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So adoption must be different in the Philippines because all of a sudden my wife is wanting to adopt a child who will be born next month who is going to be a boy. Why it is last second? Because her sister had been set up to adopt it but just found out it's a boy and she wants a girl. So I have done no research, I have no idea how long an adoption will take for the child to be able to come here, no idea the cost I would guess the child would get some kind of AOS once it's legally my child. Has anyone went through this. Is it common people selling their kids for a couple hundred dollars?

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No it is not common to sell a kid for a couple hundred of dollars.

What is the person having the kid come from a squatter area?

Not sure where she is from, she doesn't want her parents to know. She is living and working in Manila currently. With abortion being more of a no no there I figured this was fairly common.

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So adoption must be different in the Philippines because all of a sudden my wife is wanting to adopt a child who will be born next month who is going to be a boy. Why it is last second? Because her sister had been set up to adopt it but just found out it's a boy and she wants a girl. So I have done no research, I have no idea how long an adoption will take for the child to be able to come here, no idea the cost I would guess the child would get some kind of AOS once it's legally my child. Has anyone went through this. Is it common people selling their kids for a couple hundred dollars?

Uh. No. Immigration does not work that way.

Adoption is one thing. Getting an immigration visa for the child is something else.

You would need to live with the child in the Philippines for two years before you can bring your adopt d child to the U.S.

Without meeting the 2 years requirement for a non-Hague adoption, the U.S. Embassy can not issue anything to the child.

You may want to investigate this before adopting a child you can not bring to the U.S.

Furthermore, one of the key problems with international adoption is baby buying. There are safeguards to prevent this. Don't become a human trafficer.

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http://travel.state.gov/content/adoptionsabroad/en/us-visa-for-your-child/immigrant-visa-process.html

Because adoption laws vary from country to country, it is sometimes possible to adopt a child abroad who does not qualify for immigration under U.S. law; such children cannot immigrate to the United States.

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Uh. No. Immigration does not work that way.

Adoption is one thing. Getting an immigration visa for the child is something else.

You would need to live with the child in the Philippines for two years before you can bring your adopt d child to the U.S.

Without meeting the 2 years requirement for a non-Hague adoption, the U.S. Embassy can not issue anything to the child.

You may want to investigate this before adopting a child you can not bring to the U.S.

Furthermore, one of the key problems with international adoption is baby buying. There are safeguards to prevent this. Don't become a human trafficer.

This is how I understand the law on adoption works in the Philippines

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So adoption must be different in the Philippines because all of a sudden my wife is wanting to adopt a child who will be born next month who is going to be a boy. Why it is last second? Because her sister had been set up to adopt it but just found out it's a boy and she wants a girl. So I have done no research, I have no idea how long an adoption will take for the child to be able to come here, no idea the cost I would guess the child would get some kind of AOS once it's legally my child. Has anyone went through this. Is it common people selling their kids for a couple hundred dollars?

Your going to your homework and I will give you some websites to read. This is going to be a 5 year process if not more. Is she ready for this? Are you ready for this?

http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwhadop.html

http://tagaloglang.com/The-Philippines/Government/how-to-adopt-a-filipino-child.html

http://travel.state.gov/content/adoptionsabroad/en/country-information.html


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What ? People selling their kids ? Can you word this differently, it really does not sound right.

Here are links about adoption http://deborjalaw.com/2009/02/17/adoption-in-the-philippines/

Consult a lawyer on International adoption http://law-usimmigration.com/

USCIS info on adoption http://www.uscis.gov/adoption

Former thread discussion http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/531798-adopting-niece-from-philippines/


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I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Uh. No. Immigration does not work that way.

Adoption is one thing. Getting an immigration visa for the child is something else.

You would need to live with the child in the Philippines for two years before you can bring your adopt d child to the U.S.

Without meeting the 2 years requirement for a non-Hague adoption, the U.S. Embassy can not issue anything to the child.

You may want to investigate this before adopting a child you can not bring to the U.S.

Furthermore, one of the key problems with international adoption is baby buying. There are safeguards to prevent this. Don't become a human trafficer.

I don't consider that human trafficking. There must be a way to get an agency to do it or something. It's obviously in the best interest for the child. I guess I have some research to do. I will check in to see if I can do this Hague thing with a child I have arranged.

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Not sure where she is from, she doesn't want her parents to know. She is living and working in Manila currently.

This is very common.

Girl from province goes to Manila for work, a few months later said girl is pregnant.

Seen it many many times......

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I don't consider that human trafficking. There must be a way to get an agency to do it or something. It's obviously in the best interest for the child. I guess I have some research to do. I will check in to see if I can do this Hague thing with a child I have arranged.

You may not consider it human trafficking, but the Philippines and the U.S. governments do.

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As an aside I know there are plenty of children needing adoption in the US.


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What ? People selling their kids ? Can you word this differently, it really does not sound right.

Here are links about adoption http://deborjalaw.com/2009/02/17/adoption-in-the-philippines/

Consult a lawyer on International adoption http://law-usimmigration.com/

USCIS info on adoption http://www.uscis.gov/adoption

Former thread discussion http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/531798-adopting-niece-from-philippines/

It is what it is, who cares about "political correctness" ... people DO sell their children... HARD reality.


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It is what it is, who cares about "political correctness" ... people DO sell their children... HARD reality.

With all due respect, the OP posted that his wife wants to adopt a baby because the sister who was supposed to adopt it wants

a girl and not a boy, then ends with " is it common to sell kids for a couple hundred bucks."

It could easily be misread for something sinister such as child trafficking, all in the same post.

Of course it's a hard reality, I didn't fall off the turnip wagon just yesterday. I didn't ask him to be politically correct, it reads like

his wife is paying a couple hundred bucks for the child and thinks she can bring it here.

Weird context if you ask me without missing a beat.


Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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With all due respect, the OP posted that his wife wants to adopt a baby because the sister who was supposed to adopt it wants

a girl and not a boy, then ends with " is it common to sell kids for a couple hundred bucks."

It could easily be misread for something sinister such as child trafficking, all in the same post.

Of course it's a hard reality, I didn't fall off the turnip wagon just yesterday. I didn't ask him to be politically correct, it reads like

his wife is paying a couple hundred bucks for the child and thinks she can bring it here.

Weird context if you ask me without missing a beat.

I could care less about politically correct. The girl who is having the kid wants $500, I don't think there is anything wrong with that. People pay that much for an abortion, why can't you pay to keep a kid alive? I've done some research and the only spot I'm stuck on is already having a child in mind, the agencies are set up to match you with a child. Otherwise it's a pretty straight forward simple process, get approved to adopt a child in the U.S. and then adopt one in the other country. Pretty much the only additional thing is going through the approval here which should't be too hard. There's a chance we might just pay for my wife's parents to raise the child, all the info came on very sudden. I'm trying to sort it out still.

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