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There are many topics here at VisaJourney discussing the tax advantages of choosing a Married Filing Jointly (MFJ) status when submitting your Federal tax return. Choosing MFJ status could end up saving you over $1,000 in taxes. For information on whether you're qualified for MFJ, simply search the former topics.

In brief, even if your spouse is still living abroad while you are waiting for your CR-1/IR-1 application to be approved, you still probably qualify for MFJ status.

This post, however, is about something else...

When you do your taxes this year, for 2015, make sure you fully investigate if you qualify for the tax credit defined for form 8880 - Credit for Qualified Retirement Savings Contributions

If you contribute to a 401(k), an IRA, a corporate or government qualified pension, then you may very well qualify for this tax credit which could save you about $200 to $1,000 on your taxes. If you've been contributing to a retirement account and have never heard of this credit, it's probably because you've been filing as Single. The threshold for a Single filer qualifying for this credit is around $30,000 of taxable income. If you make more than this, you don't qualify.

The catch here is that as soon as you file MFJ, the threshold rises to $61,000. If your taxable income is under $61k, and you contribute to a retirement account, then you should definitely go through the form 8880 exercise.

You see? There are advantages to being married. :dancing:

Marriage: 2014-02-23 - Colombia    ROC interview/completed: 2018-08-16 - Albuquerque
CR1 started : 2014-06-06           N400 started: 2018-04-24
CR1 completed/POE : 2015-07-13     N400 interview: 2018-08-16 - Albuquerque
ROC started : 2017-04-14 CSC     Oath ceremony: 2018-09-24 – Santa Fe

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There are many topics here at VisaJourney discussing the tax advantages of choosing a Married Filing Jointly (MFJ) status when submitting your Federal tax return. Choosing MFJ status could end up saving you over $1,000 in taxes. For information on whether you're qualified for MFJ, simply search the former topics.

In brief, even if your spouse is still living abroad while you are waiting for your CR-1/IR-1 application to be approved, you still probably qualify for MFJ status.

This post, however, is about something else...

When you do your taxes this year, for 2015, make sure you fully investigate if you qualify for the tax credit defined for form 8880 - Credit for Qualified Retirement Savings Contributions

If you contribute to a 401(k), an IRA, a corporate or government qualified pension, then you may very well qualify for this tax credit which could save you about $200 to $1,000 on your taxes. If you've been contributing to a retirement account and have never heard of this credit, it's probably because you've been filing as Single. The threshold for a Single filer qualifying for this credit is around $30,000 of taxable income. If you make more than this, you don't qualify.

The catch here is that as soon as you file MFJ, the threshold rises to $61,000. If your taxable income is under $61k, and you contribute to a retirement account, then you should definitely go through the form 8880 exercise.

You see? There are advantages to being married. :dancing:

But the ITIN still needed for MFJ right?

in other words there is no way to file MFJ without SSN or ITIN.

CR-1 VISA

STAGE 1: USCIS

CALIFORNIA SERVICE CENTER US EMBASSY BOGOTA

09-08-2015 Express mailed my I-130 package to Chicago Lock-box.

09-11-2015 Received NOA1 via email with a PD of 09-09-2015

09-19-2015 Received I-797C via snail mail. (NOA1)

10-21-2015 My wife came to visit me on a B1/B2. No problems at POE Miami :P

11-04-2015 Received NOA2 via email. (56 days after NOA1)

11-08-2015 My wife ends visit and returns to Colombia to wait for interview :(

11-09-2015 Received I-797 via snail mail. (NOA2)

STAGE 2: NVC

11-16-2015 NVC received our case,(12 days after NOA2).

12-07-2015 Emailed inquiry to NVC to inform them my email. http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/contact.html

12-08-2015 NVC assigned case and invoice ID number,(34 days after NOA2) Case was assigned after 13:00 PM. I called at 12:30 then at 19:00 PM

12-08-2015 Completed Choice of Agent DS-261

12-09-2015 Received 2 emails with Welcome Letters for my wife and I, they were sent by ASKnvc@state.gov

12-09-2015 AOS bill became available and I paid it. (IN PROCESS)

12-12-2015 Mailed AOS and IV packages.

12-14-2015 Received via email IV bill from ASKnvc@state.gov and paid the IV fee.

12-14-2015 AOS fee updated to PAID

12-15-2015 USPS tracking shows AOS/IV packages were delivered to NVC. Waiting for a SCAN date.

12-16-2015 IV fee updated to PAID and completed DS-260

12-19-2015 Scan Date (45 days after NOA2). I called on 01-13-16 and I was told my scan date is 12-15-15????

01-26-2016 Case complete. (83 days after NOA2)

01-29-2016 Called NVC, I was informed my CO Interview will be on 03-01-2016 at 08:00.

02-02-2016 Received Interview Letter (P4) via email.

02-09-2016 Package picked-up by DHL at 15:29 Waybill 5992952011. CEAC status "IN TRANSIT"

STAGE 3: US Embassy Bogota

02-11-2016 US Embassy Bogota received my package at 10:39.

02-12-2016 CEAC Visa Status changed from "IN TRANSIT" to "READY"

02-24-2016 Lab exams at the clinic and Bio-metrics at the CAS center.

02-25-2016 Medical Exams.

03-01-2016 Interview Date (175 days after I mailed I-130) VISA APPROVED. CEAC status changed to AP

03-02-2016 Paid Immigrant Visa Fee via ELIS account. CEAC status changed to ISSUED

03-03-2016 US Embassy Bogota sends Passport and Visa package via DHL Waybill 2900131780 to Cali.

03-04-2016 My wife picked up at DHL sealed approved IV package and her passport with a stamped I-551 IV Category CR1.

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My understanding is that you can file MFJ without SSN or ITIN, but the IRS will process it as MFS. This will usually yield a lower refund than if it's processed as MFJ. Once you receive an SSN or ITIN, you can submit an amended return and the IRS will process it as MFJ and send the net balance refund btwn MFJ and MFS.

Others on this forum claim you can submit the return as MFJ along with ITIN application and you will be processed as MFJ and receive an ITIN at the same time. But I spoke directly with an IRS representative who stated my spouse was not eligible for an ITIN, only an SSN.

The other approach is to file an extension and then file the return once you receive the SSN.

Marriage: 2014-02-23 - Colombia    ROC interview/completed: 2018-08-16 - Albuquerque
CR1 started : 2014-06-06           N400 started: 2018-04-24
CR1 completed/POE : 2015-07-13     N400 interview: 2018-08-16 - Albuquerque
ROC started : 2017-04-14 CSC     Oath ceremony: 2018-09-24 – Santa Fe

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Hi Russ,

I did find something interesting on 2015 Pub 17 for MFS with NRA spouse ans still getting the spouse exemption. I am taking advantage of it.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/583970-case-complete-to-interview-march-2016/?p=7996153

CR-1 VISA

STAGE 1: USCIS

CALIFORNIA SERVICE CENTER US EMBASSY BOGOTA

09-08-2015 Express mailed my I-130 package to Chicago Lock-box.

09-11-2015 Received NOA1 via email with a PD of 09-09-2015

09-19-2015 Received I-797C via snail mail. (NOA1)

10-21-2015 My wife came to visit me on a B1/B2. No problems at POE Miami :P

11-04-2015 Received NOA2 via email. (56 days after NOA1)

11-08-2015 My wife ends visit and returns to Colombia to wait for interview :(

11-09-2015 Received I-797 via snail mail. (NOA2)

STAGE 2: NVC

11-16-2015 NVC received our case,(12 days after NOA2).

12-07-2015 Emailed inquiry to NVC to inform them my email. http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/contact.html

12-08-2015 NVC assigned case and invoice ID number,(34 days after NOA2) Case was assigned after 13:00 PM. I called at 12:30 then at 19:00 PM

12-08-2015 Completed Choice of Agent DS-261

12-09-2015 Received 2 emails with Welcome Letters for my wife and I, they were sent by ASKnvc@state.gov

12-09-2015 AOS bill became available and I paid it. (IN PROCESS)

12-12-2015 Mailed AOS and IV packages.

12-14-2015 Received via email IV bill from ASKnvc@state.gov and paid the IV fee.

12-14-2015 AOS fee updated to PAID

12-15-2015 USPS tracking shows AOS/IV packages were delivered to NVC. Waiting for a SCAN date.

12-16-2015 IV fee updated to PAID and completed DS-260

12-19-2015 Scan Date (45 days after NOA2). I called on 01-13-16 and I was told my scan date is 12-15-15????

01-26-2016 Case complete. (83 days after NOA2)

01-29-2016 Called NVC, I was informed my CO Interview will be on 03-01-2016 at 08:00.

02-02-2016 Received Interview Letter (P4) via email.

02-09-2016 Package picked-up by DHL at 15:29 Waybill 5992952011. CEAC status "IN TRANSIT"

STAGE 3: US Embassy Bogota

02-11-2016 US Embassy Bogota received my package at 10:39.

02-12-2016 CEAC Visa Status changed from "IN TRANSIT" to "READY"

02-24-2016 Lab exams at the clinic and Bio-metrics at the CAS center.

02-25-2016 Medical Exams.

03-01-2016 Interview Date (175 days after I mailed I-130) VISA APPROVED. CEAC status changed to AP

03-02-2016 Paid Immigrant Visa Fee via ELIS account. CEAC status changed to ISSUED

03-03-2016 US Embassy Bogota sends Passport and Visa package via DHL Waybill 2900131780 to Cali.

03-04-2016 My wife picked up at DHL sealed approved IV package and her passport with a stamped I-551 IV Category CR1.

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My understanding is that you can file MFJ without SSN or ITIN, but the IRS will process it as MFS. This will usually yield a lower refund than if it's processed as MFJ. Once you receive an SSN or ITIN, you can submit an amended return and the IRS will process it as MFJ and send the net balance refund btwn MFJ and MFS.

Others on this forum claim you can submit the return as MFJ along with ITIN application and you will be processed as MFJ and receive an ITIN at the same time. But I spoke directly with an IRS representative who stated my spouse was not eligible for an ITIN, only an SSN.

The other approach is to file an extension and then file the return once you receive the SSN.

Russ--

You can get an ITIN for your wife. The agent you spoke to was wrong.

See on this page https://www.irs.gov/Individuals/General-ITIN-Information

Who needs an ITIN?

IRS issues ITINs to foreign nationals and others who have federal tax reporting or filing requirements and do not qualify for SSNs. A non-resident alien individual not eligible for a SSN who is required to file a U.S. tax return only to claim a refund of tax under the provisions of a U.S. tax treaty needs an ITIN.

Other examples of individuals who need ITINs include:

A nonresident alien required to file a U.S. tax return

A U.S. resident alien (based on days present in the United States) filing a U.S. tax return

A dependent or spouse of a U.S. citizen/resident alien

A dependent or spouse of a nonresident alien visa holder

But obtaining one is not as simple as filling out a form. Very strict documentation from your wife must accompany the application. Example is her actual passport, not just a photocopy.

So the combined filing/ITIN application goes like this--

Complete joint tax return, leaving her SSN entry blank

Mail to her to sign.

She mails back the signed tax return and signed W7 application for ITIN and her identity proof

You mail all of it to an IRS address in Austin, TX

They process the ITIN first, write it in on your tax return, then your tax return goes to processing.

You can go to an IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center and have her passport verified and given back to you so it doesn't have to be mailed off to Austin. There are also various places abroad who can certify her ID document so she doesn't have to mail it to you. Some are private acceptance agents, or an embassy...it varies by country so what one person posts may not be true for her country.

Here's a page discussing acceptance agents abroad if anyone wants to research it https://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Acceptance-Agent-Program

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