. Of course finding a US CS that will do just the vaccination sheet will be the primary issue. The other issue would be if you get an RFE in the first place and if the caseworker will have given you an RFE for the correct thing (not the full medical.. but fair warning that can happen too). In either case be prepared by being proactive.

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The doctor said the nurse dealt with the vaccines, and the nurse said she wouldn't do it because "the requirements are different in each state" and "they don't have a form for K1". And that I should call a civil surgeon from here. ?

This is all so confusing. I have written my embassy, and when they answer I'll call the clinic again.

Thank you.

Ditto what Transborderwife said. Immigration is federal not state. I would print out the AOS requirements and go back to that medical facility. You have paid to have this done in your medical fee to them. I would be very firm with them. Make sure they mark the complete box too.

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Hi there, while I can't tell you what your specific clinic did properly or improperly during your exam, I can tell you that per the requirements, a K1 does not have to have these vaccinations to pass their interview and receive their K1. The DS3025, is merely a copy of the full form that should go into your packet being sent along to the embassy and then brought to your POE in the 'do not open' envelope. I believe there are a few countries/foreign civil surgeons that don't give out the form or even bother. Not really fair to the patients, and nurses/doctors do not belong giving out immigration advice either. However, it won't prevent you from proceeding. Come AOS time is when you require the vaccinations. Whether you'll get an RFE for this at AOS time will be up to a host of different factors. Some people get them even after sending their DS3025 copy anyway. The copy makes it a little easier to go see a US Civil Surgeon if that happens, but I don't think it will be a huge issue. Extra hassle and money yes. In this case, if you should get an RFE, you'd go to a US CS, and bring whatever proof you've got of vaccinations (I'd probably translate them if need be) and have them fill out an I-693 (the relevant portion per the instructions) and respond with that. Of course finding a US CS that will do just the vaccination sheet will be the primary issue. The other issue would be if you get an RFE in the first place and if the caseworker will have given you an RFE for the correct thing (not the full medical.. but fair warning that can happen too). In either case be prepared by being proactive.

What do you mean "the DS3025, is merely a copy of the full form"

It's a form in itself. The copy that she's suppose to have...is...merely a copy. The issue is if they have not included it in the package she most definitely will get an RFE. The case where she might not get an RFE is when they have completed it and included it in the package but you just don't have a copy to send along with your AOS application (not needed). In that case you can get an RFE if they have lost it or it's not filled in correctly. If it's not there at all to begin with the requirements are simply not met.

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I am obviously in a different country so my experience may be different to yours...

The vaccinations doesn't depend on what state you are going to live in, its nationwide as previous poster has advised.

The vaccinations at Knightsbridge were done by the Nurse and not the Doctor.

Also I would have thought the vaccinations should have been written up for you on the form as this is part of what you are paying for and will need this for your AOS. You do not need any of the vaccines for your K1 but you do need them for the AOS.

I also think a US CS will do the vaccines as well as write them up but you should really be able to have them done and written up in your own country prior going to the US (at your medical)

I could be wrong and i should probably keep my opinions to myself but it sounds like they just could not be bothered to do it but you would be a lot better off searching it for your country and look at other peoples experiences with that doctors.

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