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So my spouse and I will be filing roc for me soon. I am the beneficiary. We both started a mutual fund/roth IRA last year August with each other as beneficiaries. However my spouse closed her IRA this month because she needed the funds. I still have my IRA running as always. We originally thinking of including our mutual funds statements as part of the roc package but my spouse forgot about that lol. Now my question is, is it worth it to still include my mutual fund alone with my spouse as beneficiary or omit including my mutual fund?

We also have another joint brokerage account where my spouse pulled out half the money that she put in but its still active with all the money I put in so its not closed. Can we include this?

We have lot of other joint evidence such as joint bank account so I'm not worried. I just figured I'd ask you brainy peeps if my mutual fund and our joint brokerage account with mostly my money is worth including as joint assets still in the roc package.

Thanks friends.

I hope I tagged this in the right place under removal of conditions.

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Pitaya Grand Master

Pitaya   2,576

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Include ALL joint account information.

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The advise given is complete, send copies of statements for all joint accounts.

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Yes, it is worth it to still include your IRA info and showing your spouse as beneficiary. Joint accounts and other types of accounts, including insurance, that list the spouse as a beneficiary can be helpful to show your co-mingling of finances and lives. Even if you have accounts such as credit cards that are not joint, but you have listed the spouse as an authorized user can help. Just show proof.

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

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NikLR Grand Master

NikLR   13,220

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If someone is the beneficiary of something, then yes it makes sense to send it. In a way that is a joint account, in the way that a will, or MPOA, etc is a joint account, which is what I meant. Sending accounts where one person owns something and the other person has nothing to do with it is pointless. (Example: you have a credit card, your spouse is not a joint holder or authorized user. Pointless to send.) The exception to that is if each person has their own account for utilities that is handy to send (one person has the cable bill and the other the garbage bill for example) but then both bills are going to a home you both reside in.


Hi,

The advice given was not complete.

You can send in the IRA paperwork. Beyond JOINT ACCOUNTS, you can send in any INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS where you list each other as a beneficiary.

Best of luck.

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In no way is an INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT "in a way . . . a JOINT ACCOUNT." No accountant or lawyer would support your position.

You came off as snotty telling the OP that your advice is complete and now you rationalize it because you can't admit you were wrong.

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NikLR Grand Master

NikLR   13,220

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My advice wasn't complete. I never said it was. I said the other advice was complete? Reading comprehension?

I get what you're saying.

I should have noted it differently.

I'm sorry for not noting it differently and seeing it a different way. It is not the first time I've been accused of seeing things my own way to make sure it makes sense, and likely won't be the last. But if it doesn't to anyone else, again, I apologize.


In no way is an INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT "in a way . . . a JOINT ACCOUNT." No accountant or lawyer would support your position.

You came off as snotty telling the OP that your advice is complete and now you rationalize it because you can't admit you were wrong.


Also to note, you're coming off as attacking.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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aaron2020   11,651

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My advice wasn't complete. I never said it was. I said the other advice was complete? Reading comprehension?

I get what you're saying.

I should have noted it differently.

I'm sorry for not noting it differently and seeing it a different way. It is not the first time I've been accused of seeing things my own way to make sure it makes sense, and likely won't be the last. But if it doesn't to anyone else, again, I apologize.

Also to note, you're coming off as attacking.

Reading comprehension? Never said the advice was complete? Read your own posts.

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Stop the bickering, please.

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