It turns out Podesta's emails being hacked by the Russians is just a conspiracy theory

[jg121783 3,907]

It turns out the Podesta emails were not hacked by the Russians as Hillary and the Democrats have been claiming. In fact they were not hacked it all. It was simply a case of Podesta using a weak password and some kid in their mom's basement guessing the password which was "p@ssw0rd". The Democrats wanted us worried about Russians hacking emails and maybe even hacking the election but it turns out that is a baseless conspiracy theory.

[smilesammich 10,727]

turns out i'm going to need to see some links, i'm not really sure but i think there might be a couple bits of bias in your statement above. can't know for certain without some links. nothing from fox. or vox. k? thanks.

[jg121783 3,907]

turns out i'm going to need to see some links, i'm not really sure but i think there might be a couple bits of bias in your statement above. can't know for certain without some links. nothing from fox. or vox. k? thanks.

Here we go again. "I don't agree with you so it must be Fox News". Pathetic.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Here we go again. "I don't agree with you so it must be Fox News". Pathetic.

i asked for links. and you give me no links. deplorable!

[Teddy B 17,251]

i asked for links. and you give me no links. deplorable!

Been his mo since he started posting last week. Telling everyone they're full of phooey without facts & links, but then posts nothing backed up by facts & links.

Edited October 24, 2016 by Teddy B

[jg121783 3,907]

Let me get this straight. The Democrats run around telling us the Ruskies are out to get us without a shred of evidence and it is my responsibility to disprove their delusional conspiracy theory?

[Teddy B 17,251]

Let me get this straight. The Democrats run around telling us the Ruskies are out to get us without a shred of evidence and it is my responsibility to disprove their delusional conspiracy theory?

You already asked this question last week and were told that the people on this board do not believe that, that's why we're not talking about it.

Please see this link for proof: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/613825-trump-wont-commit-to-accepting-election-results-if-he-loses/?p=8351467

Now, please supply the link that supports the claims you made in the original post of this thread.

Edited October 24, 2016 by Teddy B

[jg121783 3,907]

You already asked this question last week and were told that the people on this board do not believe that, that's why we're not talking about it.

Please see this link for proof: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/613825-trump-wont-commit-to-accepting-election-results-if-he-loses/?p=8351467

Now, please supply the link that supports the claims you made in the original post of this thread.

Are you saying you disagree with Hillary Clinton and other democrats when they say Trump works for the Russians, the Wikileaks leaked emails came from Russian hackers and the Russians might try to hack our elections? I just want to be clear on this.

[Teddy B 17,251]

Are you saying you disagree with Hillary Clinton and other democrats when they say Trump works for the Russians, the Wikileaks leaked emails came from Russian hackers and the Russians might try to hack our elections? I just want to be clear on this.

You asking all of the questions and me supplying all of the answers without you answering my questions is not how this is going to go.

[jg121783 3,907]

You asking all of the questions and me supplying all of the answers without you answering my questions is not how this is going to go.

So you do believe the Ruskies are out to get us. That's what I thought.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Can someone please name the 17 security agencies that have publicly declared it was the Russians and a link verifying it.

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

Can someone please name the 17 security agencies that have publicly declared it was the Russians and a link verifying it.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national

Department of Homeland Security and the United States Intelligence Committee ("USIC") which is comprised of:

Air Force Intelligence

Army Intelligence

Central Intelligence Agency

Coast Guard Intelligence

Defense Intelligence Agency

Department of Energy

Department of Homeland Security

Department of State

Department of the Treasury

Drug Enforcement Administration

Federal Bureau of Investigation

Marine Corps Intelligence

National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency

National Reconnaissance Office

National Security Agency

Navy Intelligence

(list here: https://www.dni.gov/index.php/intelligence-community/members-of-the-ic)

Wait, no, .gov sites are biased. :-/

[yuna628 9,528]

I haven't an honest clue what the OP is referencing. Even on conservative websites talking about this subject gives a pretty clear indication of who did it and how it was done. He received a clever phishing email alarming him to something regarding his account, and like the numerous stupid millions of individuals a year he clicked on the 'instructive link', he then typed in his user details into the phished account page, giving the Russians exactly what they were looking for. He was not the only individual targeted in this way. There's more in-depth information about how they did, how long they'd been plotting to do it, and other ways they attempted to maneuver in... but I guess this isn't the answer the OP is looking for.

[Rob L 3,811]

Let me get this straight. The Democrats run around telling us the Ruskies are out to get us without a shred of evidence and it is my responsibility to disprove their delusional conspiracy theory?

Shred of evidence...lots shreds....Proof? Proof is improbable. I doubt that this statement will hold water for you though...DHS is just as crooked as Hillary. And they are probably delusional and paranoid...but not stupid.

Stupid would be to reveal what evidence of a cyber breaches you had, because that would in turn reveal to potential hackers what tools we are currently using ,and with what maturity you are deploying them. The hackers know what they tried and what tracks they felt they left. If our government reveals the evidence, they destroy that tools capability and alert the hackers to avoid that trap in the future.

Joint Statement from the Department Of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security

Release Date:

October 7, 2016

For Immediate Release

DHS Press Office

Contact: 202-282-8010

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Some states have also recently seen scanning and probing of their election-related systems, which in most cases originated from servers operated by a Russian company. However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.

Nevertheless, DHS continues to urge state and local election officials to be vigilant and seek cybersecurity assistance from DHS. A number of states have already done so. DHS is providing several services to state and local election officials to assist in their cybersecurity. These services include cyber “hygiene” scans of Internet-facing systems, risk and vulnerability assessments, information sharing about cyber incidents, and best practices for securing voter registration databases and addressing potential cyber threats. DHS has convened an Election Infrastructure Cybersecurity Working Group with experts across all levels of government to raise awareness of cybersecurity risks potentially affecting election infrastructure and the elections process. Secretary Johnson and DHS officials are working directly with the National Association of Secretaries of State to offer assistance, share information, and provide additional resources to state and local officials

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national

Department of Homeland Security and the United States Intelligence Committee ("USIC") which is comprised of:

Air Force Intelligence

Army Intelligence

Central Intelligence Agency

Coast Guard Intelligence

Defense Intelligence Agency

Department of Energy

Department of Homeland Security

Department of State

Department of the Treasury

Drug Enforcement Administration

Federal Bureau of Investigation

Marine Corps Intelligence

National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency

National Reconnaissance Office

National Security Agency

Navy Intelligence

(list here: https://www.dni.gov/index.php/intelligence-community/members-of-the-ic)

Wait, no, .gov sites are biased. :-/

I count 16. Did the dept of energy and the DEA blame it on the Russians ? Edited October 25, 2016 by Nature Boy Flair