K-1 Visa Joint Sponsor Questions - I-134

[FindingAnswers 16]

Hi, I have been going through the K-1 Visa process since mid-October and so far, everything is going smoothly! I just received today notice from NVC that they are forwarding the application to Stockholm, where my fiancé lives. Now, I just have some questions about the interview process and also the financial requirements. I'm currently a 3rd year college student and unemployed so my tax returns don't show anything. However, money I have received from my parents and money from a settlement I received can be seen in my bank account statements. So, as far as the I-134 document, would paperwork such as my bank account showing substantial amounts of money be acceptable? I read that you can also show property you own/assets, how would I show the value of these or would I simply show the deeds/titles to said items? Are copies of those documents acceptable? I can't imagine they'd request originals.

I have also thought about my parents sponsoring, which they would be fine with doing. Would they be filing an I-134 as well?

Final questions: who would I send these to? Do I send this to my fiancé in Sweden or someone else? Do they request these after the interview or before? Also, in your personal opinion, do you think my petition would be approved based on what I've stated regarding my situation?

Thank you in advance, I know it's a lot but I've been scouring google for answers that I can't seem to find!

Sam

One quick last question! Does anyone have experience with the Stockholm Embassy and how long it would be until the interview? I received notice from NVC that they're forwarding it to Stockholm, just to give you some info.

Edited December 5, 2016 by FindingAnswers

[A'n'L 735]

If you're going to use assets, you need at least 3x the income requirement in liquid assets. Your primary residence and first/only car cannot be counted. You'll need to show that the money has been in your possession for some amount of time (bank statements for the last year would be good). For other property you'll need to show official value assessments.

Your parents can sponsor. They would also need to fill out an I134 and submit supporting evidence.

The I134 and original supporting evidence will be brought to the interview by your fiancé.

The Stockholm consulate let's the applicant schedule their own interview. It's usually possible to get an interview date no.more than 1,5 months out.

Join us in the Scandinavia thread in the regional forum for more tips and tricks ;-)

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

Hi, I have been going through the K-1 Visa process since mid-October and so far, everything is going smoothly! I just received today notice from NVC that they are forwarding the application to Stockholm, where my fiancé lives. Now, I just have some questions about the interview process and also the financial requirements. I'm currently a 3rd year college student and unemployed so my tax returns don't show anything. However, money I have received from my parents and money from a settlement I received can be seen in my bank account statements. So, as far as the I-134 document, would paperwork such as my bank account showing substantial amounts of money be acceptable? I read that you can also show property you own/assets, how would I show the value of these or would I simply show the deeds/titles to said items? Are copies of those documents acceptable? I can't imagine they'd request originals.

I have also thought about my parents sponsoring, which they would be fine with doing. Would they be filing an I-134 as well?

Final questions: who would I send these to? Do I send this to my fiancé in Sweden or someone else? Do they request these after the interview or before? Also, in your personal opinion, do you think my petition would be approved based on what I've stated regarding my situation?

Thank you in advance, I know it's a lot but I've been scouring google for answers that I can't seem to find!

Sam

One quick last question! Does anyone have experience with the Stockholm Embassy and how long it would be until the interview? I received notice from NVC that they're forwarding it to Stockholm, just to give you some info.

Hi!

Have you read the instructions? https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-134instr.pdf

If the value of your own assets is more than 100% of the poverty line for your household size you'll be fine. Assets must be readily convertible to cash without financial hardship.

Since you have no job income, I would submit as much as I can and attach a statement to your situation. Once you do the AOS when your fiancée is in the states you will fill out a more comprehensive form. Perhaps you'll have a job by the or you can opt to include your parents as co-sponsor at that time. That affidavit requires 125% of poverty line and probably using your parents at that stage wouldn't hurt

You send it to your fiancée and she brings it to the interview. I had copies and original documents with me at the Stockholm embassy. They may ask for originals of any submitted copies including what was sent with i-129f package. Remember that your fiancée needs to have certified copies of any documents that she brings that are in Swedish. You should be getting an email with everything she needs to bring.

I was able to book an interview within 2-3 weeks, the medical was harder to get an appointment for, and needs to be done at least 11 days prior to interview by recommendation. Has she had it yet? She will need the case number from NVC to book medical. I'm guessing she will/has done it at Sibyllekliniken?

Has your fiancée filled out the DS-160? She needs to pay the consular fee on the traveldocs website, book the interview and bring the confirmation pdf with the DUI number and bar code...

Good luck with it all

EDIT: Value of assets are counted as previous poster mentioned

Edited December 5, 2016 by Suss&Camm

[FindingAnswers 16]

Hi!

Have you read the instructions? https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-134instr.pdf

If the value of your own assets is more than 100% of the poverty line for your household size you'll be fine. Assets must be readily convertible to cash without financial hardship.

Since you have no job income, I would submit as much as I can and attach a statement to your situation. Once you do the AOS when your fiancée is in the states you will fill out a more comprehensive form. Perhaps you'll have a job by the or you can opt to include your parents as co-sponsor at that time. That affidavit requires 125% of poverty line and probably using your parents at that stage wouldn't hurt

You send it to your fiancée and she brings it to the interview. I had copies and original documents with me at the Stockholm embassy. They may ask for originals of any submitted copies including what was sent with i-129f package. Remember that your fiancée needs to have certified copies of any documents that she brings that are in Swedish. You should be getting an email with everything she needs to bring.

I was able to book an interview within 2-3 weeks, the medical was harder to get an appointment for, and needs to be done at least 11 days prior to interview by recommendation. Has she had it yet? She will need the case number from NVC to book medical. I'm guessing she will/has done it at Sibyllekliniken?

Has your fiancée filled out the DS-160? She needs to pay the consular fee on the traveldocs website, book the interview and bring the confirmation pdf with the DUI number and bar code...

Good luck with it all

EDIT: Value of assets are counted as previous poster mentioned

Alright, so the original documents... would I be sending originals of asset documents (vehicle titles etc)?

The letter I received stated they would send my Fiance his required list of things to do. Should he wait until the letter comes to do the DS-160 an book the interview or should he reach out to book the interview now? Same with the medical?

Thanks!

[A'n'L 735]

Alright, so the original documents... would I be sending originals of asset documents (vehicle titles etc)?

The letter I received stated they would send my Fiance his required list of things to do. Should he wait until the letter comes to do the DS-160 an book the interview or should he reach out to book the interview now? Same with the medical?

Thanks!

The instructions from the consulate come by email, and is often sent to the petitioner (both of you should be checking your spam filters regularly).

As long as you have your case number though, there is really nothing stopping you from progressing. Except, wait until you have the email (=know the embassy has received your case), before booking the interview. I've seen one or two cases where the embassy cancelled the booking because they didn't recognize the case.

Edited December 6, 2016 by A'n'L

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

Alright, so the original documents... would I be sending originals of asset documents (vehicle titles etc)?

The letter I received stated they would send my Fiance his required list of things to do. Should he wait until the letter comes to do the DS-160 an book the interview or should he reach out to book the interview now? Same with the medical?

Thanks!

He can do the DS-160 now. He can schedule the interview once the email is received (but perhaps better to know first when you get an appointment for medical) and if you have the NVC case number he can e-mail Sibyllekliniken for the medical. They only schedule by email.

If he has not yet gathered his vaccination history, he should do that aswell.. The doc will want to take copies and needs to know what (if any) shots he's missing so they can administer them and fill in your vaccination worksheet (DS-3025). Also tell him to ask for copy of that worksheet for his records.

Oh, and as far as original titles - copies will suffice, but for example a bank statement will be written by the bank on official stationary and with date and signature specifically for this occasion. In this case make copies (but can be done in Sweden ofc to save postage) and bring both. If they take the original, it's still good for you to have a copy of everything that's been handed over. For us they were happy with copies and didn't need to submit the originals.

Edited December 6, 2016 by Suss&Camm

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

just noted that i wrote certified copies in my first answer and it won't let me edit anymore. It should be certified translations

Edited December 6, 2016 by Suss&Camm

[FindingAnswers 16]

Okay, thank you both do much for answrring those questions for me. I have one other though. For the medical exam, is it all out of pocket? I read on the travel.state.gov site that its $400+. Is this true or does it get partially covered in sweden because of your healthcare etc?

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

Okay, thank you both do much for answrring those questions for me. I have one other though. For the medical exam, is it all out of pocket? I read on the travel.state.gov site that its $400+. Is this true or does it get partially covered in sweden because of your healthcare etc?

Since this is totally optional and not an exam required for medical purposes it's all out of pocket yes. It is expensive...

Sibyllekliniken issues medical reports for visa applicants to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and USA.

To schedule an appointment, please send an email to Visumintyg@Sibyllekliniken.Com med with the following details:

• For visa to USA:
  • Swedish personnummer (if you do not have one please send your birthdate and your full name, including middle names)
  • Telephone number
  • Case/STK number

The prices for any vaccinations he'll need to add are found here:

http://www.sibyllekliniken.se/index.php/vaccinationer

Below is the info I got from the clinic when I emailed them (in Swedish and English). I hope this helps.

Information for U.S Visa applicants

Läkarundersökningen kostar 3.300 kronor. Barn under 15 år 1.200kr. Lungröntgen tillkommer. Avbokning / ombokning måste ske senast 1 dygn innan besöket. I annat fall utgår en avgift på 900 kr.

Lungröntgen sker på Sophiahemmet, Valhallavägen 91 tel: 08-406 23 00. Drop- in Måndag-Fredag 8-16. Kostnad 536 kr. Medtag pass och 1 foto. Barn under 15 år behöver normalt ej göra lungröntgen. Röntgen ska ske innan ni kommer på läkarundersökningen.

Inför läkarundersökningen på Sibyllekliniken ska du ta med dig pass, 4 passfoton ( 1 foto är till röntgen, svensk standardstorlek), glasögon/linser om det används. Om du använder linser måste dessa kunnas tas ut på plats. OBS! Tag med underlaget för gjorda vaccinationer, eller intyg från behandlande läkare eller sjuksköterska på genomgången sjukdom. Saknas detta MÅSTE du endera vaccinera dig mot de sjukdomar som krävs enligt amerikanska regler, eller ta blodprov för att se om du har antikroppar(immunitet) mot dem. Extra kostnad tillkommer för detta blodprov, liksom för de vaccinationer som krävs (300 - 4000kr). Vaccinationerna kan ges här på Sibyllekliniken. Beroende på ålder är vaccinationskraven olika för visumsökande till USA. Närmare information om detta finns på websiten för immigranter. Ett syfilistest(blodprov) krävs för alla 15 år och äldre som söker immigrant visa. Ingen extrakostnad tillkommer för detta. Man behöver ej vara fastande. Från 1/10 2016 tillkommer ett gonorreéprov för alla över 15 år, som tas i urinen. Du måste undvika att urinera minst 2 timmar innan provtagningen. En kostnad på 300kr tillkommer för detta prov.

Om du har eller har haft någon ”allvarlig” eller kronisk sjukdom , kan ett läkarintyg från behandlande läkare komma att krävas. Det är bra om du har med det vid besöket här. Om ytterligare utredning avseende ditt hälsotillstånd krävs, tillkommer kostnader för detta.

Du måste kunna ange dels den adress du är skriven på, dels den adress du ska vistas på i USA.

Du måste även kunna ange vilken visumtyp du söker.

Observera att du MÅSTE kunna tala BRA svenska eller engelska! I annat fall krävs att du har en tolk som kan översätta. Om detta saknas kommer undersökningen inte att kunna utföras.

Om du tilldelats ett case/alien number så ska detta medtagas.

Normalt tar det 7-10 dagar innan intyget är klart. Om kompletterande utredning eller prover krävs kan det dock dröja längre tid. Vi skickar sedan intyget till amerikanska ambassaden i Stockholm.

Intyget är giltigt i 6 månader .

Övriga frågor besvaras via mail: visumintyg@sibyllekliniken.com

Examination cost is 3.300 SEK.For children under 15 years of age the cost is 1.200 SEK. Chest X-ray is not included. Cancellation/ Rebooking no later than 24 hours before the consultation. Otherwise a fee of 900 SEK is charged.

For the Chest X-ray you contact or visit Sophiahemmet, Valhallavägen 91, phonenumber: 08-406 23 00. They have Drop-In Monday-Friday 8 am-4 pm. The X-ray cost is 536 SEK. Bring passport and 1 photo. Children under 15 years normally don´t have to do the X-ray. This examination should be done before you visit us at Sibyllekliniken.

When you have made an appointment at Sibyllekliniken you need to bring:

Passport, 4 passphotos (1 photo is for the X-ray, swedish standardsize), glasses/lenses if you use that. If you use lensen you have to be able to take them out. Please observe that a vaccination record or a certificate from a treating doctor or nurse is mandatory! Otherwise you have to either take required vaccinations, or take a bloodtest to see if you have antibodies(immunity). There is an additional cost for these tests and for vaccinations that are given (300 – 4000 kr). The vaccinations can be given here at Sibyllekliniken. Depending on age there are certain vaccinations that are mandatory. You can find information on the information website for U.S Immigrants. For all immigration visa applicants 15 years of age or older a syphilistest(blood test) is taken at the clinic, this is included in the initial cost. You can eat before the test. After October 10^t 2016 a gonorrhea test is also required for applicants 15 years of age or older. It is taken from a urine sample, and you are not allowed to urinate 2 hours before testing. An additional cost of 300 SEK is added for this test.

If you have a “serious” or chronic disease, a certificate from your treating doctor can be asked for. It´s god if you, in that case, bring it when you come to Sibyllekliniken. If additional examinations regarding your health condition are required, extra costs will be added.

You need to tell us your actual address of residency, and your intended address in the US.

We also need your Visa category.

Observe that you MUST be able to speak GOOD Swedish or English, otherwise you have to bring an interpreter, that can translate. Otherwise the examination cannot be performed.

If you have a case/alien number you need to bring it.

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

BTW

[FindingAnswers 16]

Thanks for everything guys!

[FindingAnswers 16]

I have another question! So my Fiance has scheduled his interview and his medical exam. For the chest xray, will he be able to drop in in the morning and have it done and ready to go with him to his 1 PM appt for the medical? Or is that not able to be done?

[Suss&Camm 2,213]

I have another question! So my Fiance has scheduled his interview and his medical exam. For the chest xray, will he be able to drop in in the morning and have it done and ready to go with him to his 1 PM appt for the medical? Or is that not able to be done?

I called Sofiahemmet and asked them about this, cus that's exactly what I wanted to do as well. The lady said no problem it will only take you around 30 min and that's exactly how long it took. Also the two places are about a 10-15 min walk apart. Of course some extra time is still always good to have

Oh and yes they have drop-in for this...

Edited December 13, 2016 by Suss&Camm

[FindingAnswers 16]

Awesome! Thanks for the help!! I appreciate it a ton.

[Ash.1101 1,755]

If you have no job, then you'll have to prove you have 3x the amount in assets to cover the missing amount of income. MOST consulates look at the 125% poverty line because you're expected to AOS after marriage, which will be 125% of the poverty line. Some people expect the consulate to take 100% because that's TECHNICALLY the rules for the I-134, but the I-134 is used for both visitors, K-1, and other visas. K-1 is non-immigrant with immigrant intent, and they're aware you're going to need more money down the line, so almost all consulates look at the 125% instead of the 100%. To them, there's no point of sending your fiance here if he's going to waste away and can't AOS because the requirements won't be met.

If you don't have a job and no income at all, then you have to cover the ENTIRETY of the 20,025 (125% poverty line https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p for a household of two) and then multiply that for 3.

You would need to prove you have AT LEAST 60,075$ to meet the 125% requirement, or 48060 if for some reason they do take the 100%. This needs to be all in money that can be EASILY cashed out.

You can not use your house or your first car, as that would cause a hardship. You can use anything else, but you will have to have it appraised by an appraiser, and then include the letter from the appraiser saying how much X item is worth.

Make sure that you get bank documents showing when money was given to you. If it was given soon, they may not like that, so make sure you have documentation of where the money came from.

Unless you do have over 60,000$ in the bank, with full documentation on how you got it, and not too close to the line, the normal advice is for anyone without income to go ahead and have someone (your parents in this case) co-sponsor. There's no harm in having their paperwork for cosponsoring at the interview, if they don't accept what you have, you have a back up. It's extra insurance for them to make sure your fiance will be 100% good in the US.



Oh and if your parents cosponsor, they fill out and provide the same info you do for the most part. They would provide a filled out I-134, provide tax return/W2, or tax transcript, a letter from employer stating how long employment has been going on, part time or permanent position, and slated annual salary, and then all of that is backed up by a couple of months worth of pay stubs. If they make over what is needed for their household (them, any dependants they claim on a tax return or children under 18, and your fiance) then assets don't need to be included.

Edited December 14, 2016 by Ash.1101